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I think we all were happy when GOM decided to get more foreigners into GSL, with the alotted "4 spots" that was presented before haypro, ret, moonglade and huk got their initial invites. However, there were always questionmarks, how was these players decided? Why werent other players with more skill chosen? But who cared, foreigners were playing against koreans in korea and it was all very exciting!
Since then alot of things have happened though, alot of foreigners go to korea and are seeded in code a based on nothing at all, others come 15th in MLG and then go 2-3 months later.. since there seems to be no agreement of wich GSL you go to when doing well at MLG. Now most lately Morrow gets a free spot based on "his accomplishments in SC2" or something like that. We were many that were glad when MLG and GSL started cooperationg, it seemed that all this randomness would end and that the players getting seeds would be deserving of them. This didn't happen. We are still in the seat we were a year ago and GSL seems less and less professional and more and more desperate to get foreigners. Alot of players go there, compete in code a, qualify for next months tournament and then leave.. it seems like theres no planning from GSL at all.
Now gom have invented a rule that lets them kick out Naniwa because they say he only wants money, and is not professional. This is completely based on the korean netizens reactions, and has nothing to do with what happened in the game. If korean players and netizens would have laughed at it as a stupid thing to do, gom wouldnt have taken Naniwas code-s spot away from him. In other words, noone knew the ruling before the reaction from the korean netizens.. this is the definition of being unprofessional. Inventing rules/interpreting them as wanted to comply to what some fans want.
More skill, less arbitrary popularity contests. please.
PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST, NOT JUST THE PART ABOUT NANIWA
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If a Korean did it, he would be finished.
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I dont understand why every1 is so shocked over this. We saw that there were 2 foreign code S invites when they showed us the new system and everyone loved it then.
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i think ur assuming here. u mentioned that GOM invented a rule but i'm pretty sure they had given players a briefing regarding their tournament rules, but dont quote me on that
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Lets take into consideration the most recent game ruining claims..
Choya Ladder fixing
Byun/Coca conspiracy to push ESV to a game 3 when coca won 2-0
What happened to them
Yes.... arbitrary popularity contests..
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What GOM giveth, so too GOM shall taketh away. Coca and Rain lost their code S spots for 'unprofessional behavior' so it's not like we didn't know the rule didn't exist.
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Foreigners shouldnt be babied and get special treatment. If a korean programer did what nani did they would have a much harsher punoshment. Nani is pretty lucky.
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Lol swedish bias. Maybe you should read up on details before saying bullshit here. They didn't invent any rules, those rules were there from the start. Nobody forced Naniwa to come to Korea of be a part of Blizzcup and GSL. If he wants to play there he needs to abide by their rules.
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On December 14 2011 20:13 baoluvboa wrote:
If a Korean did it, he would be finished.
A korean would have been kicked off his team.
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This has been gone through many times now but some people actually pay to watch the games so no matter how insignificant the game is, you are still expected to play it rather than just throwing the game like that. Plus, it's their tournament so GOM had the right to punish Naniwa.
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On December 14 2011 20:16 Candide wrote:
Lets take into consideration the most recent game ruining claims..
Choya Ladder fixing
Byun/Coca conspiracy to push ESV to a game 3 when coca won 2-0
What happened to them
Yes.... arbitrary popularity contests..
Those were like actual things wrong. What Nani did was BM at best and as far as I can tell there were no rules against probe rushing in the GSL.
And that still has nothing to do with how the invites are chosen.
edit- @ the guy above me: then write a rule stating so. If there was a rule in place, fine. If there wasn't, then IMO it's just wrong to arbitrarily ban a guy based on public reaction.
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On December 14 2011 20:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 20:13 baoluvboa wrote:
If a Korean did it, he would be finished. A korean would have been kicked off his team.
That's exactly what would have happened, and we have precedent. After seeing that, I'm convinced Naniwa still has some growing up to do.
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Your bias is showing. He deserved it.
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On December 14 2011 20:17 red4ce wrote:
What GOM giveth, so too GOM shall taketh away. Coca and Rain lost their code S spots for 'unprofessional behavior' so it's not like we didn't know the rule didn't exist.
What did Rain do... was it not show up to a match or something? I can't remember it was so long ago -_-
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Nice, now everybody makes an own thread for his opinion, which could easily be a post in one of the thousand other threads about this topic....
All for the e-fame.
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they didnt event a rule, they applied a rule within their rules to something naniwa did.
Im pretty sure nestea was offended, who wouldnt be.
Naniwa doesnt have enough respect to even play out a gaame with him in a tournament hes being paid to play in ? (he got 900 dollars for last place i beleive) that aint bad for losing 4 games.
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If you throw away a game, you are banned. It's in the rules from the beginning of the GSL and naniwa is supposed to know the rules, there is no point to qq.
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Naniwa played out that situation quite poorly. I don't agree with the punishment, but I will respect it. GOM is setting an example (which is pretty responsible of them) which I think that us foreigners should respect. You don't throw matches when you feel like it, you play the games, professionally.
I'll say it again, I am really bummed out about it, but I will come to accept it, and I think I will look back at this situation in a week or two and have come to the point that I will be thankful of GOM for setting an example. That you show respect to other people/gamers/fans etc.
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