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On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too.
Wait , these are blizzard alternatives.
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On December 27 2011 22:06 Cyro wrote:It took people 18 months to notice
I actually noticed this when they patched in hotkey editing. It just took me this long to find some time to take some screenshots and write up a post about it.
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My enjoyment of Starcraft 2 is completely ruined now. I'm never touching the game again.
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Well this completly changes the way I view the game. Thanks.
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On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1.
I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything.
The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money.
You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums.
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On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums.
nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible.
Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete.
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On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible.
By 'people like me', you mean people who actually enjoy the game instead of incessantly whining about it? I don't get what you are getting at, of course they are trying to make money, did you expect them to give you the game for free?
Starcraft is by far the best value for money game I've bought. I'm sorry you can't join in the fun.
Edit: Yes I know it has its problems, and I know some of these problems should be very obvious to blizzard and I can't explain why they haven't fixed them. Doesn't mean the game isn't good.
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-May be they put "Accept" in lowercase so it would fit into that box.
-The frame isn't necessarily race themed. That's a little presumptuous of you.
-There's a difference between "close" and "accept." It says "accept" when there are changes to be made to the game like graphics and hotkeys; "close" when there no changes to be made.
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I guess you're studying graphic design or something similar, so you notice these little things and get annoyed, but believe me, 99,9% of people don't give a damn xD
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On December 27 2011 22:17 Ryder. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. By 'people like me', you mean people who actually enjoy the game instead of incessantly whining about it? I don't get what you are getting at, of course they are trying to make money, did you expect them to give you the game for free? Starcraft is by far the best value for money game I've bought. I'm sorry you can't join in the fun.
One thing, first. We are behind a computer, but that doesn't mean there should be no respects between us. When I said "people like you" I didn't mean to attack you personally. Just the way you think about the game  .
No, that's the not the problem. I'm whining because I know I could have had more. Don't say me that game is complete. I don't care about portraits\achievement and so on. I would exchange everything they made (but the league system) for the features given by SC1.
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On December 27 2011 22:06 Cyro wrote:It took people 18 months to notice
because there were other glaring mistakes, like not colored icons, or red flame icon instead of blue flame icon.
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On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete.
Why are you posting in the SC2 section of this forum? If you dont like the game, stay away from it. There is a lot of people here that love the game, even if it have had a few "flaws".
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On December 27 2011 22:20 aderum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete. Why are you posting in the SC2 section of this forum? If you dont like the game, stay away from it. There is a lot of people here that love the game, even if it have had a few "flaws".
I never said I don't like the game. Still flaming me? I'm just saying that game is incomplete. That's ALL. and if you refuse to notice that you are probably blind (on your view about Starcraft)
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Good OP, things like this irk me.
Blizzard games are usually highly polished. I've not enjoyed Bnet 2.0 + SC2 UI since it's release.
Of course it doesn't affect game play.
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On December 27 2011 22:18 AndAgain wrote:
-May be they put "Accept" in lowercase so it would fit into that box.
-The frame isn't necessarily race themed. That's a little presumptuous of you.
-There's a difference between "close" and "accept." It says "accept" when there are changes to be made to the game like graphics and hotkeys; "close" when there no changes to be made.
My problem is not the usage of "accept" vs "close". It's the fact the word "CLOSE" is in all upper case, while the word "Accept" isn't. This is inconsistent. Either make all those buttons use upper-case or make them all use lower-case.
When I pointed out the usage of "Accept" it was being compared to the same hotkey screen in the B.net lobby, where "OK" is used instead. Either use "OK" everywhere, or use "Accept" everywhere, it's inconsistent to use "OK" in one version of the hotkey screen, but to use "Accept" in another version of the same screen.
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This warranted a thread? And the title led me to believe it was the ingame UI that had effects on gameplay, not the Menus, Settings tabs, Fonts and crap...
Thanks for misleading.
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On December 27 2011 22:09 Sergio1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:08 ilovelings wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. . Starcraft1 and Warcraft3 come to mind. Dota is fun too. Wait , these are blizzard alternatives.
Not to mention you can't be a pro with those games and make money. I would love to play bw or wc3 all day but it's not logical. Almost everyone moved to starcraft 2. It's actually a very bad thing that sc2 is the only competitive rts atm.
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On December 27 2011 22:19 Sergio1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:17 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. By 'people like me', you mean people who actually enjoy the game instead of incessantly whining about it? I don't get what you are getting at, of course they are trying to make money, did you expect them to give you the game for free? Starcraft is by far the best value for money game I've bought. I'm sorry you can't join in the fun. One thing, first. We are behind a computer, but that doesn't mean there should be no respects between us. When I said "people like you" I didn't mean to attack you personally. Just the way you think about the game . No, that's the not the problem. I'm whining because I know I could have had more. Don't say me that game is complete. I don't care about portraits\achievement and so on. I would exchange everything they made (but the league system) for the features given by SC1.
Trust me I know the game isn't complete, and there are a few simple things that Blizzard could do and fix that would go a long way. But everything is relative, you could always 'have more' but IMO I don't understand why your argument is justified when Blizzard do make some of the best quality games out there. Whilst it would be nice for things to be perfect, you need to put things in perspective. And when you compare Blizzard to companies such as Activision and EA, they are miles ahead in terms of quality. But you can't expect them to compete with these companies if they put in all this work and don't ask for money (i.e expansions)
On December 27 2011 22:22 Sergio1992 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 22:20 aderum wrote:On December 27 2011 22:14 Sergio1992 wrote:On December 27 2011 22:12 Ryder. wrote:On December 27 2011 21:52 Sergio1992 wrote:
Game is still in beta,even if it is sold as a complete game. There is no alternative to starcraft on rts gaming, or I would surely have taken one. The fact that you gotta pay for three different sets to see a story being developed already explains how much blizzard care about you.And trust me, they will cost 60 bucks each. I don't know what happened to blizzard, but they became different from the society I remember made starcraft 1. I can't believe people are so petty and willing to whine about absolutely everything. The business model for games has seem to evolved to either subscription based games or pumping out new expansions/DLC whenever they can. This also annoys the shit out of me, when the games are bad.. SC2 campaign was much longer than HEAPS of other game's campaigns, PLUS you get unlimited multiplayer with no subscriptions, and a dedicated team who after a year and a half after release still work on bug fixes, balance tweaks as well as more content (GM league, their 3 official custom games, new portraits/achievements). Wings of Liberty is a full, complete game that has given me (and I'm sure plenty of the people on this board) HUNDREDS of hours of entertainment. If you wanted to go and see a movie, takes 2 hours and you pay $15. Yet you pay $60 for hundreds of hours of good entertainment and all you do is bitch cause you are going to have to fork out another $60 (unlikely it will be this high) for an expansion which will provide a new campaign + units? God damn it put shit in perspective. In Australia we pay ~$90 for most games, and I will gladly pay full price for the two upcoming expansions because it is worth my money. You realise why there is no alternative to starcraft in RTS gaming? Because it's the best RTS game around. Yeah the game isn't perfect, but if you think it is barely worth the $60 you paid for it then I am surprised you post on these forums. nice that you like to pay for a rushed\incomplete games. With people like you, I got no doubts about why industry is trying to drain customers as much as possible. Ah,edit: I never said I would have never paid for these games IF they were complete. Why are you posting in the SC2 section of this forum? If you dont like the game, stay away from it. There is a lot of people here that love the game, even if it have had a few "flaws". I never said I don't like the game. Still flaming me? I'm just saying that game is incomplete. That's ALL. and if you refuse to notice that you are probably blind (on your view about Starcraft)
Just thought I would quote this, I think you might be mistaking aderum for me lol just wanted to clear it up.
Edit: Also you never know, they might be fixing some of these issues you have a problem with in HOTS
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On December 27 2011 21:58 KalWarkov wrote:so much this. lol, you must be rly bored
Or the things that are important to him aren't important to you. Crazy notion huh?
As for your complaints I can see them, I also think I can see reasons for some of them. I'm not saying it's good design, but some of this is the way it is, not because they missed it, but because that's the option they chose.
1. When a picture is to be displayed on a frame they seem to add a black frame around that picture. It's possible they felt that a pic from the game sitting directly on top of a faded pic of the game would look messy.
2. The dropdown menu in the bottom right contains the possibility of user generated menu items. You can save and load and delete hotkey profiles and give them different names. It's the same font that they use for your account name and realid name.
These are the things that leap out at me but there might be more. It'd be interesting to hear from someone from Blizzard. Though I guess some of the answers would be "A different team worked on that." or "we didn't have time."
On December 27 2011 21:49 paralleluniverse wrote:
Blizzard, please fixed this inconsistent mess.
Your post would be better without the line quoted above. If you want to talk to Blizzard, go to the official forums. If you actually want an answer, try a little more humility and grammar.
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It is supposed to be so. Avantgard postmodern art you know?
Btw what's wrong with the chronoboosting thing Plexa mentioned?
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