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On January 10 2012 22:55 havox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 13:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On January 10 2012 13:51 Muffinman53 wrote:On January 10 2012 13:33 StarStruck wrote:
Instead of just saying stuff. Look it up to double check if you aren't certain. It really isn't that hard to find. -_- You are close enough though.
We aren't left with very much anymore after MBC Game decided to shut down and players from three seperate teams were looking for new homes.
As a result we have a shortened PL format and the schedule isn't as fierce without the other network, teams and MBC tournament schedule. Things have definitely been toned down a bit, but the ratings are still fair. Nothing I wouldn't expect.
All I can say is wait and watch. I tried looking up the BW prize pools for OSL/MSL and couldn't find any up-to-date information. If you have a link to it that would be wonderful  that probably because no one really cares about prize pools of BW tournments really. [...] I might wanna disagree and dare to say that at least the players care about the prizepool. (but nice try making bw sound like something really elite where nobody cares about money^^)
We agree to disagree , the thing is in broodwar , it doesn't matter how much the prize money is , what matter's is , The prestige of winning a OSL that is important . Showing the world that you are the best individual in starcraft broodwar is the epitome of every bw pro gamer dream . Ask jangbi if he cared about the $$$ more than kissing the trophy and the prestige of winning the osl and he will tell you that nothing ever beats winning a damn osl that's for sure .
Than again , you pick the wrong guy to labelling as some kind of a elitist propaganda commissar , in fact blind rawr he is quite neutral to begin with compared to other bw forumer's but than again . If you don't experience brood war for your self , how can we agree about thing's or have a better perspective in what's happening in our side ? .
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I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell. There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game.
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On January 10 2012 22:55 havox_ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 13:54 BLinD-RawR wrote:On January 10 2012 13:51 Muffinman53 wrote:On January 10 2012 13:33 StarStruck wrote:
Instead of just saying stuff. Look it up to double check if you aren't certain. It really isn't that hard to find. -_- You are close enough though.
We aren't left with very much anymore after MBC Game decided to shut down and players from three seperate teams were looking for new homes.
As a result we have a shortened PL format and the schedule isn't as fierce without the other network, teams and MBC tournament schedule. Things have definitely been toned down a bit, but the ratings are still fair. Nothing I wouldn't expect.
All I can say is wait and watch. I tried looking up the BW prize pools for OSL/MSL and couldn't find any up-to-date information. If you have a link to it that would be wonderful that probably because no one really cares about prize pools of BW tournments really. [...] I might wanna disagree and dare to say that at least the players care about the prizepool. (but nice try making bw sound like something really elite where nobody cares about money^^)
players get good salaries and free living(only the latter for b-teamers) in team dorms, to them money is never the issue to perform which is why I say that.
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players get good salaries
So all the players get the same salaries? Or do the players that WIN get paid more... Of course, prestige is nice but I think it would be naive to say that money doesn't play a role
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On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:
I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell. There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game.
Ditto! .. Except completely the other way around.
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On January 10 2012 23:33 vthree wrote:So all the players get the same salaries? Or do the players that WIN get paid more... Of course, prestige is nice but I think it would be naive to say that money doesn't play a role
You win big matches for your team , you win an individual league , Sponsors are happy that you are promoting their name with your wins . Sponsor's decide to double your salary , Not a win win situation eh ?
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On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:
I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell. There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game.
In that case, I assume you look forward to when all SC2 players switch to LoL (StarTale has already created a LoL team)? SC2 had a good run, but all good things must come to an end, right?
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I want BW players to stick with brood war for aslong as they can, no point in switching until the community dies out. and i'm not saying its 100% correct that they ever will. but you guys must notice how few people are still sticking with BW.
And Flash and jaedong switching to sc2 would be devestating. i mean. no money for other players and foreigners are definately out xP
jk..
(or am I??)
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On January 10 2012 23:37 gn0m wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:
I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell. There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game. In that case, I assume you look forward to when all SC2 players switch to LoL (StarTale has already created a LoL team)? SC2 had a good run, but all good things must come to an end, right?
lol.. SC2 is a very young game. and even tho people are saying MVP plays good, he can play better right? I mean the potential of sc2 havent been shown at all. in maybe a year (less or more) good players will be separated from the flock and we as viewers get to see how sc2 can be played.
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Jaedong to IM and I`m the happiest nerdling on earth.
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On January 10 2012 23:44 zul wrote:Jaedong to IM and I`m the happiest nerdling on earth.
IMJaedong sounds terrible... honestly just about all team-player combinations sounds terrrible for Flash/Jaedong.
Edit: Just imagine any of them joining Prime, LOL what a fail that would be xD
FlashPrime & JaedongPrime ftw >.<
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Do SC2 teams can afford to pay salaries to the tyrant, god, the revolutionist, the terrorist and the dynotoss anyway?
I dont think that chicken wings are too profitable to enable a team to pay a salary of US$ 200 000 for a player.
Keep dreaming though, BW is still rocking hard!
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I'm gonna blame team 8's terrible performance on this.  I mean they're basically run by KeSPA and if KeSPA was thinking about switching they'd be one of the first teams to know about it so they'd be one of the first to start practicing while letting their BW play slip. Or maybe I just need a scapegoat.
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On January 10 2012 23:54 fabiano wrote:
Do SC2 teams can afford to pay salaries to the tyrant, god, the revolutionist, the terrorist and the dynotoss anyway?
I dont think that chicken wings are too profitable to enable a team to pay a salary of US$ 200 000 for a player.
Keep dreaming though, BW is still rocking hard!
I guess a lot depends on the route KeSPA is going. Will they stick with BW or switch to SC2. When they switch, SC2 should get a lot more attention by the audience and therefore become more attractive for sponsors. IF this happens korean teams could pay better then they do now.
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lemme know when Flash switches -- Idc about all the other guys
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On January 10 2012 23:55 xBillehx wrote:I'm gonna blame team 8's terrible performance on this. I mean they're basically run by KeSPA and if KeSPA was thinking about switching they'd be one of the first teams to know about it so they'd be one of the first to start practicing while letting their BW play slip. Or maybe I just need a scapegoat.
Every team is KeSPA. ._. In other words, it includes every sponsor so that is a mute point as every team could make that excuse. Not to say every household and training schedule is exactly the same. That and the Dream Team is very, very small. Yes, GTR is right. They don't have much of a coaching staff, so they're left to think amongst themselves.
The dream team has just been stinking.
BW salaries are pretty darn good still compared to what some of the Korean SC2 players are making if you have decent showings.
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On January 10 2012 23:54 fabiano wrote:
Do SC2 teams can afford to pay salaries to the tyrant, god, the revolutionist, the terrorist and the dynotoss anyway?
I dont think that chicken wings are too profitable to enable a team to pay a salary of US$ 200 000 for a player.
Keep dreaming though, BW is still rocking hard!
Looks like Hwaseung Oz couldn't quite afford to pay Jaedong's salary either.
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On January 10 2012 23:37 gn0m wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:
I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell. There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game. In that case, I assume you look forward to when all SC2 players switch to LoL (StarTale has already created a LoL team)? SC2 had a good run, but all good things must come to an end, right?
lol, switch to LoL.
you would think a game running for Esport title with 10 times more active player than starcraft would have relatively more impressive viewership and actually have organization backing their esport scenes, instead of letting riot paying for everything out of their pocket.
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On January 11 2012 02:00 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 23:37 gn0m wrote:On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:
I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell. There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game. In that case, I assume you look forward to when all SC2 players switch to LoL (StarTale has already created a LoL team)? SC2 had a good run, but all good things must come to an end, right? lol, switch to LoL. you would think a game running for Esport title with 10 times more active player than starcraft would have relatively more impressive viewership and actually have organization backing their esport scenes, instead of letting riot paying for everything out of their pocket.
Didn't the simultaneous stream viewers for LoL at Dreamhack Summer top out at over 200k?
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