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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread. | ||
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Dathremar
Macedonia11 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:00 GizmoPT wrote: a guy that didnt care about the competition there and forfeited gets invited back and a guy that was trying his best gets kicked out just cause of a game For You it is just a game, for them it is a job. If You don't feel like working it might get Your ass fired. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
It's not a matter of if he deserves it, it's a matter of how used he is to GSL. It will be a huge blow to go insta-codeS for him and he is not used to that. I do think that he will be able to maintain himself, but I'd prefer to see him working from down there. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:00 Reaper9 wrote: I think it's a sign of good-will from GOM to the people outside of Korea, even if most won't see it that way. While they punish Naniwa, they give code S to Idra and Sen with the mindset of "hey, we still respect other people from foreign countries, let's give these popular players a chance". It feels like a handout to me. It isn't fair to the great players still stuck in code A/B either. People lost interest in NASL S2 becuse there were no koreans and now GOM give away spots in the most prestigious SC2 tournament to foreigners. Everything seems messed up somehow. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
On December 14 2011 23:47 GrungyMunchy wrote: I don't personally agree with the MLG-GSL program, but at least it was an established way of getting in Code A and constituted one of two legitimate ways of qualifying in it. It's known by everyone that you could compete in Code A by either competing in the Code A qualifiers in Korea or by competing in an MLG and getting a high enough place to qualify for Code A. This on the other hand is completely different. Do you actually know why Idra and Sen got seeded to play in Code S? There weren't any qualifiers for those spots, they were hand-picked by GOM to be directly placed into their highest league. No, getting "good foreign tournament results" isn't good enough if they didn't establish beforehand in which tournaments and how good of results you need to get to qualify for Code S. How about Hero, shouldn't he get a seed because of Dreamhack? How about Puma? This isn't about Idra or Sen mind you, it's about getting two players to play in Code S just because GOM feels like it. That completely undermines the competitive aspect of the league. This, completely. I honestly can't understand this move by GOM, it's utterly justified. Why not DeMuslim? He's also in Code A like Idra was through the same method. Why not Puma? Why not Hero? Yongwha? Fruitdealer, he's a fan favourite, why not him? WHY? Please, I actually wish they would put out a statement justifying this move. | ||
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ArtThouAngry
Canada146 Posts
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hongo
207 Posts
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EaryKing
Bulgaria158 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
still none of those two seeds seem really earned to me, wouldn't be surprised if they get their asses kicked in the 1st round. | ||
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blackbrrd
Norway477 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:12 MCDayC wrote: This, completely. I honestly can't understand this move by GOM, it's utterly justified. Why not DeMuslim? He's also in Code A like Idra was through the same method. Why not Puma? Why not Hero? Yongwha? Fruitdealer, he's a fan favourite, why not him? WHY? Please, I actually wish they would put out a statement justifying this move. Idra is the only one who has given up a Code S spot, so giving it back to him makes sense to me. He is a foreigner, he is well known and they want him in the GSL because he makes good entertainment. | ||
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Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
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Shiori
3815 Posts
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djfoxmccloud
France185 Posts
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pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
R1CH_TL Richard Stanway Players should have to earn a spot in Code S via skill, arbitrarily seeding people directly in cheapens it. Smart business move though. | ||
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Malibu Joe
10 Posts
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Zorkmid
4410 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:22 Shiori wrote: Idra isn't Code S caliber, but it's interesting nonetheless. GL. I don't see where this sentiment comes from. He absolutely is Code S material. If he ever gets his ZvP up to par with his ZvZ and ZvT, he might become the best Zerg on the planet. | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
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Taiki
Norway57 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On December 14 2011 23:47 GrungyMunchy wrote: I don't personally agree with the MLG-GSL program, but at least it was an established way of getting in Code A and constituted one of two legitimate ways of qualifying in it. It's known by everyone that you could compete in Code A by either competing in the Code A qualifiers in Korea or by competing in an MLG and getting a high enough place to qualify for Code A. This on the other hand is completely different. Do you actually know why Idra and Sen got seeded to play in Code S? There weren't any qualifiers for those spots, they were hand-picked by GOM to be directly placed into their highest league. No, getting "good foreign tournament results" isn't good enough if they didn't establish beforehand in which tournaments and how good of results you need to get to qualify for Code S. How about Hero, shouldn't he get a seed because of Dreamhack? How about Puma? This isn't about Idra or Sen mind you, it's about getting two players to play in Code S just because GOM feels like it. That completely undermines the competitive aspect of the league. I don't agree with the exchange program either or any sort of invite based turnaments. My point was that when SjoW and company went to Code A everyone was saying that it was justified. Now when Idra and Sen (both which are a lot more acomplished than everyone else that went through the same exchange program) the competition is suddenly invalid. Which is quite ridiculous. Yes, they are playing in GSL because GOM feels like it. Just like it is with every single invite based turnament. Would you or anyone for that matter seriously argue that DH's invites undermines the competition? | ||
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Code A i can understand, even Up and Down. But man Code S should be earned! | ||
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fcgog
United Kingdom876 Posts
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DaRKMaTT3r
Brazil553 Posts
So now, HuK after so much ahrd work trying to stay in code S is gonna still have to face Up and downs and idra just got there for free? If it was to be given for free they should at least given one to HuK who's the only foreigner that's been truly loyal to GSL tournament all this time. =( | ||
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