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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:36 onedayclose wrote: I think the Korean Weekly should be open only to players who are currently not in GSL code S. Any particular reason? Code S players have not dominated the tournament at any point and both Finals were won by Code B players. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
This tournament is best as a 100% open event. It is literally the only chance we have of seeing the lesser known Code B Koreans compete. There is plenty of Code S level stuff with the GSL and every major tournament inviting the big korean names nowadays. But I watch this event to see the up-and-comers. I watch because I want a glimpse into the Korean scene that most don't know about. The play is still some of the highest level you can find. These guys are still good enough to take games off of Code Sers. Fully open is not a big deal in this format. You guys cast from replays. You're selecting the matches you want to broadcast. So that means you don't need to worry about the first few rounds if 500 people signup. Just ignore the players no one has heard of and lose immediately and broadcast the ones we want to see. This really will give a chance for some of the lesser known Koreans to make a name for themselves. IMO the more players the better here. I know it gets infinitely harder to organize, but it really is something that Korean scene needs and the viewers would love. Also, I like that orb- character. He's pretty good. | ||
Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:36 Diamond wrote: True. One concept I was thinking of was Master/GM on Korea only and start casting in the Round of 32 or 64. Not sure tho, just thoughts. I think that sounds really good. I REALLY like the idea of fully open tournaments. Also, the idea of seeding into foreign tournaments is much more attractive to me as opposed to GSL Code S, because you will never get rid of that conflict of interest where Code B players have SO much more on the line. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On December 20 2011 15:05 Adebisi wrote: I think that sounds really good. I REALLY like the idea of fully open tournaments. Also, the idea of seeding into foreign tournaments is much more attractive to me as opposed to GSL Code S, because you will never get rid of that conflict of interest where Code B players have SO much more on the line. Seeding into foreign LANs doesn't work. Whose going to pay for their travel expenses? Korean teams certainly can't afford to. If they could they would send their best players, not the Code Bers. Seeding into online foreign tournaments could work though. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 20 2011 15:00 DoomsVille wrote: Whatever you do, do not make it an invite-only or semi-open event. This tournament is best as a 100% open event. It is literally the only chance we have of seeing the lesser known Code B Koreans compete. There is plenty of Code S level stuff with the GSL and every major tournament inviting the big korean names nowadays. But I watch this event to see the up-and-comers. I watch because I want a glimpse into the Korean scene that most don't know about. The play is still some of the highest level you can find. These guys are still good enough to take games off of Code Sers. Fully open is not a big deal in this format. You guys cast from replays. You're selecting the matches you want to broadcast. So that means you don't need to worry about the first few rounds if 500 people signup. Just ignore the players no one has heard of and lose immediately and broadcast the ones we want to see. This really will give a chance for some of the lesser known Koreans to make a name for themselves. IMO the more players the better here. I know it gets infinitely harder to organize, but it really is something that Korean scene needs and the viewers would love. Also, I like that orb- character. He's pretty good. Actually totally open (or something like Masters.GM only) is actually easier. On December 20 2011 15:13 DoomsVille wrote: Seeding into foreign LANs doesn't work. Whose going to pay for their travel expenses? Korean teams certainly can't afford to. If they could they would send their best players, not the Code Bers. Seeding into online foreign tournaments could work though. The idea would be find LAN's that would take care of that. Lots do, and lots want Koreans so it seems like a good fit. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On December 20 2011 15:16 Diamond wrote: Actually totally open (or something like Masters.GM only) is actually easier. The idea would be find LAN's that would take care of that. Lots do, and lots want Koreans so it seems like a good fit. From a foreign LAN perspective, wouldn't it make more sense for them to just invite a top level Code S korean? Although I guess if travel/expenses for a top LAN is up for grabs you'll get the Code S players coming out anyways. If you can convince organizers to do so, that would definitely be the very best way to go IMO. | ||
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Adebisi
Canada1637 Posts
On December 20 2011 15:24 DoomsVille wrote: From a foreign LAN perspective, wouldn't it make more sense for them to just invite a top level Code S korean? Although I guess if travel/expenses for a top LAN is up for grabs you'll get the Code S players coming out anyways. If you can convince organizers to do so, that would definitely be the very best way to go IMO. Its more or less the same idea as IPL4 using I44 or PPSL as qualifiers. For example Homestory Cup could have used the Weekly instead of running their own qualifier. Dual purpose. As for why use a Korean qualifier instead of using an invite system, its more merit based, nuff said. I hope more tournaments expand to this type of model because just using the popularity contest of an invite system is unfair and doesn't help promote talent development as much. | ||
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
On December 17 2011 12:36 onedayclose wrote: I think the Korean Weekly should be open only to players who are currently not in GSL code S. somehow i agree with this just look how many win by Taeja -"- | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On December 20 2011 19:29 Adebisi wrote: Its more or less the same idea as IPL4 using I44 or PPSL as qualifiers. For example Homestory Cup could have used the Weekly instead of running their own qualifier. Dual purpose. As for why use a Korean qualifier instead of using an invite system, its more merit based, nuff said. I hope more tournaments expand to this type of model because just using the popularity contest of an invite system is unfair and doesn't help promote talent development as much. Oh I agree a qualification system is much better. I'd rather invites go away and everything be qualification based. But invites are just easier (which is why most tournaments use invites). Although ESV has proven they can produce quality online tournaments without running into issues like the PPSL, so that should work in their favor. I do hope this works out. If some major events agree to this, it will be the best way to go. | ||
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
 or am i wrong? | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On December 21 2011 03:02 parazice wrote: somehow i agree with this just look how many win by Taeja -"- hint hint taeja isn't code S. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 21 2011 03:02 parazice wrote: somehow i agree with this just look how many win by Taeja -"- Not only is Taeja not in Code S, but his winning streak started when he was in Code B. | ||
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FreudianTrip
Switzerland1983 Posts
On December 21 2011 04:54 GoSuChicken wrote: I like it, but the problem is, that ill never be able to catch your tourney, cause i think its quite bad for europeans or am i wrong? Shit's so awesome I stay up anyway. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On December 21 2011 04:54 GoSuChicken wrote: I like it, but the problem is, that ill never be able to catch your tourney, cause i think its quite bad for europeans or am i wrong? Although our main demographic is NA (and the most important views to us) we do have some plans for rebroadcasts. It's a bit of a manpower issue atm. | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
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