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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
December 14 2011 15:30 GMT
#1161
Gracken to Code S makes sense out of pretty much ANY foreigner if you're going to get one in to replace Naniwa it should be him. Guy left of his own volition and he even had an emotional video made for him by GOM. If you're going on a like-for-like replacement basis, i.e a foreigner for a foreigner, then giving it to the foreigner who didn't drop down from Code S when he was playing there makes a lot of sense.



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Fyy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany82 Posts
December 14 2011 15:30 GMT
#1162
On December 14 2011 22:44 tapk69 wrote:
i dont want to offend anyone here but giving away code S spots is not a what i was expecting by GOM ... for a korean is so hard to play code S , but to a foreigner they give the spot with ease?

Idra fans im sorry but Idra will be crushed , besides him being as BM as Naniwa he is Code B material now ... Besides , he left korea because he knew he had no chance , now he comes back without deserving and all of a sudden hes code S good ?
It will be worse...

The spots should have been given by playing and not for free...

this Blizzard Cup was supposed to be epic and memorable but we only talk about naniwa..

he left korea after getting round 8 code s so im sure that he doesn´t left because he knew he had no chance
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
December 14 2011 15:32 GMT
#1163
On December 15 2011 00:12 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 23:47 GrungyMunchy wrote:
On December 14 2011 23:14 Taiki wrote:
On December 14 2011 23:07 HappyChris wrote:
Code S is a popularity contest not a competition of skills. Hole incident is a bad joke.

Giving out 2 Code S spot to players that didnt earn it in the MLG exchange program wtf is going on here.


Yeah man. I remember when SjoW and the gang got sent to Korea thanks to the MLG exchange program, everyone was full of praise and said that they were going to "tear up Code A" like it was totally fair for all the other Koreans struggeling in Code B. Now when Naniwa gets thrown out and Idra and Sen gets invited due to foreign turnament results the competition is suddenly unfair and invalid.

People should seriously consider not looking through coloured glasses all the time.

I don't personally agree with the MLG-GSL program, but at least it was an established way of getting in Code A and constituted one of two legitimate ways of qualifying in it. It's known by everyone that you could compete in Code A by either competing in the Code A qualifiers in Korea or by competing in an MLG and getting a high enough place to qualify for Code A.

This on the other hand is completely different. Do you actually know why Idra and Sen got seeded to play in Code S? There weren't any qualifiers for those spots, they were hand-picked by GOM to be directly placed into their highest league. No, getting "good foreign tournament results" isn't good enough if they didn't establish beforehand in which tournaments and how good of results you need to get to qualify for Code S. How about Hero, shouldn't he get a seed because of Dreamhack? How about Puma?

This isn't about Idra or Sen mind you, it's about getting two players to play in Code S just because GOM feels like it. That completely undermines the competitive aspect of the league.

This, completely. I honestly can't understand this move by GOM, it's utterly justified. Why not DeMuslim? He's also in Code A like Idra was through the same method. Why not Puma? Why not Hero? Yongwha? Fruitdealer, he's a fan favourite, why not him? WHY? Please, I actually wish they would put out a statement justifying this move.

it seems justified to me.. he was in gsl before.. that, to me at least, deems some sort of requisite to be given the slot.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
December 14 2011 15:34 GMT
#1164
On December 15 2011 00:25 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:22 Shiori wrote:
Idra isn't Code S caliber, but it's interesting nonetheless. GL.


I don't see where this sentiment comes from. He absolutely is Code S material. If he ever gets his ZvP up to par with his ZvZ and ZvT, he might become the best Zerg on the planet.



completely baseless statement, dude... he's good. he is nowhere near the best even if his zvp would be as good as his zvt. put nestea drg or leenock or coca in series vs the guys he lost to recently.
unnar
Profile Joined April 2011
Iceland211 Posts
December 14 2011 15:35 GMT
#1165
Why the fuck does Sen get spot what did he win to diserver it and didint just one spot open up?
casualman
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1198 Posts
December 14 2011 15:37 GMT
#1166
Fuck Gom. I was considering buying a year long pass, but fuck that, I can't support such a shitty company anymore.
GuMiho <3
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 15:40:39
December 14 2011 15:37 GMT
#1167
it would be totally baller if idra just came in code S,and for the hell of bming did a drone rush


if he did that i would forgive him of all sins since im a priest ...

Naniwa should not be removed even though he literally lost the game on purpose , this is wrong , he cant even read korean to know the rules.... First you give a serious fine and warning , then you ban... He will lose the code S money and GOM money on january instead of not receiving money from the blizzard cup....

This is very unfortunate, but i hope naniwa absorbs all this bad energy and uses it to train harder and play more focused..

As for Idra and his spot , you guys say he left code S so he should come back code S , that is so wrong...
When Idra played BitbyBit.prime was code S , and he left when the Up and downs and Code A code S was starting, from that point on , code S was the real deal no more open seasons ... and he left his group with 3 players , without GOM
finding a replacement in time..
Korea has the best terrans , and Idra doesnt like terrans , thats why i said he has no chance, i just think he is too nervous or angry to play in korea ( Stone Cold = mvp )


I think they should had made this other way , its like they do things without seeing the consequences..
ja foste
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
December 14 2011 15:37 GMT
#1168
Woo! for Idra and Sen, need more zergies in there.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
JL_GG
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada249 Posts
December 14 2011 15:38 GMT
#1169
grats
theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
December 14 2011 15:39 GMT
#1170
it's funny how people fail to see that the reason sen and idra got seeds were because of financial reasons... who is more popular than those two outside of korea in both the east and west?
not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
JiPrime
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada688 Posts
December 14 2011 15:40 GMT
#1171
At least Greg BM's with style and entertainment.

Good call by GOMTV.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
December 14 2011 15:42 GMT
#1172
On December 15 2011 00:39 theMiNUS wrote:
it's funny how people fail to see that the reason sen and idra got seeds were because of financial reasons... who is more popular than those two outside of korea in both the east and west?


i think everyone sees that, but it's kinda obvious that they didn't really earn the spots with performance, cuz you know, they didn't.

just like moonglade didn't earn code a spot back then. some boss people made the decision that they get the seed, and people tend to not agree with subjective decisions in sc2
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
December 14 2011 15:43 GMT
#1173
On December 15 2011 00:39 theMiNUS wrote:
it's funny how people fail to see that the reason sen and idra got seeds were because of financial reasons... who is more popular than those two outside of korea in both the east and west?


Its funny how true this is,

As for NaNi's removal im for it,
if you watched SotG and listened to incontrol's drunken arguement you'd see why it may have not been the completely correct thing to remove him, but some form of punishment was/is necessary
Those Bitches
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
December 14 2011 15:44 GMT
#1174
Really not a fan of this by GOM. Code S is supposed to be about skill, people have to earn their way there. Makes sense from a business perspective to increase foreigner star power, but seeding people in without any kind of skill test (eg MLG) seems very wrong for what's supposed to be the most prestigious tournament. They could have even held playoffs or something and it would be better than this. I was looking forward to seeing IdrA's path back to Code S, and now it's just handed to him on a silver platter?
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theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
December 14 2011 15:45 GMT
#1175
On December 15 2011 00:43 StatikKhaos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 00:39 theMiNUS wrote:
it's funny how people fail to see that the reason sen and idra got seeds were because of financial reasons... who is more popular than those two outside of korea in both the east and west?


Its funny how true this is,

As for NaNi's removal im for it,
if you watched SotG and listened to incontrol's drunken arguement you'd see why it may have not been the completely correct thing to remove him, but some form of punishment was/is necessary


i only spit truth
and i didn't get to watch SotG because the gracken was streaming
not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
December 14 2011 15:46 GMT
#1176
Go IdrA! He is far more deserving of the spot than Naniwa.
Turn off the radio
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
December 14 2011 15:46 GMT
#1177
lol at them giving idra a code S spot when he did exactly the same thing in IPL as what they've kicked Naniwa for
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13430 Posts
December 14 2011 15:48 GMT
#1178
On December 15 2011 00:44 R1CH wrote:
Really not a fan of this by GOM. Code S is supposed to be about skill, people have to earn their way there. Makes sense from a business perspective to increase foreigner star power, but seeding people in without any kind of skill test (eg MLG) seems very wrong for what's supposed to be the most prestigious tournament. They could have even held playoffs or something and it would be better than this. I was looking forward to seeing IdrA's path back to Code S, and now it's just handed to him on a silver platter?



While clearly one of the top foreigners, I too, would have loved to see his climb back to code S.
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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 14 2011 15:48 GMT
#1179
On December 15 2011 00:46 Zealotdriver wrote:
Go IdrA! He is far more deserving of the spot than Naniwa.


Yea ofcourse very logical. Naniwa only got 2nd place in MLG winning a spot just like DRG,MMA and MC did. Idra however went 3-3 vs no names in his wcg group. But he is very popular!

You are making so much sence

Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 14 2011 15:53 GMT
#1180
Both very tip top players, excited to see how they will do. Hopefully Slayers can help Idra deal with early pressure and hopefully Sen can stop doing those goofy strategies like he does against Hero everytime.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
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