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On January 15 2012 02:52 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 02:45 Shiori wrote:On January 15 2012 02:36 -_- wrote:On January 15 2012 02:14 esaul17 wrote:On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O
Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.  if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel. Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/ Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones. I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though. How is HuK very interested? He said in an interview when first joining EG that he didn't care if anyone knew what he made but would refrain from telling because EG and TL may not appreciate that. It doesn't hurt HuK any for people to believe he is worth a lot of money. He just seems to be clearing up a mistake. Also, do we have verification that that is HuK? MC and Huk are both great players. However, it's pretty clear that MC is both the more accomplished player, and the player who's doing better at Starcraft 2 at the moment. He just won HSCIV, and he's currently in Code S. Additionally, he's one of the best showmen in the sport, so we're not dealing with an antisocial prodigy here. So, if Huk were really making 10 times as much as MC, many people would say MC is getting too little or Huk is getting too much. At least in my opinion, having threads talking about Huk and MC's relative worth would not be beneficial for Huk. Again, I'm more inclined to trust anonymous sources over known professionals and casters when it comes the business of SC2. But please don't think I'm going to scream at you to convert you to my point of view, or that I'm talking down to you in any way. I'm an anonymous source with no knowledge. MC currently makes 1 billion dollars a day. Believe me, because I'm anonymous and disinterested. Excellent point. Anonymous sources can say whatever they want with no consequences, and can make stories up to amuse themselves or cause trouble. So, you need to look 1) at whether what the source say is plausible and rings true, 2) whether they have a proven track record, and 3) if what they say is backed up by other members of the community or if parts of their stories can be compared to known facts. You're correct in suggesting that I can't know certainly whether the source is telling the truth, but you can hardly ever be sure of anything.
So why wouldn't you believe Huk, then? He isn't MC and he probably actually does have the knowledge. The only sorts of people likely to know about players salaries are people involved in the industry, which you seem to have decided are automatically biased and therefore not trustworthy.
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On January 15 2012 02:45 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 02:36 -_- wrote:On January 15 2012 02:14 esaul17 wrote:On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O
Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is. if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel. Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/ Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones. I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though. How is HuK very interested? He said in an interview when first joining EG that he didn't care if anyone knew what he made but would refrain from telling because EG and TL may not appreciate that. It doesn't hurt HuK any for people to believe he is worth a lot of money. He just seems to be clearing up a mistake. Also, do we have verification that that is HuK? MC and Huk are both great players. However, it's pretty clear that MC is both the more accomplished player, and the player who's doing better at Starcraft 2 at the moment. He just won HSCIV, and he's currently in Code S. Additionally, he's one of the best showmen in the sport, so we're not dealing with an antisocial prodigy here. So, if Huk were really making 10 times as much as MC, many people would say MC is getting too little or Huk is getting too much. At least in my opinion, having threads talking about Huk and MC's relative worth would not be beneficial for Huk. Again, I'm more inclined to trust anonymous sources over known professionals and casters when it comes the business of SC2. But please don't think I'm going to scream at you to convert you to my point of view, or that I'm talking down to you in any way. I'm an anonymous source with no knowledge. MC currently makes 1 billion dollars a day. Believe me, because I'm anonymous and disinterested.
That source has a history of leaking informations that turned out true. Also, its in Huks best interest to deny those claims.
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MC's salary is somewhere between 6k and 8k (dollars) per month. Insider sk info. can't paste chatlogs though since I will probably be in some trouble. So unless HUK Gets 70k dollars per month, i'd say that source is maybe for the first time false
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On January 15 2012 03:09 Holdinga wrote:
MC's salary is somewhere between 6k and 8k (dollars) per month. Insider sk info. can't paste chatlogs though since I will probably be in some trouble. So unless HUK Gets 70k dollars per month, i'd say that source is maybe for the first time false
that's some major $$$ per month. does he get taxed?
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On January 15 2012 01:41 PR4Y wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 01:20 SeaSwift wrote:
With only 5 GSLs per year, it hardly seems worth it to stay in Korea, even if it does make you more skilled over all.
It's a real shame. I really hope BW players switch over, and the scene follows. Otherwise it looks like we may end up with the Korean scene wilting. LOL is this a troll? The KOREAN scene wilting? You MUST be high bro, cause that's simply wrong. The Korean starcraft scene isn't going anywhere, ever. I'd expect every other nation in the world to completely forget about starcraft and not even know of it's existence before the Koreans even decide to drop it from National Television. And about the "with only 5 GSLs per year" bit... It's the single most prestigious tournament in the WORLD and has more tournaments then any other "major" tournament system (MLG, DH, NASL, IEM, ect.). Words can't express how wrong your post is... Just. Wrong.
Calm down. Stop trying to score points by proving people on the Internet wrong, you don't gain anything from it. I was talking about Starcraft 2, not BW.
GOM already appears to be tightening up, giving out far less prize money this year than they were last year. If BW players don't switch, and sponsors with them, SC2 in Korea won't get the boost it needs. The scene could stagnate, and as is it is already far more cost-efficient to play in foreign tourneys rather than Korean ones. If a lot of Koreans move outside of Korea to get more money, the overall level of play will go down outside of Korea but the GSL will still be really hard to win, perpetuating the shift.
Of course, it's pure speculation, and based on a number of assumptions that other factors won't affect it. But that does not merit your response.
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On January 15 2012 03:14 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 03:09 Holdinga wrote:
MC's salary is somewhere between 6k and 8k (dollars) per month. Insider sk info. can't paste chatlogs though since I will probably be in some trouble. So unless HUK Gets 70k dollars per month, i'd say that source is maybe for the first time false that's some major $$$ per month. does he get taxed?
I dont know other details. All im just saying is that MC obviously got offered "Life changing" money, just like huk was saying when he moved from liquid to EG, and that's why he decided to switch teams
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hope MC is able to keep his play in shape... doubt it though, these solo runs haven't really worked well, have they?
also, team SK vs team grubby best of 11 allkill format googog!
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I have the feeling that the next player who is going to be approached by SK is going to be MKP. He has a similar marketability as MC and together they would boost the image of SK.
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awww crap and i just bought an EG gaming mousepad ... i was going to get SK cause their logo is cooler but they didn't have any players i liked!
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He will still play for oGs In GSL this season? , or they changed the roules for 2012?
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Oh...
This is really unexpected.
Congradulations I guess are in order?
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On January 15 2012 01:20 SeaSwift wrote:
I really hope BW players switch over, and the scene follows. Otherwise it looks like we may end up with the Korean scene wilting.
hope they don't. bw players should stay in bw. when i see flash & co. doing amazing shit with bw, at the same time i just can't see them doing that with an underdeveloped game like sc2.
bw is the reason i stay up till morning to watch proleagues or osl. i never did that or will do for gsl, it's just lackluster.
i do hope that in the following years sc2 can get patched up & completed (with all the expansions) that'll make it a worthy successor to brood war. so far, i look at sc2 as a random strategy game that just happens to carry the name of starcraft.
a bit more on topic, wow, sk pulled a big one here, really big move for them, but i wouldn't say the same for mc. hopefully that doesn't affect mc too much, since he's leaving the ogs house now. i wish the guy gets decent practice partners in the future and that this deal gets good for him as well.
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On January 15 2012 04:58 Excelle wrote:
He will still play for oGs In GSL this season? , or they changed the roules for 2012?
He's already moved out and no longer has anything to do with oGs.
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On January 15 2012 01:03 jellyjello wrote:
per thisisgame interview,
1) There are no issues with oGs team or its members.
2) MC says he wants to focus on foreign tournaments because there are only 5 GSLs this year.
3) He says his return to oGs is still possible down the road.
4) He is currently living in Seoul (not oGs team house) while preparing for his next GSL match. He doesn't think there will be any problems with his practice since he is in good repoire with other progamers (in my opinion, it will be mostly laddering though).
5) oGs coach is sad to see one of the founding members go, but wishes him all the luck. He also says he's concerned about how so many Korean progamers are eager to join foreign teams which could weaken the Korean SC2 pro scene.
Thank you for translation sir. Always best to hear from 1st parties rather than speculation. Why in your opinion will it be mostly ladder? I was looking at SC2ranks and MC is one of the most least laddering players... I feel bad for all these Korean teams who build these players losing them as well.
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On January 15 2012 03:50 amazingoopah wrote:
hope MC is able to keep his play in shape... doubt it though, these solo runs haven't really worked well, have they?
also, team SK vs team grubby best of 11 allkill format googog!
Noooo PvP.  Grubby seems to be getting better solo but that's perhaps an anonmoly rather than rule - like others I worry about the Protoss President.
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Damn...that i didn't expect...BUT gl both to him + SK and oGs!
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I think I'm saying this for the third time in this thread now: Leaving the ogs house will not effect his practice partners at all. It will not be mainly laddering now, in fact it's very possible that even on ogs a lot of this standard practice partners weren't even in ogs, right now in starcraft 2 team houses do not equal practice partners as they do in brood war as the focus is not on team leagues atm.
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On January 15 2012 04:27 EndoGaming wrote:
awww crap and i just bought an EG gaming mousepad ... i was going to get SK cause their logo is cooler but they didn't have any players i liked!
I just ordered the steelseries QCK+ SK edition 1 day before this was announced !
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