GOMTV presents the new format for the 2012 GSTL Series. The Global StarCraft II Team League will finally return on January 27th, 2012 (KST) with a slightly tweaked format. The GSTL will run for about 3 months and will be held 3 times in 2012. The format will differ from the one used during 2011 GSTL Season 1.
GSTL Format
The Format for the GSTL has been adjusted to fix an issue where the best player of a team weren't able to play due to the full league system that has been used. Because the scene is broadening and more teams might want and be able to participate in the future, the new system is now also more flexible and can possibly allow more teams to enter instead of being limited to the existing teams.
The GSTL will be divded into three rounds. There will always be two seeded teams, for the first GSTL Season of 2012 these teams will be last season's finalists MVP and Prime. All matches will be Bo9. Quantic Gaming will be participating in GSTL joining forces with StarTale. Therefore, the team name will be StarTaleQ.(NaNiWa and SaSe will be in StarTaleQ)
Round 1 The remaining 8 participating teams are matched up against each other. The winning four teams advance to the second round. The 4 losing teams play each other in the losers bracket, the two winning teams will advance do the second round.
Round 2 There are now 8 teams in the second round consisting of the 2 seeded teams and the 6 teams which advanced from round 1. These 8 teams are divided into two groups of 4 which will be played out with the Dual Tournament Format (see above for explanation)
Round 3 1st of Group A will play 2nd of Group B and 1st of Group B will play 2nd of Group A. The winning teams will meet in the finals.
Please note that you can purchase 2012 Yearly GSTL Premium/Premium+ ticket at discounted price(up to 20%) until January 26, 23:59PM (KST). Please contact us at support@gomtv.net if you have any questions.
Guess that means the StarTale/Quantic partnership is official now.
edit: For those that don't understand the format/think it's too hard, I'll explain.
MVP and Prime got seeded into the Round of 8 already. They won't play in the first 3 weeks.
The first 3 weeks are to cut down from the other 8 teams, to 6. So they're doing a mini tournament to eliminate 2 teams.
From Weeks 4-8, it's basically the same as a normal GSL group. Team 1 vs Team 4, Team 2 vs Team 3. Winners play each other, Losers play each other, and so on.
From Week 9 on, its a regular Semi finals and then finals.
Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
On January 13 2012 14:41 SenorChang wrote: Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
MVP has a pretty fucking deep line-up. They've won games without DongRaeGu, and have potential anchors from multiple races.
GSTL~~~~~~!!! <3 The new format seems very easy to understand, and I appreciate that they said it'll be easier for other teams to join in with this format ^^. Maybe some other people will be inspired to make hype threads like Virgilsc2 did for TSL? That would be awesome
On January 13 2012 14:45 terialk wrote: GSTL~~~~~~!!! <3 The new format seems very easy to understand, and I appreciate that they said it'll be easier for other teams to join in with this format ^^. Maybe some other people will be inspired to make hype threads like Virgilsc2 did for TSL? That would be awesome
lame format, I don't like it that 2 teams are already eliminated by the 3rd week, prefer the previous GSTL much more where you could see every team until almost the end. Also fantasy GSTL is ruined.
On January 13 2012 14:41 SenorChang wrote: Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
MVP has a pretty fucking deep line-up. They've won games without DongRaeGu, and have potential anchors from multiple races.
DRG all-killed Prime, got 3 kills against SlayerS, 3 kills against IM and 3 kills against oGs. The only other player to do remotely that well was Genius who all-killed NsHoseo so there was no need for DRG to come in and clean things up.
MvP might have a good lineup but they haven't really shown that they can get by without one player having to carry them through.
On January 13 2012 14:41 SenorChang wrote: Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
MVP has a pretty fucking deep line-up. They've won games without DongRaeGu, and have potential anchors from multiple races.
DRG all-killed Prime, got 3 kills against SlayerS, 3 kills against IM and 3 kills against oGs. The only other player to do remotely that well was Genius who all-killed NsHoseo so there was no need for DRG to come in and clean things up.
MvP might have a good lineup but they haven't really shown that they can get by without one player having to carry them through.
May I have to remind you that they WON the GSTL finals WITHOUT DRG?
Hmm, at first glance the group B matches seem a lot more interesting based on past teamleague performances. Startale and NSHS did quite well last season iirc and TSL was inexplicaby strong until they hit Prime.The teams in group A generally disappointed last season. I'm hopping Slayers steps up to regain a potion of its former teamleague glory, but I'm rooting for TSL to take it all,TSL fighting!
On January 13 2012 14:39 Dexington wrote: Lol Clam Before the Storm
Not the first time that a Korean confused Calm with Clam. Like the time Stats became Srats.
Anyways, cool format. For a second, I was scared that they omitted Prime and MVP, but then I just saw that they only seeded them higher into the bracket. Good for them.
I am especially interested to see how Zenex will do, especially after losing so many players over the past year.
On January 13 2012 14:49 Zzoram wrote: Most importantly is that the GSTL tickets are up for sale.
GSTL Light is $55 GSTL Premium is $75 GSTL Premium+ is $99
Why list the yearly ticket price? It's 19.99$ for a light season ticket, 29.99$ for premium w/ads season and 39.99$ without ads for a premium season ticket
On January 13 2012 14:49 Zzoram wrote: Most importantly is that the GSTL tickets are up for sale.
GSTL Light is $55 GSTL Premium is $75 GSTL Premium+ is $99
Why list the yearly ticket price? It's 19.99$ for a light season ticket, 29.99$ for premium w/ads season and 39.99$ without ads for a premium season ticket
On January 13 2012 14:41 SenorChang wrote: Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
MVP has a pretty fucking deep line-up. They've won games without DongRaeGu, and have potential anchors from multiple races.
yeah, Keen just all kill SlayerS (including MMA) last month and there's still SC Genius is a decent PvP sniper and off course DRG can clean up the rest
Wondering though, will Col player be included in GSTL ?
I would've preferred one big group similar to proleague or how it was done last season. Certainly wish they would make GSTL more important part of GSL. I think team leagues bring out a lot of excitement both ingame and between the games compared to individual leagues. Ceremonies really make GSTL so awesome :D
On January 13 2012 15:34 RPR_Tempest wrote: all-kill format is best format
god no.
I want to see new players not same person all killing all the time.
I can understand this issue in theory but I haven't seen anything like this in gstl. Lots of players started making names for themselves there and the spotlight was shared very well.
edit - I wish there was a way other than the extremely expensive monthly membership to watch gstl.
I like the all kill format because I like seeing all-kills. Seeing new players is well and good in theory, but then you have IM coach doing that every match and losing because of it. I like how this format encourages the better players to play because the games are more important.
What I dislike about GSTL's current format is that it feels random. There was like 10 all kills last season and it seems like almost anyone can win in this way.
EG Masters Cup would be the perfect format but without a 2v2 (although I didn't hate the 2v2) because it's pro league format with best of 3's. Let the players know a week in advance who they're playing and we'll get some great series.
Pro League format promotes teams with depth and encourages better preparation and strategising than winners league.
On January 13 2012 15:34 RPR_Tempest wrote: all-kill format is best format
god no.
I want to see new players not same person all killing all the time.
I can understand this issue in theory but I haven't seen anything like this in gstl. Lots of players started making names for themselves there and the spotlight was shared very well.
edit - I wish there was a way other than the extremely expensive monthly membership to watch gstl.
You can buy a season ticket just like last year ^^. It's $19.99.
On January 13 2012 16:33 Herry wrote: why no proleague format i want to see long seasons
Agree, also the prices ... i find them rather expencive, will have to watch low quality then nps.
And IM will easily dispatch of TSL who's overrated and apears the new bandwagon. happy to see oGs-TL pick Zenex, should be no problem for oGs to pick appart the weakest team around. SlayerS vs FXO should be intresting though, looking forward to that one, might be very close.
While I agree that Proleague format would enable teams to showcase more players, I don't think having only 1 game per match will really do much showcasing. Yeah you get to see him play 1 game and that's it.
However, in an All-Kill format, one unknown player can come out of nowhere and kick continuous ass. That's what happened with MMA and DRG at the start of the GSTL, they just kept taking out nerds left and right. Would they have received as much hype if they had only played 1 game per match? Definitely not.
They really need to just do simple proleague format with each round being a full round robin, and playoffs at the end of multiple rounds. Team league needs to be the backbone of the pro scene, whereas right now it is more near special event status.
Group B is such a group of death: NSH are beasts at team league, Startale too. Then there's IM and TSL on the other side. Time to see if TSL is still da bomb at team league.
I'm disappointed that they kept maps like dual sight and crossfire SE instead of replacing them. On the other hand I'm glad they kept the winner's league format. Can't wait.
The Format for the GSTL has been adjusted to fix an issue where the best player of a team weren't able to play due to the full league system that has been used. Because the scene is broadening and more teams might want and be able to participate in the future, the new system is now also more flexible and can possibly allow more teams to enter instead of being limited to the existing teams.
Ok, from the above and based wildly on my own hopes and this recent post with FXOBoSs TMZ style "40 days until a-team brood war players switch to sc2 professionally", we can be %1000 certain that it means that there with be BW pro's playing in the GSTL soon!
Ok, so I have no proof of this, but I will employ the powers of wishful thinking in the hopes it comes true.
GSL expects the team league to be expanding and modifies its format for that. I'm sure they know something we don't
On January 13 2012 20:20 careohx wrote: No EG (((( they have 4!! players in korea wtf i cant have enough of watching IdrA lose
Their problem is, they said on this thread on reddit, that firstly they have no coach over there, and secondly they want more variety in their lineup rather than the same 4 guaranteed, i think.
Gom always changes their formats damnit. Always confusing at first, then when i finally get used to it, they change their format again. Cant they just stick to 1 format?
On January 13 2012 21:31 Shadow_Dog wrote: If ST and Qantic can partner in GSTL, there is no reason that SlayerS and EG can't partner.
I believe their is a sponsor conflict because EG is sponsored by Steel Series and Slayers by Razer.
ST is sponsored by Zowie and Quantic is sponsored by Razer. Can some1 explain the difference between this and Proleague format? From what I see I think this format is a little better?
On January 13 2012 20:20 careohx wrote: No EG (((( they have 4!! players in korea wtf i cant have enough of watching IdrA lose
Their problem is, they said on this thread on reddit, that firstly they have no coach over there, and secondly they want more variety in their lineup rather than the same 4 guaranteed, i think.
True, however Incontrol and Demuslim coming over to spend time there as well, plus they could hire a mercenary or two (Sen/Morrow/ToD/Naama/Chinese players in Korea). I don't think having the same players guaranteed would be too much of a problem. I mean those players are all already in Korea, and any exposure to the EG brand plus the experience from the extra games on the big stage are of big benefit. If they get knocked out of the first round then so what...
I'd love to see every team to play against every team once in a one group.. No seedings or anything :/ It is always these weird formats (For teamleagues imo.)
On January 13 2012 21:31 Shadow_Dog wrote: If ST and Qantic can partner in GSTL, there is no reason that SlayerS and EG can't partner.
I believe their is a sponsor conflict because EG is sponsored by Steel Series and Slayers by Razer.
ST is sponsored by Zowie and Quantic is sponsored by Razer. Can some1 explain the difference between this and Proleague format? From what I see I think this format is a little better?
Well Idra was the one who said in the CSN interview that they couldn't participate in the GSTL was because of steelseries/razer. Apparently Zowie aren't whiny bitches
On January 13 2012 21:31 Shadow_Dog wrote: If ST and Qantic can partner in GSTL, there is no reason that SlayerS and EG can't partner.
I believe their is a sponsor conflict because EG is sponsored by Steel Series and Slayers by Razer.
ST is sponsored by Zowie and Quantic is sponsored by Razer. Can some1 explain the difference between this and Proleague format? From what I see I think this format is a little better?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proleague Proleague: Every player just plays once (in previous seasons the ace player could play twice), so both teams change players after each match. GSTL uses the all-kill format (player plays until he loses, then his team has to chose the next player) If that's what you wanted to know.
What's better? That's a matter of taste and totally subjective.
On January 13 2012 22:15 Tonttu wrote: I'd love to see every team to play against every team once in a one group.. No seedings or anything :/ It is always these weird formats (For teamleagues imo.)
I agree, and what's wrong with seeing rookies play instead of the same players you see every GSL or other international tournaments. If they changed it because of rookies, I think they made a big mistake.
Jeeze what is wrong with round robin with playoffs, like everyone is used to? Gom sure love making up weird and complicated formats. King of the Hill as a match format is fine.
As an sc2 fan who hasn't actually seen the pro league format, I gotta say it sounds like it could be pretty interesting, especially with the ace match. I'd like to see it used in sc2 at some point.
I also gotta say, the format does seem kinda weird; but if Gom decided that they didn't have enough time to do a full ten-team league, then this seems like a much better way to do things than just choosing who gets to play, either by gsl points or just arbitrarily, like they used to do.
no wait... : ill be rooting for the teams who actually make good choices when sending out players, and not just send out people at random. Which still might be SlayerS tho : )
On January 13 2012 21:31 Shadow_Dog wrote: If ST and Qantic can partner in GSTL, there is no reason that SlayerS and EG can't partner.
I believe their is a sponsor conflict because EG is sponsored by Steel Series and Slayers by Razer.
ST is sponsored by Zowie and Quantic is sponsored by Razer. Can some1 explain the difference between this and Proleague format? From what I see I think this format is a little better?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proleague Proleague: Every player just plays once (in previous seasons the ace player could play twice), so both teams change players after each match. GSTL uses the all-kill format (player plays until he loses, then his team has to chose the next player) If that's what you wanted to know.
What's better? That's a matter of taste and totally subjective.
Do the teams just choose players and then reveal the rosters to each other like a week before the match?
When is the fantasy league going to start? I leave around Jan 20th and won't have a computer for a month or two, so hopefully I can get involved with that before I go and just pray my first team can do well enough lol
On January 13 2012 21:31 Shadow_Dog wrote: If ST and Qantic can partner in GSTL, there is no reason that SlayerS and EG can't partner.
I believe their is a sponsor conflict because EG is sponsored by Steel Series and Slayers by Razer.
ST is sponsored by Zowie and Quantic is sponsored by Razer. Can some1 explain the difference between this and Proleague format? From what I see I think this format is a little better?
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Proleague Proleague: Every player just plays once (in previous seasons the ace player could play twice), so both teams change players after each match. GSTL uses the all-kill format (player plays until he loses, then his team has to chose the next player) If that's what you wanted to know.
What's better? That's a matter of taste and totally subjective.
Do the teams just choose players and then reveal the rosters to each other like a week before the match?
That method was stopped after the Savior matchfixing scandal. Now the lineups are determined right before the game starts.
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
Group B definitely looks way tougher than Group A and even the two seeded teams. I'd say that the winner will either be one of the Group B teams or DRG.
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
Man, I recently read they have XXXXXXX, he's supposed to be super awesome.
On January 13 2012 14:41 SenorChang wrote: Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
MVP has a pretty fucking deep line-up. They've won games without DongRaeGu, and have potential anchors from multiple races.
DRG all-killed Prime, got 3 kills against SlayerS, 3 kills against IM and 3 kills against oGs. The only other player to do remotely that well was Genius who all-killed NsHoseo so there was no need for DRG to come in and clean things up.
MvP might have a good lineup but they haven't really shown that they can get by without one player having to carry them through.
May I have to remind you that they WON the GSTL finals WITHOUT DRG?
Indeed, and that was when Genius all-killed NSHoSeo, as he just said.
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
That you know of
Why you no spill the beans?!!
We'd all be interested in hearing! :D
Still won't be able to compete with IM though. Unless MC moving to SK is really a cover for him really moving to TSL...
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
That you know of
Why you no spill the beans?!!
We'd all be interested in hearing! :D
Still won't be able to compete with IM though. Unless MC moving to SK is really a cover for him really moving to TSL...
On January 14 2012 03:41 jubil wrote: Ouch, TSL up against IM the very first round...
Don't worry, the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making. And TSL has more solid players across the board. It's just a matter of when they decide to use Polt. ^^
Yeah okay rofl
Totally agree with the fact that the IM coach is infamous for bad decision-making though.
IM's B-team is really unstable. They've succeeded and flopped in equal measure during team leagues.
Edit: lolololol I just realized that TSL has no protosses.
That you know of
Why you no spill the beans?!!
We'd all be interested in hearing! :D
Still won't be able to compete with IM though. Unless MC moving to SK is really a cover for him really moving to TSL...
On January 13 2012 14:41 SenorChang wrote: Was hoping they would scrap the winner's league format for the matches. Prefer the Proleague method! While all-kills are cool the alternative feels like it gives the teams more depth and less chance of one player carrying the team to victory *cough* MvP *cough*.
MVP has a pretty fucking deep line-up. They've won games without DongRaeGu, and have potential anchors from multiple races.
DRG all-killed Prime, got 3 kills against SlayerS, 3 kills against IM and 3 kills against oGs. The only other player to do remotely that well was Genius who all-killed NsHoseo so there was no need for DRG to come in and clean things up.
MvP might have a good lineup but they haven't really shown that they can get by without one player having to carry them through.
May I have to remind you that they WON the GSTL finals WITHOUT DRG?
Indeed, and that was when Genius all-killed NSHoSeo, as he just said.
That wasn't an all-kill, as Keen had won a game, and the GSTL finals was versus Prime (against whom DRG did not play either).
I'm confused about the format of individual matches. Are they going to change the full league format (where one player can all-kill) to 5 players from each team duking it out? the info about this said change is nowhere to be found either here or on GOM, or am I missing something?
Now with the vague IPL tweet, has there been anymore developments on the rumors of the possibility of the GSTL being held in the US?
Can't wait for the season to start. I would like to see Slayers win, but their zerg lineup still seems so weak. If only DRG had joined Slayers and Coca had not been banned. Then again, that would have been a terribly overpowered team.
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