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On January 09 2012 13:52 Golgotha wrote: a little birdy? were gonna need something more substantive or else this post doesn't really provide any new information that we did not already know.
How about a baby bear? + Show Spoiler +No, actually, he said in an interview that he wouldn't be switching IIRC. Midas T_T
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On January 09 2012 16:00 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 15:56 deadmau wrote: I'm a tad confused with Milkis' League of Legends comment. What does LoL have to do with Korean e-sports? Would it give it a boost or something? I think what he meant is that LoL is becoming the go to game in Korea.
yep, there is an OGN LoL league I believe.
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On January 09 2012 15:50 docvoc wrote: guys, most of the amazing scbw players haven't been that great, the bonjwa, NaDa hasn't put up beastly scores recently, MVP was minorly good, ogsfin / forGG was good, but not great, JulyZerg, one of the great zergs lost to HuK at dreamhack. The games are very different, i'm not saying they won't be good, i'm saying most of them won't be all they are cracked up to be. Boxer doesn't dominate the scene, NaDa doesn't dominate the scene, its MVP and Nestea and MMA and Ganzi, and of those, 3/4 were not great at BW. Yes because NaDa, July and BoxeR was killing everything when they switched, right? No, they were the old generation and their time was pretty much over.
Bad example.
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i'm pretty exicited for the games that will be produced and talent that will be incoming.
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On January 09 2012 15:50 docvoc wrote: guys, most of the amazing scbw players haven't been that great, the bonjwa, NaDa hasn't put up beastly scores recently, MVP was minorly good, ogsfin / forGG was good, but not great, JulyZerg, one of the great zergs lost to HuK at dreamhack. The games are very different, i'm not saying they won't be good, i'm saying most of them won't be all they are cracked up to be. Boxer doesn't dominate the scene, NaDa doesn't dominate the scene, its MVP and Nestea and MMA and Ganzi, and of those, 3/4 were not great at BW.
You need to shore up on your BW history a little more before trying to make such statements. Boxer, Nada and July have all performed marvelously in SC2, much better than they would have had they stayed in BW.
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On January 09 2012 16:07 Termit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 15:50 docvoc wrote: guys, most of the amazing scbw players haven't been that great, the bonjwa, NaDa hasn't put up beastly scores recently, MVP was minorly good, ogsfin / forGG was good, but not great, JulyZerg, one of the great zergs lost to HuK at dreamhack. The games are very different, i'm not saying they won't be good, i'm saying most of them won't be all they are cracked up to be. Boxer doesn't dominate the scene, NaDa doesn't dominate the scene, its MVP and Nestea and MMA and Ganzi, and of those, 3/4 were not great at BW. Yes because NaDa, July and BoxeR was killing everything when they switched, right? No, they were the old generation and their time was pretty much over. Bad example. while i agree with him to some extent, his examples were bad. My feeling is the game is too different for them to actually just hop in and dominate ezpz.
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What I really want is a mass switch of teams from BW to SC2 and have them duke it out with current sc2 korean teams in GSTL or maybe another league. I guess I will have to wait till goms exclusive rights is over.
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On January 09 2012 16:00 magnaflow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 15:56 deadmau wrote: I'm a tad confused with Milkis' League of Legends comment. What does LoL have to do with Korean e-sports? Would it give it a boost or something? I think what he meant is that LoL is becoming the go to game in Korea.
people actually going to watch that on t.v or turn up to a live audience to view that piece of shit? If that ever becomes the case esports in general should be written off. Nada lost me as a fan long time ago when he made that retarded LOL commercial.
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On January 09 2012 16:11 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 16:07 Termit wrote:On January 09 2012 15:50 docvoc wrote: guys, most of the amazing scbw players haven't been that great, the bonjwa, NaDa hasn't put up beastly scores recently, MVP was minorly good, ogsfin / forGG was good, but not great, JulyZerg, one of the great zergs lost to HuK at dreamhack. The games are very different, i'm not saying they won't be good, i'm saying most of them won't be all they are cracked up to be. Boxer doesn't dominate the scene, NaDa doesn't dominate the scene, its MVP and Nestea and MMA and Ganzi, and of those, 3/4 were not great at BW. Yes because NaDa, July and BoxeR was killing everything when they switched, right? No, they were the old generation and their time was pretty much over. Bad example. while i agree with him to some extent, his examples were bad. My feeling is the game is too different for them to actually just hop in and dominate ezpz. dominate no. no bw followers expected much. it is more of a cool factor to watch them transfer over due to their history and the opportunity to do well in a new game rather than expectation. they switched because they are no longer good enough at bw. but hey they are still doing well in sc2.
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Well I am very excited as I am sure others are, to see the high level of play they bring. These guys still have brood war mechanics (no point in arguing this, broodwar had harder mechanics than SC2 plain and simple).
What I am most curious about is that if BW s declining as rapidly as it seems, will top A team players (Hydra, Stork, etc.) make the switch now and start to assert dominance rather than play catch up later on. Or even retire.
The biggest thing is that if these big name do make the switch, how big is the korean scene about to get? Will it just be gom, will kespa come over? (don't know there contracts with blizzard for SC2 so we'll see).
I say the more skill the better for the scene as a whole, but this maybe widen the korean skill gap significantly.
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can i just say while bw skills are to some extent portable to sc2, its rather fallacious to assume that because some players were better/worse than say MVP or forgg at BW that they would have the same level of ability/success in sc2. alot of other factors come into play.
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This is awesome... happy day
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im really looking forward to it, hope they dont take too much time until they come to gsl, i mean forGG cant win every gsl until they officially start^^
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Do we know who's switching yet?
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Estonia4504 Posts
On January 09 2012 16:18 jinixxx123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 16:00 magnaflow wrote:On January 09 2012 15:56 deadmau wrote: I'm a tad confused with Milkis' League of Legends comment. What does LoL have to do with Korean e-sports? Would it give it a boost or something? I think what he meant is that LoL is becoming the go to game in Korea. people actually going to watch that on t.v or turn up to a live audience to view that piece of shit? If that ever becomes the case esports in general should be written off. Nada lost me as a fan long time ago when he made that retarded LOL commercial. Be respectful to the LoL community. League of Legends is gonna grow, give it time. Also, we haven't seen the best RTS players switch over yet, maybe the game will be better yet. We'll have to wait and see.
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On January 09 2012 16:32 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 16:18 jinixxx123 wrote:On January 09 2012 16:00 magnaflow wrote:On January 09 2012 15:56 deadmau wrote: I'm a tad confused with Milkis' League of Legends comment. What does LoL have to do with Korean e-sports? Would it give it a boost or something? I think what he meant is that LoL is becoming the go to game in Korea. people actually going to watch that on t.v or turn up to a live audience to view that piece of shit? If that ever becomes the case esports in general should be written off. Nada lost me as a fan long time ago when he made that retarded LOL commercial. Be respectful to the LoL community. League of Legends is gonna grow, give it time. Also, we haven't seen the best RTS players switch over yet, maybe the game will be better yet. We'll have to wait and see. 
there is no wait and seeing with that game. Its fun and all, but i do not want to watch it. This is not meant to bash LOL but some games just arent for esports. Such as World of Warcraft. If anything dota 2 should be way higher, and even then i still would never ever choose it over viewing starcraft 2.
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On January 09 2012 14:57 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +They have been playing sc2 for approximately 5 months so far, and from what I am told, they only play sc2 now during practice time. If this is true, then the players switching aren't players really worth getting too excited for. There's been no noticeable decline in play among BW players (except Sea  ...  ) and you obviously can't remain as a top BW player if you're only practicing SC2. The most logical assumption would be the A-teamers from Hwaseung/MBC/Wemade who didn't get picked up like Anytime, Lomo, Pure, etc. I mean, FXOBoss wouldn't be incorrect to call these guys consistent A-teamers but they don't represent a significant difference in skill level compared to the likes of Mvp, fOrGG or Hyun. I am intrigued by the whole 40 days thing. It's pretty strange that they would all switch at the same time. I would assume this means Kespa will be setting up their own league and maybe even their own teams to serve as a competitior to GOM. Pure is doing military service. He and Kal applied for ACE at the same time and they picked Kal [Why they didn't draft Pure as well is beyond me - he's better than half their roster].
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Estonia4504 Posts
On January 09 2012 16:36 jinixxx123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 16:32 mustaju wrote:On January 09 2012 16:18 jinixxx123 wrote:On January 09 2012 16:00 magnaflow wrote:On January 09 2012 15:56 deadmau wrote: I'm a tad confused with Milkis' League of Legends comment. What does LoL have to do with Korean e-sports? Would it give it a boost or something? I think what he meant is that LoL is becoming the go to game in Korea. people actually going to watch that on t.v or turn up to a live audience to view that piece of shit? If that ever becomes the case esports in general should be written off. Nada lost me as a fan long time ago when he made that retarded LOL commercial. Be respectful to the LoL community. League of Legends is gonna grow, give it time. Also, we haven't seen the best RTS players switch over yet, maybe the game will be better yet. We'll have to wait and see.  there is no wait and seeing with that game. Its fun and all, but i do not want to watch it. This is not meant to bash LOL but some games just arent for esports. Such as World of Warcraft. If anything dota 2 should be way higher, and even then i still would never ever choose it over viewing starcraft 2. You are just stating opinion here, and those exact same things have been said about SC2 over and over again. You've been here for a year. You should know better.
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