• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:04
CEST 01:04
KST 08:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
WardiTV Spring Cup 2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review BW General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1905 users

MC leaves oGs, joins SK full time - Page 78

Forum Index > SC2 General
1803 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 91 Next
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 14 2012 12:02 GMT
#1541
On January 14 2012 20:43 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 20:39 ritzia1 wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:41 MorroW wrote:
afaik nestea and mvp lives at home not in IM house, but they still get great practice (obviously since they are the best). MC might still practice with all the same practice partners as before, just at home. i wouldnt expect this to affect his results at all (unless being at home makes him less motivated to practice)

good luck to mc in his new team )


They visit the IM house frequently, which is why it works out for them with MC he isn't getting the same treatment they are since he's pretty much leaving the house. His skill will definitely go down, if you look at Puma he essentially did the same thing and people can agree his skill has dropped dramatically since TSL.


Wait, what? He didn't make any impact in GSL before the switch. He didn't make any impact in GSL after the switch. Why would people agree that his skill level dropped "dramatically"?

I wouldn't say his skill level dropped, I think it's more correct to say his development as a player slowed down and pretty much stagnated since the switch. He's the same player he was when he switched, he hasn't adapted or improved.
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
January 14 2012 12:04 GMT
#1542
On January 14 2012 19:12 mrtomjones wrote:
Has there been an OGS manager comment on this yet? If he moved out I assume it was not a good breakup..

That does not make any sense. Even if he had a good breakup, he would still need to move out and make room for other oGs players.
bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
January 14 2012 12:05 GMT
#1543
On January 14 2012 20:43 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 20:39 ritzia1 wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:41 MorroW wrote:
afaik nestea and mvp lives at home not in IM house, but they still get great practice (obviously since they are the best). MC might still practice with all the same practice partners as before, just at home. i wouldnt expect this to affect his results at all (unless being at home makes him less motivated to practice)

good luck to mc in his new team )


They visit the IM house frequently, which is why it works out for them with MC he isn't getting the same treatment they are since he's pretty much leaving the house. His skill will definitely go down, if you look at Puma he essentially did the same thing and people can agree his skill has dropped dramatically since TSL.


Wait, what? He didn't make any impact in GSL before the switch. He didn't make any impact in GSL after the switch. Why would people agree that his skill level dropped "dramatically"?

It' didn't dropped dramatically, but it also didn't improve. And when he moved into slayers house, he started to show results again.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 12:21:17
January 14 2012 12:17 GMT
#1544
On January 14 2012 21:05 bubl100500 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 20:43 SeaSwift wrote:
On January 14 2012 20:39 ritzia1 wrote:
On January 14 2012 19:41 MorroW wrote:
afaik nestea and mvp lives at home not in IM house, but they still get great practice (obviously since they are the best). MC might still practice with all the same practice partners as before, just at home. i wouldnt expect this to affect his results at all (unless being at home makes him less motivated to practice)

good luck to mc in his new team )


They visit the IM house frequently, which is why it works out for them with MC he isn't getting the same treatment they are since he's pretty much leaving the house. His skill will definitely go down, if you look at Puma he essentially did the same thing and people can agree his skill has dropped dramatically since TSL.


Wait, what? He didn't make any impact in GSL before the switch. He didn't make any impact in GSL after the switch. Why would people agree that his skill level dropped "dramatically"?

It' didn't dropped dramatically, but it also didn't improve. And when he moved into slayers house, he started to show results again.

But.. Puma was still living for a while in the TSL house and trained with them and after he left he still played with them and others (like oGsTOP etc.). The switch did nothing to his skill lvl. He still defeated many great Korean players at MLGs.

Same with MC. His skill won't decline, he will still find plenty of players who want to practise with him. And also, MC knows what he is doing, he knows exactly what waits for him when he signed that contract. Maybe SK gets additional players or they will get a partnership with an other team
nucky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada43 Posts
January 14 2012 12:22 GMT
#1545
First reaction was ; Really? Second thought was ; Like a BOSS
ZONTICKSZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom11 Posts
January 14 2012 12:33 GMT
#1546
Didn't see this coming at all.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
January 14 2012 12:37 GMT
#1547
Haha hes the only play for SK gaming for sc2, thats pretty pathetic? Who will he practice against? ladder? :D
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
Blizz_
Profile Joined January 2012
France11 Posts
January 14 2012 12:40 GMT
#1548
On January 14 2012 21:37 Zanazuah wrote:
Haha hes the only play for SK gaming for sc2, thats pretty pathetic? Who will he practice against? ladder? :D


oGs isn't dead! He will still practice with his old team-mates, how stupid are people in this thread! You don't need to be on the same team to play custom-games on ladder -_-
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
January 14 2012 12:41 GMT
#1549
On January 14 2012 21:37 Zanazuah wrote:
Haha hes the only play for SK gaming for sc2, thats pretty pathetic? Who will he practice against? ladder? :D


Yea right, players only practice with their teammates....
Scorm
Profile Joined April 2011
United States104 Posts
January 14 2012 12:42 GMT
#1550
Wait.... What? Mind is blown.
“It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful.” -Anton LaVey
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
January 14 2012 12:52 GMT
#1551
man i did'nt see this coming and i dont know if i like this.... oke he'll probably have the same practice partners and be making alittle more money... but he has no coach... also he wont be playing in any team tournaments...... also probably the thing i fear the most his motivation he wont have the teamfibe like they have in the teamhouse i seen some video's where he has alot of fun with his teammates in the teamhouse. Now Mc will alwaise be alone wont have the social contact (irl) like he had before this could start to become really unmotivated.... im kinda scared...
d00fuz
Profile Joined September 2011
Malaysia129 Posts
January 14 2012 13:16 GMT
#1552
MC? Forever alone? President of protoss is never alone, how hard is it for MC to contact his old mates. Anyway I'm pretty sure SK is going to have more players, MC is just the beginning.
Naxx
Profile Joined July 2011
South Africa33 Posts
January 14 2012 13:16 GMT
#1553
On January 14 2012 21:52 Zaxon wrote:
man i did'nt see this coming and i dont know if i like this.... oke he'll probably have the same practice partners and be making alittle more money... but he has no coach... also he wont be playing in any team tournaments...... also probably the thing i fear the most his motivation he wont have the teamfibe like they have in the teamhouse i seen some video's where he has alot of fun with his teammates in the teamhouse. Now Mc will alwaise be alone wont have the social contact (irl) like he had before this could start to become really unmotivated.... im kinda scared...


/\ this
I feel the same, lets give some time and see what happen, lets hope the Obama toss keep ravaging nerds in and out
FUCK U
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
January 14 2012 13:31 GMT
#1554
i feel this is not going to work well for both sides, oGs ad MC.
MC is no longer the no1 player on oGs. That is supernova or maybe Fin in the future (IMO) but MC is still the top few players in oGs. Now they do not have a strong protoss (HerO is in liquid) and oGs loses one of their ace players.

mC also lose access to one of the best coaches, thewind and the help from his teammates by leaving oGs. He has fallen off compared to MVP and the new players are already starting to take over, MMA jjiakji leenock Supernova etc... and without a teamhose i don;t know if he can keep up.
Hopefully this works well for everyone :D GL MC and oGs
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 14 2012 13:37 GMT
#1555
I really want to know what the relationship is like between MC and oGs. I hope someone asks an oGs player after the next GSL round.
Zaxon
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium209 Posts
January 14 2012 13:38 GMT
#1556
MC was still the no1 player on ogs... its not cause he lost vs him in the groupstage that he is worse.....
Riquiz
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands402 Posts
January 14 2012 13:38 GMT
#1557
Wha wha wha whaaat?
Caster man does casting on yt/RiquizCasts
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 13:51:00
January 14 2012 13:50 GMT
#1558
MC just came of a big tourney win and made it into the ro16 while being really jet lagged and we talk about him slacking? Really? Also again him leaving the house does not mean that he will loose a single practice partner.
bouhko
Profile Joined January 2012
193 Posts
January 14 2012 14:01 GMT
#1559
I like how a lot of people are posting here saying MC has made a mistake, yet nobody has any other information than a two-line statement on SK's website.
The guys has won 2 GSL, he probably know how a progamer should train better than 99.99% of the posters on this thread.
u sixpoll ?
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
January 14 2012 14:08 GMT
#1560
On January 14 2012 22:31 Hopelessnoob wrote:
i feel this is not going to work well for both sides, oGs ad MC.
MC is no longer the no1 player on oGs. That is supernova or maybe Fin in the future (IMO) but MC is still the top few players in oGs. Now they do not have a strong protoss (HerO is in liquid) and oGs loses one of their ace players.

mC also lose access to one of the best coaches, thewind and the help from his teammates by leaving oGs. He has fallen off compared to MVP and the new players are already starting to take over, MMA jjiakji leenock Supernova etc... and without a teamhose i don;t know if he can keep up.
Hopefully this works well for everyone :D GL MC and oGs

lol only @ TL can you go from a 3% chance to get out of your group to best player in a day.
MC for president
Prev 1 76 77 78 79 80 91 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
CosmosSc2 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 12653
Artosis 492
ggaemo 76
910 34
Dota 2
monkeys_forever503
capcasts131
Counter-Strike
fl0m3634
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox851
Other Games
summit1g9090
tarik_tv7055
elazer1806
shahzam496
Maynarde58
Day[9].tv0
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV231
gamesdonequick223
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream200
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 82
• musti20045 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21761
Other Games
• imaqtpie2184
• Day9tv0
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
56m
GSL
10h 26m
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d
GSL
1d 10h
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
1d 10h
Big Gabe
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.