I always love to see pros/public figures post here, they provide interesting insights.
Too bad that when people are on forums they tend to treat anything as if it's a competition, instead of a confrontation... so they use whatever they can "to win".

Therefore we get very few pros who still bother to post their honest opinion (Cloud is the first example that comes into my mind) and then some other who come here but actually soften everything they write or just post compliments/emoticons and so on.

The very few times I happened to interact with some pros they were really nice and gave me insights I didn't expected.
We should treasure their presence, it's one of the reasons why TL is the most useful Sc2 site on the net.

UndoneJin

United States438 Posts

January 02 2012 20:26 GMT

#184

Honestly, it just comes with the territory. It will only get worse too as SC2 grows. When you're a top-tier pro, you sort of give up the right to be just a part of the discussion/another poster =/

llnoobeaterll

United States24 Posts

January 02 2012 20:33 GMT

#185

Why not have a separate forum where only pros and knowledgeable people can post but the general community can still read the discussions?

zul

Germany5427 Posts

January 02 2012 20:34 GMT

#186

you get a good idea if you check the progamers streams and almost everyone of them has a TL tab open in their browser.

United States6173 Posts

January 02 2012 20:36 GMT

#187

On January 02 2012 18:19 T.O.P. wrote:
Back in the broodwar days, Idra used to post a lot. He's one of the few writing good posts in the strategy forum. SC2 came and he no longer cares.

He was almost as bad as Artosis with the imba underpowered whines about Terran, iirc...

Snorkle

United States1648 Posts

January 02 2012 20:37 GMT

#188

The larger the fan-base the larger the gap between the "pros" and us peons will become. It is the natural progression of things. A slight difference now is that we have streaming where pros have a platform to voice their opinions, discuss strategy and interact with their fans if they choose to do so.... or grope pornstars... for what its worth.

ronpaul012

United States769 Posts

January 02 2012 20:42 GMT

#189

On January 03 2012 05:33 llnoobeaterll wrote:
Why not have a separate forum where only pros and knowledgeable people can post but the general community can still read the discussions?

I dont think most pro's want to put a ton of their opinions in writing. It's a lot easier for people to spin their words if they write them on a forum. And if they put it in a special forum like that, it would get a lot more attention. Also, who would determine who the pro's are? Would b-team level players be considered pro's?

Besides, I thought I remember hearing that MLG had special forums for pro's to discuss what they liked/didn't like about their tournaments, but not many pro's actually posted there. (They mentioned it on one of the SOTG i believe, could be wrong)

SafeAsCheese

United States4924 Posts

January 02 2012 20:43 GMT

#190

On January 03 2012 05:33 llnoobeaterll wrote:
Why not have a separate forum where only pros and knowledgeable people can post but the general community can still read the discussions?

Because that's even more elitist?

It's not like anyone would post there anyway. If pros want to talk to each other, they skype. There is noting IdrA is going to post that he doesn't want anyone except MorroW or Huk to comment on.

ROOTFayth

Canada3351 Posts

January 02 2012 20:45 GMT

#191

from what I've gathered most think people here are a bit too stupid to even bother also heard a lot of complaints about the very strict mods

it's too serious in here

KDot2

United States1213 Posts

January 02 2012 20:50 GMT

#192

On January 02 2012 20:50 Snettik wrote:
It would actually be nice if there would be a forum where only pros/people who know about sc2 could post and most people would just read it (like me and other noobs). That would pretty much be the opposite of TL these days. Pro posts get buried under a mountain of shit.

EDIT: also i'm too dumb to see what is a retarded strategy post and what is not so it's really hard to actually get anything out of the strategy forum

I feel like TL should really experiment with this kind of stuff or even limit posts per day to 2 or 3 until you get a certain amount of karma or something

its the only forum I visit where I don't recognize names of most posters after a while .... seems like there is too many posters and posts and everything is diluted ... I really hope TL takes a look at the way the forums work and see if anything can be done

Ulfsark

United States958 Posts

January 02 2012 20:59 GMT

#193

Because whenever one of them posts something its a big deal and it gets blown out of proportion either for good or for bad.

devPLEASE

Kenya605 Posts

January 02 2012 20:59 GMT

#194

On January 03 2012 02:39 Grovbolle wrote:

Show nested quote +

OFC you forgot iNcontrol who posts a lot for a pro. (currently, I know he has like 27K post or something)

Incontrol posts a lot because he probably has two monitors and is a good multitasker

Vivax

22424 Posts

January 02 2012 21:02 GMT

#195

Well if you can create a thread specifying posting rules with support from the mods, especially needed in threads where people start talking about scientific stuff after something related happened, then it would boost the post quality.
Lots of such threads are a mix of long, extensive posts and little posts stating a quick and blunt opinion, then there are pairs of people quoting themselves into massive argumentation chains and taking a shitload of space cause they are too lazy to put repetitive stuff in spoilers.
I cba to reply in such threads anymore being the more extensive type.

Still gonna depend on the rules of such threads though, and maybe there are better forums for certain topics..

Glurkenspurk

United States1915 Posts

January 02 2012 21:06 GMT

#196

On January 03 2012 05:45 ReignFayth wrote:
from what I've gathered most think people here are a bit too stupid to even bother also heard a lot of complaints about the very strict mods

it's too serious in here

Mods aren't strict enough. It's kinda weird they have that reputation tbh.

FlyingToilet

United States840 Posts

January 02 2012 21:08 GMT

#197

i posted in a sc2 strategy once about bio vs mech, and drewbie hopped in and pretty much cleared things up for me. thought it was pretty cool and helpful also lightened my perspective on team liquid!

Gl!tch

United States573 Posts

January 02 2012 21:12 GMT

#198

I think there is alot of pro interaction between pro's and the masses (bronze through masters) that occurs in their streams.

Example: I don't think i've seen WhiteRa post in these forums once (im sure he has, but I havn't seen it), but right now, his stream has over 10,000 viewers that he is, in a way, discussing stratagy with, simply by playing.

BraneSC2

United States123 Posts

January 02 2012 21:13 GMT

#199

This is impossible. They got rid of lurkers in starcraft 2.

Balgrog

United States1221 Posts

January 02 2012 21:15 GMT

#200

Of course the pro's come here, this is the premiere SC2 webiste to keep up on builds/news/tournaments/announcements. Most the pro's have been here and posting here since the days of broodwar, considering that is where most of them got started!