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NaNiwa-GOM Controversy General Thread - Page 3
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We understand this is an issue that has led to a lot of opinions. Please remember above all to keep the discussion respectful and on topic. - This thread is specifically about NaNiwa and GOM and the controversy that occurred between them. It is not about IdrA and Sen in Code S, nor is it about any other players or tournaments. Pleas discuss that here. - This thread is not about the merits of the Blizzard Cup structure, or GOM's foreigner invite system. Please discuss that here. - Finally, this thread is not about Korean culture, Swedish culture, or any other ethnicity or group of people. Keep racism and cultural stereotypes out of this thread. Responsibility for keeping a thread constructive is primarily yours. Please keep that in mind. | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
"We Starcraft King. We right. Problem ?" User was warned for this post | ||
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Moxi
708 Posts
But to be honest I don't get this obsession with esport players personalities ...I mean, who the hell care that much? Just play the game how it's meant to be. Sure it's fun, but not like we need them to be faking a match to play each other etc if it's not real. #JUSTSAYIN | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12759382 | ||
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:06 Paladia wrote: So you are saying that the official GOM partner that handles out the foreign Code S spots made a mistake when they gave out the spot, which they publically announced two months ago, and GOM didn't notice until now? It's not even possible that something like that could happen. And even if it did happen, it is hardly the player who should take the fall for it. No, I'm saying that you don't know the real story and neither do I. There's two parties who know the full story: MLG and GomTV. While MLG stated that Naniwa earned a Code S spot, Gom states otherwise. In response, MLG says they are looking into the matter. Yet, you assume that MLG is right and that Gom is making stuff up. My point had NOTHING to do with GomTV or MLG. It had to do with TLers talking about stuff that they really don't know anything about. You are the prime example of why a simple misunderstanding has escalated into 300+ pages of nonsense on the forums. | ||
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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MildSeven
Canada311 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:17 JimSocks wrote: Does this mean mlg-gomtv exchange is over? The exchange was over since November season because of season extension. | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:15 Eee wrote: I think this post by Waxangel should be in the OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12759382 Wow, GOM really needs to adress this issue. And no, their "we changed the tournament system without telling anyone"-explanation in their announcement doesn't cut it. | ||
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Gaga
Germany433 Posts
it's all about professionalism. i never saw a professional sportsmatch where something like this happened. there are even televised firendly matches in football..... i watch em sometimes. and i guess thats why koreans are so much more angry. We still see it much more as hobby... not a real profession like they do. It's all about being Pro. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
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OblivionMage
Canada377 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:15 Eee wrote: I think this post by Waxangel should be in the OP: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12759382 Seems as though GOM just makes up rules to suit them, whenever they feel like it. | ||
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ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
Looks like we know have a new controversy regarding Code S spots....... | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 15 2011 07:19 grobo wrote: Wow, GOM really needs to adress this issue. And no, their "we changed the tournament system without telling anyone"-explanation in their announcement doesn't cut it. I agree completely. | ||
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Deleted User 137586
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GOM did release the graph with international seeds a long time ago, just didn't explain it. People guessed it would be MLG seeds. But note what Waxangel wrote about it: "The Up-Down Seeds of Mystery In professional athletics, a rule is sometimes named after a player who had a key part to play in its creation. For instance, in NBA, a new salary rule was once made so that the Boston Celtics could keep their iconic hero Larry Bird, and this rule became known as the "Bird Exception." Similarly, we might come to call the two direct foreigner seeds into the Up-Down Matches the "Idra Seeds." Though it's not exactly public policy, GomTV has been pretty transparent over the years about their desire to get stars at all costs. Well then, who's a bigger star than Idra? Considering that they pull a considerable amount of revenue from foreign subscriptions, you can't blame them for seemingly creating this rule solely for the soon-back-in-Korea Grack Fields. Mr.Chae has wanted Idra back in GSL from the moment he left (at a chance run-in at the Columbus airport, "so when are you coming back to Korea?" was one of the first things he asked him), and now that he's there, it's time to rush him back into Code-S. So now that I'm 99% sure that Idra holds the first seed, the question is who gets the other? It seems kind of strange to give DeMuslim a spot, when the more proven Sase and Naniwa are stuck with ordinary old Code-A seeds. There's no one else in Korea who immediately seems like a good fit, but the Up-Down Matches are over a month away. By that time, who knows what worthy foreigner challengers could be in Korea?" Note, these seeds aren't described as "do X and get seed", but rather they are flexible slots to insert foreign players that do not/cannot runt he gauntlet that is Korean laddering->Code B-> Code A. Edit: Before anyone says that I mixed up seeds, there are three ambiguous "seeds" in the graph: code A, up and downs and Code S. | ||
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
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pAzand
Sweden539 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:00 pAzand wrote: Okey, it's bugging me that twitter doesn't work, what did Jinro say? LorangerChris Chris Loranger @ @LiquidJinro ahh ok just 1 season wat are ur thoughts pumpkin 12 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply in reply to @LorangerChris ↑ @LiquidJinro Jonathan Walsh @LorangerChris Too much. He should pay a fine/deduction of winnings, not this. 12 hours ago via web | ||
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hesho89
Canada106 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:14 hesho89 wrote: out of all this, i feel bad for quantic gaming. I feel kinda bad that they get some bad press from this. I am a bit curious what Naniwa will do now though. With the MLG format change as well, how will he try and qualify for the GSL now? through the standard qualifications like every other person in korea, i imagine. | ||
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Tehs Tehklz
United States330 Posts
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