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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread. | ||
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:18 HappyChris wrote: Why not give the spots to Stephano,Morrow or any koreans for that matter that are working very hard Why becuase its a popularity contest whomever got more fans gets it. PS, I do know Stephano passed down any invites to GSL but the point still stand Well you kinda cleared up half of why not those two. Stephano doesn't want it and both Idra and Sen did better in tournaments than Morrow. That's all. | ||
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Shortynut
Australia78 Posts
I think the "IdrA being the most popular foreigner" argument is irrelevant, he had a Code S spot before he left for NA, it's only right that he be allowed the chance to return. | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
kicking out nani becaus of a totally dumb rule that was not even REALLY broken by nani and then giving sen and idra code s spots instead of holding a qualifier and giving players like sase morrow or someone else the chance to play for it (maybe even desrow looooool) | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:38 iglocska wrote: Well you kinda cleared up half of why not those two. Stephano doesn't want it and both Idra and Sen did better in tournaments than Morrow. That's all. What about the koreans that are working there ass off everyday and are still in code B? You see my point?. | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:14 Taiki wrote: Yeah man. I remember when SjoW and the gang got sent to Korea thanks to the MLG exchange program, everyone was full of praise and said that they were going to "tear up Code A" like it was totally fair for all the other Koreans struggeling in Code B. Now when Naniwa gets thrown out and Idra and Sen gets invited due to foreign turnament results the competition is suddenly unfair and invalid. People should seriously consider not looking through coloured glasses all the time. I don't personally agree with the MLG-GSL program, but at least it was an established way of getting in Code A and constituted one of two legitimate ways of qualifying in it. It's known by everyone that you could compete in Code A by either competing in the Code A qualifiers in Korea or by competing in an MLG and getting a high enough place to qualify for Code A. This on the other hand is completely different. Do you actually know why Idra and Sen got seeded to play in Code S? There weren't any qualifiers for those spots, they were hand-picked by GOM to be directly placed into their highest league. No, getting "good foreign tournament results" isn't good enough if they didn't establish beforehand in which tournaments and how good of results you need to get to qualify for Code S. How about Hero, shouldn't he get a seed because of Dreamhack? How about Puma? This isn't about Idra or Sen mind you, it's about getting two players to play in Code S just because GOM feels like it. That completely undermines the competitive aspect of the league. | ||
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FireFish
Denmark228 Posts
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Aurorajp
Canada43 Posts
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Loki57
United States292 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:46 HappyChris wrote: What about the koreans that are working there ass off everyday and are still in code B? You see my point?. There's no point to see. The two invite spots are for foreigners only. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
This isn't about Idra or Sen mind you, it's about getting two players to play in Code S just because GOM feels like it. That completely undermines the competitive aspect of the league. As much as I love to see IdrA in Code S, just inviting him out of the blue is completely unfair to everyone else, Koreans and foreigners. I wholeheartedly agree with the quote.Not to mention that GOM makes itself look ridiculous by kicking Naniwa out. There are probably no words to describe the current mental state of Naniwa, if what he showed of himself in the past is any indication. | ||
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Mellon
Sweden917 Posts
When he left korea he did it after choosing his own group, made it turn into a 3-man group showing exactly what gomtv dont want, unproffesionalism. Idra is not even good enough to compete in code S imo, so don't see how this is justifiable... What a shitty day for sc2.. | ||
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iglocska
Norway589 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:46 HappyChris wrote: What about the koreans that are working there ass off everyday and are still in code B? You see my point?. Whether they're better than the best foreigners is questionable, of course a qualifier tournament for those extra spots would clear it up, but it's just not very convenient to hold an extra tournament each time someone drops out for whatever reason. Considering that these spots were meant to go to foreigners anyway, I see no problem with them just dropping down to the next spots on the list according to whichever ranking they use. As a european I think that after the results of 2011 Sen and Idra are more deserving than Morrow for example, so I don't think this has anything to do with it being a popularity contest. Plus if they were just out after popularity and getting more viewers, they'd just give the code S spot to Boxer  | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:50 Loki57 wrote: There's no point to see. The two invite spots are for foreigners only. Do you have a source please? Where is this from? | ||
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:38 Shortynut wrote: Not saying neither of these guys deserve this opportunity, because we all agree they are both fantastic players, but Naniwa worked very hard to be given the chance at that spot (not that it was set in stone), even committing to his stay in Korea (giving up all the potential prize money from foreign tournaments in the process, which doesn't support the "naniwa is a money hunter" argument). I think the "IdrA being the most popular foreigner" argument is irrelevant, he had a Code S spot before he left for NA, it's only right that he be allowed the chance to return. He had a code S spot like half a year ago that he forfeited. Why should he get a invite back again, essentially bypassing the currently much harder qualification rounds? | ||
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Reaper9
United States1724 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:53 karpo wrote: He had a code S spot like half a year ago that he forfeited. Why should he get a invite back again, essentially bypassing the currently much harder qualification rounds? I think it's a sign of good-will from GOM to the people outside of Korea, even if most won't see it that way. While they punish Naniwa, they give code S to Idra and Sen with the mindset of "hey, we still respect other people from foreign countries, let's give these popular players a chance". | ||
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Dathremar
Macedonia11 Posts
You can say that this is unprofessional from GOM or w/e, but the truth is that when You get invited at a tournament You got to obey the rules and the culture of the people that are inviting You. In this case the koreans. Which are people with huge respect toward each other. The ceremonials after the matches are not disrespect, that's just their way of showing some fun stuff to the crowd/viewers. Saying that "I don't wanna play this match because it has no meaning" is BM and shows that the player lacks will to play the game. Like quantc twitter said it was time to fight for Your pride. So he deserved the punishment. Thats my 2 cents. | ||
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GizmoPT
Portugal3040 Posts
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KillAudio
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