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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On January 02 2012 18:19 T.O.P. wrote: Back in the broodwar days, Idra used to post a lot. He's one of the few writing good posts in the strategy forum. SC2 came and he no longer cares. Who can blame him. I stopped reading it after the beta | ||
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ABAH
Australia43 Posts
On January 02 2012 20:12 DarKFoRcE wrote: i agree with what idra said, i used to post quite regularly in the strategy forum, but i just cant be arsed to waste my time to argue with people who have no clue about the game, but great overestimate their knowledge. but they get super pissed when i tell them that they are just completely wrong. It'd be great to have you back; even in the last 12 months the strat forum has degraded further and further. | ||
Falling
Canada11350 Posts
On January 02 2012 19:11 Megaliskuu wrote: Nowadays when "pros" post they get a large number of people just nuthugging them and it ruins threads. Maybe. But I wonder if it's mostly other forum posters that get irritated by this. I guess it could be pro's second irritation and certainly I don't see a lot of pro's desperate for group think following. But any time these sorts of threads come up, the pro's mention the arrogance of no-name posters more than anything else. I don't really remember how pro's were treated in my 07 lurking days- I didn't really know who was who back then, but I suspect in SC2 a lot of people felt the playing field had been levelled in Beta and beyond leading to greater arrogance. BW is such a climb to get through and if you're D- you KNOW you're rubbish. There's a world of a difference between D- and even D/ D+. Nevermind B, A all the way up to Korean proleague A class and S class who were untouchable. That skill gradation exists in SC2, but for some reason the newness made people feel a little closer to the pro's... even if they weren't. Also, it seems many personalities have consciously have withdrawn from posting without any particular grievance, but more pre-emptively. Tasteless aka MyLostTemple and Day9 come to mind. Both of them seem to have withdrawn before any sort of flaming or bashing could begin. As SC get's bigger, it just seems the path of least resistance to focus on your community involvement and leaving the posting to someone else. | ||
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bertu
Brazil871 Posts
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Noak3
United States236 Posts
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megapants
United States1314 Posts
it's not like people exclusively shoot down pro posts. if they are the type of argue over someone else's statements, then they are likely the type to do that regardless of who said it. i feel like pros should just ignore those types of posts (or report or something) and just continue to discuss with people who are actually looking to learn instead of lengthen their e-peen. | ||
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VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On January 03 2012 10:07 VTPerfect wrote: They will start posting again once they realize its again safe, I know i have. By that do you mean once some of the large amount of new posters that came in with the release of SC2 either learn the ways of TL or leave? Granted I'm obviously one of those noobs, though hopefully I've more or less assimilated to the TL ways. | ||
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SpinmovE
Canada119 Posts
The strategy forum in particular has been fairly useless as a resource. There are many good topics in the strategy forum, well written, easy to follow, thoroughly explained and detailed. The problem is in the responses in almost all cases. Having to wade through pages of masters or lower players argue is not helpful at all. I've personally been in the top ~500 NA players more then once and I know that my opinion is going to be wrong more often then not. Seeing people much, much worse then me argue about stuff they don't fully understand at a high level is completely pointless and a waste of time. The addition of the "blue" posters in the strategy forum is a helpful addition but it often turns into a recognized high level player arguing with a random low level player, once again it's not helpful to read. Personally I would enjoy a forum where you had to link to your battle.net or sc2ranks profile that is at minimum in the top 400 for your region. It might be elitist, it might not be active enough, it might be a lot of things. But it almost might promote more in depth and higher level strategy discussion. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
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HuK
Canada1591 Posts
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wattabeast
United States957 Posts
On January 03 2012 18:40 HuK wrote: usually i really dont have that much time to post or read the forums nemore; now mostly because im on vacation. Add HuK to the list of players that post ^^ also makes sense that pros don't have the time to, they practice 12 hours a day  | ||
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
On January 03 2012 19:02 wattabeast wrote: Add HuK to the list of players that post ^^ also makes sense that pros don't have the time to, they practice 12 hours a day You'd be suprised how many pros that aren't in teamhouses don't practice nearly as much as you think. | ||
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
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Gnarg
Netherlands165 Posts
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On January 03 2012 19:06 FryktSkyene wrote: You'd be suprised how many pros that aren't in teamhouses don't practice nearly as much as you think. I dont think anyone would be suprised anymore though. Now a days you can really tell who is practicing for 8-10 hours and who is only doing it for 3-4.... | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On January 04 2012 01:09 marvellosity wrote: I wonder if any long-standing forum users anywhere in cyberspace think their forum has improved and matured with age... things are forever going downhill (usually downhill = more people = I feel less speshal now) That decline is not a function of time, it's a function of popularity (and money). I literally can't think of a single hobby or entertainment product that I enjoyed equally (or more) after it became hugely popular and/or people started getting paid for it as I did beforehand when it comes to the community feel. It's not so much about feeling "special", it's more about feeling "at home". | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On January 03 2012 18:33 Silentness wrote: I saw the same issue occur back in the old days for Shoryuken website. Back when Street Fighter 3 Third strike and the whole daigo parry bullshit. That daigo incident pretty much introduced a whole lot of newbie players interested in the game. I witnessed it in my old arcade that I use to play at. All these random newbies that thought they were fucking good would talk so much shit only for me to whip their ass. It got annoying because they always talk about how good they were or the "perfect" strategy, but I've been playing the game for a long ass time before it was popular so to see new random players talk all this bullshit just turned me off. Also pro players like Justin Wong and Sanford Kelly used to post so much in the Marvel vs Capcom 2 forums, CvS2, and etc on the Shoryuken website. After a while though with Street Fighter IV coming out and shit it just seems pointless to post anymore because there is so much random garbage to sift through and many people are born to troll the random pro player that gets the guts to make a post. I can't tell what is worse, obnoxious elitists, or stupid newbies. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Darkforce gives advice pretty often in the strategy forum though. | ||
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