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Dexx
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany175 Posts
January 14 2012 16:14 GMT
#1581
On January 15 2012 01:00 Sanix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:42 Dexx wrote:
Some reasons:

1. Wanted to live for himself and oGs denied it since it is their strict policy that team members have to live in the team house.

2. Had some arguments with team mebers and did not get along well anymore.

3. Better support from SK for foreign tournaments.

4. A monthly income, while oGs did not pay at all (SK may pay German standards which is above South Korean level).

5. A friendship with Reis and general love for Germany. I know for a fact that Germany is in high regards in South Korea).


Where have you got this information from? Private source?

Sorry, not knowing for a fact. These were just my assumptions!
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 14 2012 16:20 GMT
#1582
With only 5 GSLs per year, it hardly seems worth it to stay in Korea, even if it does make you more skilled over all.

It's a real shame. I really hope BW players switch over, and the scene follows. Otherwise it looks like we may end up with the Korean scene wilting.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 14 2012 16:27 GMT
#1583
On January 15 2012 01:14 Dexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 01:00 Sanix wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:42 Dexx wrote:
Some reasons:

1. Wanted to live for himself and oGs denied it since it is their strict policy that team members have to live in the team house.

2. Had some arguments with team mebers and did not get along well anymore.

3. Better support from SK for foreign tournaments.

4. A monthly income, while oGs did not pay at all (SK may pay German standards which is above South Korean level).

5. A friendship with Reis and general love for Germany. I know for a fact that Germany is in high regards in South Korea).


Where have you got this information from? Private source?

Sorry, not knowing for a fact. These were just my assumptions!


I really doubt he can have trouble with other teammates. He's such a cool person in general.
scronaldo
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
January 14 2012 16:32 GMT
#1584
possibly the most shocking news I've ever read on TL headlines
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PR4Y
Profile Joined November 2010
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 16:42:08
January 14 2012 16:41 GMT
#1585
On January 15 2012 01:20 SeaSwift wrote:
With only 5 GSLs per year, it hardly seems worth it to stay in Korea, even if it does make you more skilled over all.

It's a real shame. I really hope BW players switch over, and the scene follows. Otherwise it looks like we may end up with the Korean scene wilting.



LOL is this a troll? The KOREAN scene wilting? You MUST be high bro, cause that's simply wrong. The Korean starcraft scene isn't going anywhere, ever. I'd expect every other nation in the world to completely forget about starcraft and not even know of it's existence before the Koreans even decide to drop it from National Television.

And about the "with only 5 GSLs per year" bit... It's the single most prestigious tournament in the WORLD and has more tournaments then any other "major" tournament system (MLG, DH, NASL, IEM, ect.).


Words can't express how wrong your post is... Just. Wrong.
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aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 14 2012 16:45 GMT
#1586
On January 15 2012 01:41 PR4Y wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 01:20 SeaSwift wrote:
With only 5 GSLs per year, it hardly seems worth it to stay in Korea, even if it does make you more skilled over all.

It's a real shame. I really hope BW players switch over, and the scene follows. Otherwise it looks like we may end up with the Korean scene wilting.



LOL is this a troll? The KOREAN scene wilting? You MUST be high bro, cause that's simply wrong. The Korean starcraft scene isn't going anywhere, ever. I'd expect every other nation in the world to completely forget about starcraft and not even know of it's existence before the Koreans even decide to drop it from National Television.

And about the "with only 5 GSLs per year" bit... It's the single most prestigious tournament in the WORLD and has more tournaments then any other "major" tournament system (MLG, DH, NASL, IEM, ect.).


Words can't express how wrong your post is... Just. Wrong.



I think he is talking about sc2, and from what i have gathered the sc2 scene is stronger outside of korea, at least if you look at sponsors etc....
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 16:46:47
January 14 2012 16:46 GMT
#1587
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/
Kmonx
Profile Joined October 2011
United States102 Posts
January 14 2012 16:58 GMT
#1588
Wow, I did not expect this to happen....
"Megapigs can fly, with Void Rays in the sky." - Day[9]
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
January 14 2012 17:00 GMT
#1589
On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/


Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones.

I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 14 2012 17:01 GMT
#1590
good luck MC, i'm pretty sure SK will support you as good as you expect. just hope you'll find enough practise partners and i hope SK will get more players.

as a former wc3 fan, it doesn't surprise me one bit.
mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
January 14 2012 17:09 GMT
#1591
This wasn't really expected.

As for the salary discussion; Can't really argument on any side until numbers are out. Good luck in the new team MC!
FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 17:13:35
January 14 2012 17:11 GMT
#1592
On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/


Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones.

I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though.


Why would you rather listen to OP rather than Huk here? Huk has nothing to gain by lying in this situation.
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
January 14 2012 17:14 GMT
#1593
On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/


Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones.

I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though.


How is HuK very interested? He said in an interview when first joining EG that he didn't care if anyone knew what he made but would refrain from telling because EG and TL may not appreciate that. It doesn't hurt HuK any for people to believe he is worth a lot of money. He just seems to be clearing up a mistake.

Also, do we have verification that that is HuK?
CoaXeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1 Post
January 14 2012 17:16 GMT
#1594
Maybe im wrong but..... wasnt MC wearing that hoodie at HSCIV?
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
January 14 2012 17:18 GMT
#1595
On January 15 2012 02:16 CoaXeD wrote:
Maybe im wrong but..... wasnt MC wearing that hoodie at HSCIV?


MC already represented SK at foreign events, so it would make sense.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 14 2012 17:19 GMT
#1596
On January 15 2012 02:16 CoaXeD wrote:
Maybe im wrong but..... wasnt MC wearing that hoodie at HSCIV?

Well he had already represented SK for a while at intl'l tourneys
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 17:38:47
January 14 2012 17:36 GMT
#1597
On January 15 2012 02:14 esaul17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/


Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones.

I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though.


How is HuK very interested? He said in an interview when first joining EG that he didn't care if anyone knew what he made but would refrain from telling because EG and TL may not appreciate that. It doesn't hurt HuK any for people to believe he is worth a lot of money. He just seems to be clearing up a mistake.

Also, do we have verification that that is HuK?


MC and Huk are both great players. However, it's pretty clear that MC is both the more accomplished player, and the player who's doing better at Starcraft 2 at the moment. He just won HSCIV, and he's currently in Code S. Additionally, he's one of the best showmen in the sport, so we're not dealing with an antisocial prodigy here.

So, if Huk were really making 10 times as much as MC, many people would say MC is getting too little or Huk is getting too much. At least in my opinion, having threads talking about Huk and MC's relative worth would not be beneficial for Huk.

Again, I'm more inclined to trust anonymous sources over known professionals and casters when it comes the business of SC2. But please don't think I'm going to scream at you to convert you to my point of view, or that I'm talking down to you in any way.
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
January 14 2012 17:38 GMT
#1598
i wonder how this will make him better
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
January 14 2012 17:45 GMT
#1599
On January 15 2012 02:36 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 02:14 esaul17 wrote:
On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/


Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones.

I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though.


How is HuK very interested? He said in an interview when first joining EG that he didn't care if anyone knew what he made but would refrain from telling because EG and TL may not appreciate that. It doesn't hurt HuK any for people to believe he is worth a lot of money. He just seems to be clearing up a mistake.

Also, do we have verification that that is HuK?


MC and Huk are both great players. However, it's pretty clear that MC is both the more accomplished player, and the player who's doing better at Starcraft 2 at the moment. He just won HSCIV, and he's currently in Code S. Additionally, he's one of the best showmen in the sport, so we're not dealing with an antisocial prodigy here.

So, if Huk were really making 10 times as much as MC, many people would say MC is getting too little or Huk is getting too much. At least in my opinion, having threads talking about Huk and MC's relative worth would not be beneficial for Huk.

Again, I'm more inclined to trust anonymous sources over known professionals and casters when it comes the business of SC2. But please don't think I'm going to scream at you to convert you to my point of view, or that I'm talking down to you in any way.


I'm an anonymous source with no knowledge. MC currently makes 1 billion dollars a day. Believe me, because I'm anonymous and disinterested.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 17:53:15
January 14 2012 17:52 GMT
#1600
On January 15 2012 02:45 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 02:36 -_- wrote:
On January 15 2012 02:14 esaul17 wrote:
On January 15 2012 02:00 -_- wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:46 Olinimm wrote:
On January 15 2012 01:12 -_- wrote:
On January 14 2012 23:25 Robinsa wrote:
I hope he does well in SK and that SK has got starcraft right once and for all. We all remember their BW "allstar team" :D
On January 14 2012 23:24 fLaUpYY wrote:
the question is... why ??? oGs one of the best teams out there and playing in a house with that many members and trainers should be better than living on his own o.O

Its not. But getting 10k a month in your pocket is.


if rumours are to be believed, it's closer to 10k a year and travel.

Huk posted in that thread and said that's wrong. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/odqot/mc_leaves_ogs_joins_sk/


Interesting, thanks for the post. But honestly, I'd rather listen to the OP than Huk in this situation. No disrespect to him at all, but until numbers come out about 1) what he makes, 2) what MC makes, and 3) all the other subtleties of the Ks (prize money, travel, etc...) I'll stick to listening to potentially disinterested anonymous sources rather than very interested known ones.

I wouldn't blame you for doing different, though.


How is HuK very interested? He said in an interview when first joining EG that he didn't care if anyone knew what he made but would refrain from telling because EG and TL may not appreciate that. It doesn't hurt HuK any for people to believe he is worth a lot of money. He just seems to be clearing up a mistake.

Also, do we have verification that that is HuK?


MC and Huk are both great players. However, it's pretty clear that MC is both the more accomplished player, and the player who's doing better at Starcraft 2 at the moment. He just won HSCIV, and he's currently in Code S. Additionally, he's one of the best showmen in the sport, so we're not dealing with an antisocial prodigy here.

So, if Huk were really making 10 times as much as MC, many people would say MC is getting too little or Huk is getting too much. At least in my opinion, having threads talking about Huk and MC's relative worth would not be beneficial for Huk.

Again, I'm more inclined to trust anonymous sources over known professionals and casters when it comes the business of SC2. But please don't think I'm going to scream at you to convert you to my point of view, or that I'm talking down to you in any way.


I'm an anonymous source with no knowledge. MC currently makes 1 billion dollars a day. Believe me, because I'm anonymous and disinterested.


Excellent point. Anonymous sources can say whatever they want with no consequences, and can make stories up to amuse themselves or cause trouble. So, you need to look 1) at whether what the source say is plausible and rings true, 2) whether they have a proven track record, and 3) if what they say is backed up by other members of the community or if parts of their stories can be compared to known facts.

You're correct in suggesting that I can't know certainly whether the source is telling the truth, but you can hardly ever be sure of anything.

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