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Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
On December 16 2011 05:10 Chill wrote: Whoops! We changed the prizes and didn't tell anyone! Sorry guys! -_- Edit: Of course I mean GOM. Yeah... totally stupid. I feel bad for Naniwa. All he wanted was to not play a meaningless match and now he got fucked, and the rules got switched on him. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13429 Posts
It makes sense and if MLG doesn't seem outraged and says its within GOM's right to change the way the seeds work (so long as there are still seeds) then there must have been a clause in their deal (contract or whatever) so that the seeds dont need to be for GSL but for a GOMtv run SC2 tournament Also, in EGAlex's blog about the naniwa incident he says idra was invited as a seed into GSL 2012 tournament well in advance of blizzcup even starting. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
In any case it seems quite ironic to punish someone for being unprofessional while you yourself are changing ongoing deals without noticing your partner, MLG, or the players involved. Or anyone else for that matter. | ||
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Trsjnica
United States477 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:07 Govou wrote: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=940944&board=0&category=13438&subcategory=&page=4&best=&searchmode=title&search=&orderby=&token= Whoa, interesting (after Google translate). | ||
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:05 Moralez wrote: You guys gonna fuck up the relationship between GOM and MLG then no more koreans at MLGs, keep this bullshit drama going. Can't you just MOVE ON ? No. Most Korean players don't even come through the exchange system anymore and IPL/MLG are gonna be HUGE in 2012. There is too much money for them to win too not come. Stop thinking GOM is sacred, I wouldn't be amazed if their popularity is gonna decrease in 2012 if MLG and IPL live up to the expectations. | ||
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Romulox
United States125 Posts
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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:08 HappyChris wrote: Thats wrong. Interviews with losira and Violet sayd they were comming to get a code S spot so stop making up bullshit I also recall Tastosis while casting hyped the code s spot | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
tired of this drawn out drama | ||
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BaekHo
Korea (South)153 Posts
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:04 magnaflow wrote: Sure MLG is willing to pay to have them come over, but will Korean teams allow ther players to go? We all seen what happened with the NASL, we all know how sensetive the Koreans can be. BW may still be the game of choice in Korea but for how long? Eventually BW and Kespa are going to switch over. We already know that some teams are starting the transition. We need the Koreans more then they need us and they know that. Which is why they have the capability to change rules to benefit themselves. IMO Korean players/teams don't like naniwa because of what happened at MLG, this is GOM's excuse to make those teams happy. ummm, yes, the korean teams will let their players come over. NASL wasn't willing to pay them enough (except for a decent stipend the koreans thumbed their noses at), and that is why koreans didn't participate. there is no reason to think that koreans wont come if MLG pays the full amount of travel. we don't need the koreans; we want the koreans. and koreans are hurting for money in sc2 more than non-korean teams, so they don't get to do whatever they want. your conspiracy theories about naniwa and mlg are unfounded. | ||
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Trsjnica
United States477 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:10 simmeh wrote: 2012 cant start soon enough ~_~ tired of this drawn out drama I don't want 2012 yet--I want to see DRG vs MMA, and some awesome up & down games first  | ||
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breadcat
Germany45 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
GOMTV: It seems like a lot of people have been under the impression that NaNiWa has received a Code S seed for taking 2nd place at MLG Providence. The truth however is that NaNiWa has received the right to compete in the Blizzard Cup for his 2nd place achievement at MLG Providence. We have introduced our new format for the 2012 GSL Tour a while ago, which includes changes to the way international seeds are being given out. Since we have not explained these changes to the seeds in detail yet, this misunderstanding seems to have arisen. This is what MLG says: With the announcement of the 2012 GSL season, their format changed and GSL changed the MLG Providence Code S invite to two spots at the GSL Blizzard Cup and Naniwa was awarded one of these spots. Unfortunately, the change was made without notification to MLG but it is within GSL's jurisdiction to adjust placement. This is just wrong on so many levels: 1. You don't tell your biggest partner that you plan to change your whole tournament and how the seeds work. 2. You don't inform the players involved about these changes. 3. You don't inform the community about these changes. 4. You want to have the image as a professional organisation in Korea with years of experience, yet you fail to honour basic business principles. What Naniwa did was wrong but this is actually worse. Naniwa is just single player who made a mistake, and should be punished for it (The punishment could be discussed though). GOMTV is a huge company with a lot of employees with many years of experience in eSports - to do like this is really bad. For me this is really disrespectful, especially to MLG that has done so much for the eSpots community in the Western World. If I were GOMTV I would publically apologize to MLG and the community as soon as possible. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:08 Treemonkeys wrote: Since before the website changed? I don't think it's there now, but it was still MLG promoting every time they had a tournament. Can we look at what GOM actually promised? Does anyone have that? http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291 edit: "At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status. Code A status will be awarded to the next 3 highest placing non-Korean players. If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player." | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:08 ELA wrote: Korean players arent owned by GOM, like under Kespa... If its worthwhile for Koreans to come to foreign tournaments, they are completely free to do so Yeah what about non koreans going into korea to compete in code A or code S? | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 16 2011 06:11 [17]Purple wrote: I see it as GOM doing something completely legal and something they can do with their power, at the same time however it is also very unethical and unprofessional thing to do. This really reminds me of something that I really can't put my finger on... Haha, wellplayed sir | ||
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Fungal Growth
United States434 Posts
Source: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/official-mlg-statement-regarding-the-naniwa-code-s-issue The original agreement between MLG and GSL through the League Exchange Program (LXP) stated that the highest ranked player in the Top 3 from each MLG Pro Circuit event in 2011, including Providence, who did not already have Code S status would be granted Code S status at GSL for one season. With the recently announced changes to the 2012 GSL season, GSL switched the MLG Providence Code S invite to two spots at the GSL Blizzard Cup. Naniwa was awarded one of these spots. Unfortunately, the change was made without notification to MLG, but it is within GSL's jurisdiction to adjust placement. | ||
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