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Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
January 18 2012 01:09 GMT
#581
On January 18 2012 07:56 desRow wrote:
I talked with sleep and he doesn't want 1500$ a month it was a misunderstanding with fnatic TT only wants travel


Hmm sad if many people think badly of him cause of this misunderstanding
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
RedBack
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia102 Posts
January 18 2012 01:09 GMT
#582
On January 18 2012 09:56 ninjamyst wrote:
Xeris need to man up and make a public apology to the players and to the community...



jesus.....

well someone needs to man up......
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
January 18 2012 01:10 GMT
#583
On January 18 2012 09:59 JoeAWESOME wrote:
Fnatic.Golden?
You can only guess...

It feels like Koreans who join foreigner teams is looking for a short term solution and have this image of foreigner players being wealthy and rich. As Xeris said earlier. 3k per month is something SangHo(Killer) thinks that he can get and he's not worth that much....


Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 07:56 desRow wrote:
I talked with sleep and he doesn't want 1500$ a month it was a misunderstanding with fnatic TT only wants travel


Glad that you could clear that out!


What? I am sorry but results wise in the GSL Killer is as worth as Huk(of course results are only 1 part of everything) but seriously if a team wants a pretty good and solid P SangHo is pretty much a pretty good deal. Especially if Huk earns"a life changing" amount of money.

I am not saying that Xeris decision was bad, after all a lot more stuff goes into choosing players than results unfortunately, but Killer as a player is pretty valuable.

People seem to forget that even with the old system just staying in Code S made you a pretty good player overall.Hell, even qualifying for Code A makes you pretty skilled overall.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 01:12:04
January 18 2012 01:11 GMT
#584
On January 18 2012 10:06 iSometric wrote:
Maybe TL could pick up one of them.

I could see Draon being a memeber of TL, not so much Golden. However, I don't see TL picking anyone up anytime soon.
"let your freak flag fly"
gosu86
Profile Joined June 2011
208 Posts
January 18 2012 01:12 GMT
#585
On January 18 2012 10:09 RedBack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2012 09:56 ninjamyst wrote:
Xeris need to man up and make a public apology to the players and to the community...



jesus.....

well someone needs to man up......


not the first time that's for sure
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 18 2012 01:13 GMT
#586
On January 17 2012 17:09 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
You also need to realize that is just pure salary, that doesn't include travel, accommodations, registration or anything else.


Don't teams usually cover that shit?

I am not 100% sure what your side is on this. But yes teams usually cover that shit and they have to take that into consideration when they recruit players. That means that travel, looging at events and so on, is a "benefit" and part of the players wager as well. Just like parking space, lunch, Insurance at jobs are often seen"benefits".
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 18 2012 01:13 GMT
#587
good luck to both these guys!
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Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
January 18 2012 01:15 GMT
#588
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Liquid JUST picked up Zenio.... that won't happen.
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
January 18 2012 01:15 GMT
#589
The real question is are all the foreign teams going to be koreans?
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
January 18 2012 01:16 GMT
#590
Also I wonder if many kids got their hopes crushed after they learned so much about salaries.

As with everything only the rich get richer :\
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
tranquilizer
Profile Joined July 2011
United States66 Posts
January 18 2012 01:18 GMT
#591
Good players, great potential

GL in future!
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striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
January 18 2012 01:30 GMT
#592
the reason many leave is because they can't compete within their own house to be top dog, so they learn what they can and move on to grow. just like hero
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
January 18 2012 01:40 GMT
#593
On January 17 2012 09:43 Kennigit wrote:
Because when sleep says to Fnatic, "this is the rate im looking for" he doesn't expect it to be public. The same when i go to a sponsor for TSL and give them a number, i don't expect them to write a blog saying "well kennigit asked me for X but i didn't see the value in it"....I may have been able to get that amount from a competitor but now it's public that another company decided it wasn't worth it - that absolutely has an impact on their evaluation (because they know i cant bid them against each other). When EG signs a sponsor they dont release a statement saying "we were looking for $X and we managed to find a deal with Y".

If Quantic wants to get Sleep tomorrow, they now know that (for whatever reasons) Sleep wasn't worth 1500 to Fnatic. They are announcing a new player so the situation at best is the same (depending when that discussion took place, because their budget is similar). I may not know what other teams are making bids on Sleep, but i know past a certain point it's very likely not to be fnatic. Thats bad.



Yeah some things you really don't discuss openly ;\ I have to agree with sir Kennigit here
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tianinja
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
January 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#594
slayers' zergs leave? awk. i see slayers more as a terran focused team hence boxer, mma, ryung, ganzi, etc,etc
Troxle
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States486 Posts
January 18 2012 01:44 GMT
#595
Was there a reason for leaving SlayerS? Especially on Dragon's end seeing as SlayerS is known for having exceptional Terran players. Best of luck to both though, hopefully we will start seeing results from Golden and maybe see Dragon to start hitting the scene other than ladder/streaming (if he has, it hasn't been a very big splash yet...hopefully he doesn't pull a oGsFin and raise expectations only to fall very, very short).
If you're homophobic, you're probably ugly, so don't worry about a gay guy coming onto you. - jarrydesque
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 18 2012 01:51 GMT
#596
GL to Golden and Dragon, should have no problem finding a foreign team to pick them up
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
January 18 2012 01:52 GMT
#597
Gosh I can't believe how(it seems) many people had such unrealistic expectations for salaries in e sports, especially for the little guys.

And well regardless of how much you think a player should earn there is limited money to go around in any industry and the only way to increase that amount is if more money gets invested into it. And considering how many people are not willing to pay 10 dollars a month for a tournament or how many people whined about SotG charging for optional subscriptions I don't see stuff changing soon.(Before anyone says how it is sponsors the ones that support everything, purchasing power has a lot to do with how much they want to invest).

Players may not earn much, but thet get what they get. The industry, if it wants to stay healthy, needs to live within its own means.

Why am I sounding kinda bitter about this?(I am not) I just remembered a pretty funny story when I was arguing about this kind of stuff on a SC2 forum and one guy insulted me and said idra earned more than both of my parents which kinda offended me but I found it funny how high the expectations are.But seriously, I don't know how much idra earns, but that comment kinda hurt
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
January 18 2012 01:58 GMT
#598
On January 16 2012 16:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 16:35 Seeker wrote:
Oh come on...... why would anyone in their right mind leave SlayerS!!! >:[

None the less....

GOOD LUCK GOLDEN!!!

LighT or Liquid should pick him up :D


Seems like many Koreans have illusions of grandeur on how much they are worth to foreign teams and leave because of that.

I hope this is not the case here and he just wants to be part of the foreign scene, but who knows.


Its kind of true, look at hero and puma, neither are actually top Korean pros. The ONLY reason they are popular is that they are on non Korean Teams who can afford to send them to tournaments that the actually good players aren't at.
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
January 18 2012 02:12 GMT
#599
Well Dragon, I watched you back before you were very popular

I wish you the best of luck finding a team. You have a nice skill set and I think you'd be awesome to see in tournaments. You'd definitely be helping your team and you'd be awesome to watch in team leagues such as the GSTL, IPL TAC, NASTL, etc. I hope you keep streaming and you get a new team you like as much as SlayerS
Sublimexx
Profile Joined December 2011
Great Britain23 Posts
January 18 2012 02:14 GMT
#600
Just to note that Dragon left SlayerS not to join another team, he is taking time off for school and work related leave.
"If you are a fan GREAT I want to hear that, if you aren't a fan why would I care that you say that specifically? In fact I care less..right?" - The always classy, iNcontroL
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