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We understand this is an issue that has led to a lot of opinions. Please remember above all to keep the discussion respectful and on topic.

- This thread is specifically about NaNiwa and GOM and the controversy that occurred between them. It is not about IdrA and Sen in Code S, nor is it about any other players or tournaments. Pleas discuss that here.
- This thread is not about the merits of the Blizzard Cup structure, or GOM's foreigner invite system. Please discuss that here.
- Finally, this thread is not about Korean culture, Swedish culture, or any other ethnicity or group of people. Keep racism and cultural stereotypes out of this thread.

Responsibility for keeping a thread constructive is primarily yours. Please keep that in mind.
freetgy
Profile Joined November 2010
1720 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 21:58:46
December 14 2011 21:58 GMT
#21
may be this video proved gomtv that naniwa is bad mannered
http://www.youtube.com/user/teamliquidnet#p/search/0/rCfyW6EP9FQ

and therefore decided against him
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
December 14 2011 21:59 GMT
#22
This thread was a great idea until BOTH QxG and GOMTV made their own threads. We can't exactly close/combine those considering the content .

Holy_KR
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)43 Posts
December 14 2011 21:59 GMT
#23
Regardless of who's fault this whole drama is, people should just get over it, and stop hating. GOM is at fault for making a mistake, but they've done so much good for eSports then anyone else in this entire forum has done, Nani made a mistake for causing all this needless drama, and it's utterly stupid that people are attacking Korean culture in general for all of this.

I say who cares, eSports drama always starts because of something stupid, and it blows up because people feel the need to speak their mind on an issue all the time.

Just move on.
Jesus wept
Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:00:27
December 14 2011 21:59 GMT
#24
On December 15 2011 06:57 dAPhREAk wrote:

maybe MLG should come out and give their take on it. JP was careful not to speak on behalf of MLG during SOTG last night.


and next one topic about Naniwa shows up? I don't need read it
besides server coast money
hello
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:01:49
December 14 2011 22:00 GMT
#25
On December 15 2011 06:51 Paladia wrote:
Interestingly enough GOM are now making things up to save face, making me lose all respect for them. Naniwa earned a spot in Code S yet now they claim he didn't? Even the official MLG website says he earned a code S spot.

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension/

"Naniwa [..] earned a seat in Code S."


If there's one thing this entire debacle has shown me, it's that TLers love to jump to conclusions and go off of what they think they know. Continuously throughout the Naniwa incident, people's assumptions have been disproved as new information comes to light.

How do you know GomTV is making things up?

Maybe MLG made a mistake?

In fact, if you were keeping up with the latest developments, MLG_Lee stated TODAY that MLG was investigating the matter. MLG has yet to release their statement on this issue so let's refrain from making up stuff that may not be true.
Elfian
Profile Joined December 2011
United States28 Posts
December 14 2011 22:01 GMT
#26
Just one thing. Being unprofessional in a normal work place could get you fired too. I'm not sure if colleges say that they will not accept you after you have been accepted due to ill behavior etc, but there are cases if you throw your last semester in high school they do not accept you. (in the states)
Colyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1 Post
December 14 2011 22:01 GMT
#27
vast vast vast over reaction on GOM's part, IMO. the public anger is enough; taking away his code S spot is overkill.
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:02:13
December 14 2011 22:02 GMT
#28
Oh thank god. Been out of the city the past two weeks and missed everything.
When I looked at the recap of group b day one all they had was "9. Nestea > Naniwa: Yeah, whatever." Which doesn't help. At all.
Thank you very much tree.hugger.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
December 14 2011 22:02 GMT
#29
The only Part that we need now, is to know from the MLG side, wether there was an agreement, that there is no GSL Code S seed for providence results.
Until then every fuckin spoiled brat around here, should shut up and let the facts speak for themselves!
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
December 14 2011 22:02 GMT
#30
On December 15 2011 07:01 Colyo wrote:
vast vast vast over reaction on GOM's part, IMO. the public anger is enough; taking away his code S spot is overkill.


Read the OP first. According to Gom, Naniwa never had a Code S Spot to begin with.
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
December 14 2011 22:06 GMT
#31
On December 15 2011 07:00 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:51 Paladia wrote:
Interestingly enough GOM are now making things up to save face, making me lose all respect for them. Naniwa earned a spot in Code S yet now they claim he didn't? Even the official MLG website says he earned a code S spot.

http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension/

"Naniwa [..] earned a seat in Code S."


If there's one thing this entire debacle has shown me, it's that TLers love to jump to conclusions and go off of what they think they know. Continuously throughout the Naniwa incident, people's assumptions have been disproved as new information comes to light.

How do you know GomTV is making things up?

Maybe MLG made a mistake?

In fact, if you were keeping up with the latest developments, MLG_Lee stated TODAY that MLG was investigating the matter. MLG has yet to release their statement on this issue so let's refrain from making up stuff that may not be true.

So you are saying that the official GOM partner that handles out the foreign Code S spots made a mistake when they gave out the spot, which they publically announced two months ago, and GOM didn't notice until now? It's not even possible that something like that could happen. And even if it did happen, it is hardly the player who should take the fall for it.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
December 14 2011 22:07 GMT
#32
DoA has become so wise
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
December 14 2011 22:09 GMT
#33
On December 15 2011 06:53 fantomex wrote:
Thank you OT for actually describing what happened, which none of the TL front page stories or statements by related parties bothered to do.

TL.net is very poorly designed site. You guys have no business criticizing the MLG site (although MLG is still worse).

I don't how you manage to be completely inaccessible to casual fans over a period of years. E-Sports needs better.

You may want to present any criticisms you have with correct grammar if you want them to be taken seriously.

To avoid further fallacious discussion: I think Naniwa's decision to throw his game was immature and disrespectful. I think GOM's decision to revoke his seed for January was fair - I'm sure quite a few would have wanted a permanent ban, but I think their decision was best for all the parties involved.

I hope this incident can be used positively so in future pro-gamers can remember that they need to remain professional and respectful at all times.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:09:40
December 14 2011 22:09 GMT
#34
On December 15 2011 07:02 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 07:01 Colyo wrote:
vast vast vast over reaction on GOM's part, IMO. the public anger is enough; taking away his code S spot is overkill.


Read the OP first. According to Gom, Naniwa never had a Code S Spot to begin with.

Anyone who seriously thinks Naniwa wouldn't have got Code S without this incident is insanely dumb.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:10:26
December 14 2011 22:09 GMT
#35
wrong thread, oops.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
December 14 2011 22:10 GMT
#36
The most dramatic days in sc2 competitive history. Glad to have experienced it!
jib117
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
December 14 2011 22:11 GMT
#37
So is he playing in the code S or is he not. Still unsure
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 14 2011 22:12 GMT
#38
On December 15 2011 07:11 jib117 wrote:
So is he playing in the code S or is he not. Still unsure


He's not.
We make signature, then defense it.
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
December 14 2011 22:13 GMT
#39
On December 15 2011 07:11 jib117 wrote:
So is he playing in the code S or is he not. Still unsure

No he's not playing code S in January, he was in consideration for invite, but they took invitation away for that season. It means he's going to have to qualify through preliminaries like everyone else. TOugh road ahead. I hope Jinro fucking makes it through next January and that Boxer can get through up and down.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 14 2011 22:13 GMT
#40
OMG! get over it guys!

Seriously there are you know... more players and tournaments actually playing the damn game right now. Wow
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
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