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On December 21 2011 03:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2011 03:15 SupLilSon wrote:
Honestly, I watched SC2 Report once to see what it was and it didn't do much for me. I just wasn't thrilled about watching someone read TL threads and headlines to me. SOTG on the other hand is enjoyable because of it's cast of high profile casters and players. I likes the SC Center, before it was on MGL. But back then it was 6 minutes. Provided me with my SC2 news in 6 minutes on youtube and I will tune in every day. Make me go to the MGL website, I will never tune in.
Sorry pet peeve but it's MLG, not MGL.
On-topic: I won't miss any of the shows, as I didn't watch them. I spend a lot of time on TL so I don't need SC2 report to tell me anything, and !@#$ Slasher...well the name put me off already and I've heard Slasher a bit on LO3 and I didn't like it.
If most of these shows budgets go into the MLG events to expand membership benefits and event coverage then I'm happy for this rebudgeting
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I'd like to see a poll, 'which of these shows have you regularly watched?'
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Read this as "day9 cancels online show" because of the way it's lined up on the front page of sc2. wtf ><
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Slasher is an acquired taste ... Not the most natural broadcasting personality, but he's willing to raise the issues and questions that most broadcasters are too chummy, politically correct or chicken shit to ask. Gonna miss that.
Only real knock against Slasher is that he's a crummy drunk.
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On December 21 2011 01:10 jtp118 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 17:55 dacthehork wrote:
Slasher never really seem informed about any scene besides maybe quake. He would skim the latest drama thread or read some results but there where a lot of times he simply flat out said the wrong things. One of the worst ever was when he said he "understood korean culture" and the sc esports team blah blah I talk to __________ reporter from _____. Then he went on to completely make a fool of himself as he applied western culture directly to korea with the TSL fiasco. Slasher gets stuff wrong all the time, it shows he looks it up but is not "into" many of the scenes he tries to cover. this is precisely correct; i've watched Slasher on the MLG FAQ, F Slasher, and LO3 ... he knows almost nothing about the Halo scene (which is where i started with esports), and even less about the SC2 scene. he doesn't really seem to put in the effort, and is extremely annoying (imo), in terms of presentation and interviewing style
That's just honestly not true. Quake is the game that I play at a high level, but I am informed and up to date regarding the competitive scenes of all the other games, most notably Starcraft 2. I watch every tournament for every game, and make sure to factcheck, research and talk to the players, teams, leagues and journalists to get a full perspective of a situation. I try my hardest to be knowledgeable in the things I talk about, and I believe I have done so on the shows I have written and produced. While I may not be as 'into' the LoL/Halo scenes for instance, I watch the tournaments, do my homework and talk to people. Sometimes I get things wrong but I try to own up to my mistakes when I do so.
The name of my show is admittedly terrible, and one of the worst ideas I've had. Sorry about that!
The final airing of SC Report and !@#$ Slasher will be today. Will have Open Phones and some special guests, so if you've never tuned in before, or want to show us a send-off, tune in at http://www.MLG.tv at 5 PM EST.
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You had to go and ruin it with Open Phones :/
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Whats wrong with open phones?
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chances of getting on, slim to none lol
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SoTG is a "MLG show" now? what a fucking joke
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On December 21 2011 05:58 smallerk wrote:
SoTG is a "MLG show" now? what a fucking joke
Its been a mlg show for months...
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What's with the circlejerk? Of course the people who watched the shows regularly and enjoyed them will be in uproar about this, but keep in mind the thousands of people who dunno what this even entails, nevertheless care about it.
Think beyond yourselves, guys. :X
EDIT: I wish to emphasise that I did watch F Slasher occassionally, and did enjoy the casual yet informative atmosphere, and above all, interaction with fans. So, no, it's not a haters gonna hate case, but sometimes all of us need to zoom out.  Peace xoxo
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On December 20 2011 06:07 Duravi wrote:
The fact that one of their own employees leaked all this info and they haven't made any statement makes them look incompetent.
Err I guess every company that's ever done layoffs that made the news is incompetent then since it's almost ALWAYS leaked to the media by an employee before the company makes an official statement. But hey, go on believing what you want.
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Final shows going live in just a few minutes
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Final shows going live in just a few minutes
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On December 21 2011 05:58 smallerk wrote:
SoTG is a "MLG show" now? what a fucking joke
how long have you been living under that rock?
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Companies have layoffs for several reasons, and many rebound later. I won't cite examples because it's such a common occurrence that I would say it's commonplace. However, that said, generally companies that are not yet profitable perform layoffs for one of three reasons:
1) To preserve cash - If you're not profitable or barely profitable, the amount of cash you have equates very directly to how long you can keep the doors open. It's just a math problem. Could be MLG is just stocking up for the slow season and will hire many of them back once they get closer to the 2012 season
2) To be more cash positive for Investors - Companies, particularly new ones, do this all the time to increase shareholder equity either just before a new round of investments, or before they are about to be acquired. I'm not saying MLG is getting a new round of VC or is being acquired, I'm just stating this is one of the reasons why companies have layoffs. Layoffs at the end of the year make balance sheets look good because it gives a temporary boost to perceived cash position going into the next fiscal year.
3) Business Re-organization - For many startups, they hire as fast as they can for critical positions, and later come back and revisit who is working out and who isn't. Since layoffs are easier than firings (and less likely to result in wrongful termination suits), many companies take their lowest performing employees and do a round of layoffs. It makes them look good to their shareholders, it cleans out the low-performers and saves some short term cash until those positions need to be refilled, hopefully by better-performing personnel.
About the only thing that's certain about a layoff is that it means that MLG is not making money hand over fist right now, but that shouldn't really be news to anybody as the entire eSports industry is in its infancy and no organization except perhaps GSL is really raking in the profits right now.
So I wish those who recently departed MLG a speedy re-entry into the workforce, and the rest of you Happy Holidays.
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That's too bad about F!^%& Slasher it was the most professional show in e-sports. Slasher actually researched and asked the right questions, unlike a lot of others who seem to just wing it.
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On December 20 2011 17:05 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 16:44 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 16:43 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 16:35 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 16:27 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 16:16 dreamsmasher wrote:On December 20 2011 16:14 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 16:00 Spicy_Curry wrote:On December 20 2011 15:51 jmbthirteen wrote:On December 20 2011 15:43 dreamsmasher wrote:
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why not. there is a pretty good balance of opinion on sotg tbh.
Why are you comparing sotg to fuck slasher? They arent geared toward the same thing. Fuck slasher is more news focused while sotg is more game focused. SotG doesnt discuss the game anymore. Where have you been? They cover the news and upcoming tournaments. The closest thing that they ever get to discussing the game is Brood War. I said game, not game play. They talk tournaments and thats pretty much it. They talk news when its a huge story, but thats it. Fuck slasher and sotg are very different shows. And sure plenty of people can do it, but they dont and they dont have the appeal of slasher. Like it or not, he is a polarizing character that people like to watch. And he actually comes at it from a journalistic standpoint, something that is badly needed in the community. Personally i would love to see slasher go indie like chobopeon so his hands arent tied at all, but i understand that doesnt pay the bills like MLG does. well numbers prove you're wrong considering if he had the numbers to back his show, then he wouldn't be getting canceled right? not sure this 'appeal' comes from either. he doesn't offer any good insight, not really any good questions, is kind of awkward, and isn't even all that visually appealing (no homo). again why is he relevant. oh yea '10 years experience in the esports scene'. You realize your opinion of him isnt the opinion of everyone right? Why does Bill Simmons have appeal? Slasher does offer vreat insight because he often has the scoop on news stories in esports. Stop looking at this as an analytical thing and look at it as a journalistical standpoint. can't take your post seriously with the word journalistical in it. can't ignore that irony. JOURNALISTICAL STANDPOINT guys. rebecca black made a lot of money via itunes, mw3 sold more copies than sc2 + hos + heart of the void probably wll sell together doesn't mean any of the aforementioned subjects are any good at their respective fields. in fact they're pretty trash. And attacking a typo, running out of arguments? And once again, just because you think something is trash doesnt make it trash. You said slasher had no appeal when he clearly does, and so does cod. a typo is when you misspell a word, you genuinely thought that journalistical was a word. So not only do you represent the opinion of everyone in the community, you also know what i meant to post. Clearly i didnt mean journalistic, because its not like i said it earlier in this thread. Im sorry i work 50-60 hours a week and get tired. Slasher would get more views than most pros. He shouldnt because more emphasis needs to be on the players but thats another topic. And once again you are assuming the show got canceled due to lack of viewership. We dont know this. We do know mlg will be putting out more gaming content next year taking up their resources and broadcast time. And slasher already made it on his own. Its why he is popular today. Do you think he only has a following because he works for mlg?
journalistic is a word journalistical isn't. your continued bungling just further proves my point.
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chobo looks/act pretty pissed
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