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Thanks for pointing these things out OP... Is there some way you can alert Blizzard about them directly? I had noticed a few of them (the caps thing in paticular).
Design stuff like this effects players' enjoyment of the game even if we don't notice it consciously ... so thanks for doing the work of noticing it... And maybe you can send an invoice to Bliz haha
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On December 27 2011 22:27 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:09 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too. Wait , these are blizzard alternatives. Not to mention you can't be a pro with those games and make money. I would love to play bw or wc3 all day but it's not logical. Almost everyone moved to starcraft 2. It's actually a very bad thing that sc2 is the only competitive rts atm.
Unless you're trying to go pro, the fact that it's possible to make money doing something is probably the worst reason to choose a hobby. If you'd rather be playing WC3 or BW all day, you can still find people to give you competetive matches in either of those games.
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First: I do agree with you that the SC2 UI is pretty bad, and that the flaws you pointed out should be fixed. But you somehow managed to pick the most unimportant parts of the UI to showcase.
Energy should not be spend on fixing those unsignificant things when there are much bigger flaws in the UI: Think about having huge bulk frames limiting your view of the battlefield (like the unit info window in the bottom center of the screen, or the unit ability window in the bottom right), or that almost every window in the SC2 lobby takes far too long to load.
Blizzard could've done a much better job with the UI. I would really like to have the SC2 UI customizable like we have in WoW, where everyone can use or programm addons which customize almost every aspect of the interface to their preference. The results would be pretty interesting I think.
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oh no, my OCD is running wild, why did you have to point this out 
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fairly simple to explain, happened when they scrapped and remade the bnet. So not an sc2 problem but an battle net problem. And some of the stuff the op is complaining about is only what the op prefers.
It was fun to read those complaints though lol.
I wonder if the transparency is a point of complaining ... I mean the transparent part is for stuff, where you want to still see whats happening in the game. While the non transparent parts are windows where its more likely you don't want to see the game running in the background, because its disturbing.
That being said i actually find the ui well thought out and made with care, unlike many other games just using the same font and setting all over.
The difference in font and size makes it also easier to orientate. (means you are able to change settings faster, which is something important if you have to do it)
But despite that the op dislikes this, the battlenet info screens should really be in an race themed style. But this might be done with the last expansion, as bnet2 is not sc2. And the bnet2 was not ready when WoL was released, so it lacks behind.
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Why are you guys even bringing up gameplay? He's not criticizing SC2 as a game only these inconsistencies in the UI. As for who cares, well thats also beside the point, this isn't about who does or doesn't care, it's simply that there are flaws in the UI which should be fixed.
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Impressive find. Surprised all the detail flaws when one look for them.
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On December 27 2011 22:28 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:19 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:17 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. By 'people like me', you mean people who actually enjoy the game instead of incessantly whining about it? I don't get what you are getting at, of course they are trying to make money, did you expect them to give you the game for free? Starcraft is by far the best value for money game I've bought. I'm sorry you can't join in the fun. One thing, first. We are behind a computer, but that doesn't mean there should be no respects between us. When I said "people like you" I didn't mean to attack you personally. Just the way you think about the game  . No, that's the not the problem. I'm whining because I know I could have had more. Don't say me that game is complete. I don't care about portraits\achievement and so on. I would exchange everything they made (but the league system) for the features given by SC1. Trust me I know the game isn't complete, and there are a few simple things that Blizzard could do and fix that would go a long way. But everything is relative, you could always 'have more' but IMO I don't understand why your argument is justified when Blizzard do make some of the best quality games out there. Whilst it would be nice for things to be perfect, you need to put things in perspective. And when you compare Blizzard to companies such as Activision and EA, they are miles ahead in terms of quality. But you can't expect them to compete with these companies if they put in all this work and don't ask for money (i.e expansions) Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:22 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:20 aderum wrote:On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete. Why are you posting in the SC2 section of this forum? If you dont like the game, stay away from it. There is a lot of people here that love the game, even if it have had a few "flaws". I never said I don't like the game. Still flaming me? I'm just saying that game is incomplete. That's ALL. and if you refuse to notice that you are probably blind (on your view about Starcraft) Just thought I would quote this, I think you might be mistaking aderum for me lol just wanted to clear it up. Edit: Also you never know, they might be fixing some of these issues you have a problem with in HOTS
ok, you are right. But this behaviour is justified just because Blizzard knows to have no rivals on market. And they know you would buy anyway their products, because they are a monopoly.
You can't compare blizzard with Ea or Activision, just because they are society that proved to be way worse than blizzard. You should compare them with a society that is as great as blizzard was (because blizzard isn't good as it was in past)
Also now isn't blizzard called "activision blizzard"?
Question: when Dota will be out, I don't think people will bet on blizzard's dota to be better than Valve. and wanna know why?
Edit 2: that's not what I meant VikingKong.
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On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete.
You can't be serious. How the hell can you possibly consider SC2 rushed when it took the guys at least 6 years to make it?
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Because Blizzard Dota is pretty much made as a bit of a joke? And it runs in SC2 instead of being it's own client? Because Icefrog is making DotA2? You're grasping at straws a little here...
More on topic, I agree that these should be changed, but it's kinda nitpicky. The UI suffers from way worse elements than these relatively minor flaws. The general bulkiness of all the windows, the relatively long time everything takes to load, the absolutely pants-on-head stupid custom game interface, etc. etc. are all bigger issues.
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On December 27 2011 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:27 Odal wrote:On December 27 2011 22:09 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too. Wait , these are blizzard alternatives. Not to mention you can't be a pro with those games and make money. I would love to play bw or wc3 all day but it's not logical. Almost everyone moved to starcraft 2. It's actually a very bad thing that sc2 is the only competitive rts atm. Unless you're trying to go pro, the fact that it's possible to make money doing something is probably the worst reason to choose a hobby. If you'd rather be playing WC3 or BW all day, you can still find people to give you competetive matches in either of those games.
I am trying to go pro. And I hate the fact that the only possible rts to play to do so is sc2. No competition can lead to them making retarded decisions and getting away with it.
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On December 27 2011 22:47 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On December 27 2011 22:27 Odal wrote:On December 27 2011 22:09 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too. Wait , these are blizzard alternatives. Not to mention you can't be a pro with those games and make money. I would love to play bw or wc3 all day but it's not logical. Almost everyone moved to starcraft 2. It's actually a very bad thing that sc2 is the only competitive rts atm. Unless you're trying to go pro, the fact that it's possible to make money doing something is probably the worst reason to choose a hobby. If you'd rather be playing WC3 or BW all day, you can still find people to give you competetive matches in either of those games. I am trying to go pro. And I hate the fact that the only possible rts to play to do so is sc2. No competition can lead to them making retarded decisions and getting away with it.
There is still SC:BW in Korea ;D
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I would be impossible for me to care any less
User was warned for this post
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On December 27 2011 22:58 Laurence wrote:
I would be impossible for me to care any less
I don't agree. You could have not posted at all.
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your "seethrough point" is probably invalid.
the top pictures are with a game background
the bottom pictures are fog of war
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On December 27 2011 22:47 Odal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On December 27 2011 22:27 Odal wrote:On December 27 2011 22:09 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too. Wait , these are blizzard alternatives. Not to mention you can't be a pro with those games and make money. I would love to play bw or wc3 all day but it's not logical. Almost everyone moved to starcraft 2. It's actually a very bad thing that sc2 is the only competitive rts atm. Unless you're trying to go pro, the fact that it's possible to make money doing something is probably the worst reason to choose a hobby. If you'd rather be playing WC3 or BW all day, you can still find people to give you competetive matches in either of those games. I am trying to go pro. And I hate the fact that the only possible rts to play to do so is sc2. No competition can lead to them making retarded decisions and getting away with it.
That makes no sense. Why would you want to professionally play a game that is so bad that you'd rather not be playing it? Playing a video game for a living is the sort of thing you do if you're madly passionate about the game. There are plenty of jobs you can get that are less time consuming and better compensated (on average) than pro gaming, and you'd still have hours and hours a day to devote to a game you enjoy.
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This is the lamest thing I've ever seen anyone complain about.
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And feel free to add your own if you find something. Well, I can't help myself. 
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On December 27 2011 23:16 AmericanUmlaut wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:47 Odal wrote:On December 27 2011 22:31 AmericanUmlaut wrote:On December 27 2011 22:27 Odal wrote:On December 27 2011 22:09 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too. Wait , these are blizzard alternatives. Not to mention you can't be a pro with those games and make money. I would love to play bw or wc3 all day but it's not logical. Almost everyone moved to starcraft 2. It's actually a very bad thing that sc2 is the only competitive rts atm. Unless you're trying to go pro, the fact that it's possible to make money doing something is probably the worst reason to choose a hobby. If you'd rather be playing WC3 or BW all day, you can still find people to give you competetive matches in either of those games. I am trying to go pro. And I hate the fact that the only possible rts to play to do so is sc2. No competition can lead to them making retarded decisions and getting away with it. That makes no sense. Why would you want to professionally play a game that is so bad that you'd rather not be playing it? Playing a video game for a living is the sort of thing you do if you're madly passionate about the game. There are plenty of jobs you can get that are less time consuming and better compensated (on average) than pro gaming, and you'd still have hours and hours a day to devote to a game you enjoy.
you obviously havent spent any time trying to go pro. Having some menu windows transparent and some opaque makes it almost impossible. Dont even get me started on the random use of bold text.
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interesting find, but Blizzard may just be mixing it up to keep everything fresh 
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