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RastaMonsta
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:48 HappyChris wrote: Yea ofcourse very logical. Naniwa only got 2nd place in MLG winning a spot just like DRG,MMA and MC did. Idra however went 3-3 vs no names in his wcg group. But he is very popular! You are making so much sence naniwa is only like 1-10 in GSL but he is very popular! Idra oonly made the measly ro8.... geez | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:56 mrtomjones wrote: naniwa is only like 1-10 in GSL but he is very popular! Idra oonly made the measly ro8.... geez Yea Naniwa so popular. You have got to be kidding. Stop being a fool plz | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:56 mrtomjones wrote: naniwa is only like 1-10 in GSL but he is very popular! Idra oonly made the measly ro8.... geez 6 month old results don't matter. jinro was a top terran back then, now he can't qualify for code A. wouldn't be surprised if the same would be true for idra... | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:58 HappyChris wrote: Yea Naniwa so popular. You have got to be kidding. Stop being a fool plz If we count the number of topics about naniwa at the moment, and the people calling for a GomTV boycott it would seem Naniwa is very popular. | ||
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halfies
United Kingdom327 Posts
makes sense to me | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:01 halfies wrote: kick a player out for BM, invite Idra. makes sense to me Idra has been acting more professionally and better overall compared to Naniwa for a some time now. You really can't deny that. The old Idra everyone knows, is pretty much gone. Especially in offline tournaments. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:44 R1CH wrote: Really not a fan of this by GOM. Code S is supposed to be about skill, people have to earn their way there. Makes sense from a business perspective to increase foreigner star power, but seeding people in without any kind of skill test (eg MLG) seems very wrong for what's supposed to be the most prestigious tournament. They could have even held playoffs or something and it would be better than this. I was looking forward to seeing IdrA's path back to Code S, and now it's just handed to him on a silver platter? I agree with you. GSL has always been considered the top tournament where there's a hellish journey to get to code S. Now foreigners that probably aren't better than many code B/A koreans are automatically seeded into the top rung. It just goes against what i feel the GSL was about. Marketability vs serious professional sport. It's probably because SC2 isn't large enough to sustain a league like the GSL without them pandering to fans and inviting popular players. The only reason it's called the Global Starcraft II League is because they work very hard to inject foreign players directly into code A/S because no one but HuK has made it in the last 6 months. | ||
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Lexpar
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:26 Taiki wrote: + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + On December 14 2011 23:47 GrungyMunchy wrote: I don't personally agree with the MLG-GSL program, but at least it was an established way of getting in Code A and constituted one of two legitimate ways of qualifying in it. It's known by everyone that you could compete in Code A by either competing in the Code A qualifiers in Korea or by competing in an MLG and getting a high enough place to qualify for Code A. This on the other hand is completely different. Do you actually know why Idra and Sen got seeded to play in Code S? There weren't any qualifiers for those spots, they were hand-picked by GOM to be directly placed into their highest league. No, getting "good foreign tournament results" isn't good enough if they didn't establish beforehand in which tournaments and how good of results you need to get to qualify for Code S. How about Hero, shouldn't he get a seed because of Dreamhack? How about Puma? This isn't about Idra or Sen mind you, it's about getting two players to play in Code S just because GOM feels like it. That completely undermines the competitive aspect of the league. I don't agree with the exchange program either or any sort of invite based turnaments. My point was that when SjoW and company went to Code A everyone was saying that it was justified. Now when Idra and Sen (both which are a lot more acomplished than everyone else that went through the same exchange program) the competition is suddenly invalid. Which is quite ridiculous. Yes, they are playing in GSL because GOM feels like it. Just like it is with every single invite based turnament. Would you or anyone for that matter seriously argue that DH's invites undermines the competition? It's not about if the players are accomplished or not, it's whether they got the spot via an established way or if they just got the spots because they were arbitrarily handed out to them... "Just like it is with every single invite based tournament"? Are you serious? GSL isn't an invite based tournament, you get there through qualifying for it, yes even through the MLG way. Everyone knows Dreamhack is invite based, GSL isn't but suddenly they hand out invites in the same season that other players are qualifying for it, without prior notice. I have no idea how you can mix up those two cases. | ||
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JL_GG
Canada249 Posts
On December 15 2011 00:12 karpo wrote: It feels like a handout to me. It isn't fair to the great players still stuck in code A/B either. People lost interest in NASL S2 becuse there were no koreans and now GOM give away spots in the most prestigious SC2 tournament to foreigners. Everything seems messed up somehow. idra was code s when he left and he was never out of code s technically so rly don't see how is it a handout and oh u r swedish..... | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:02 Grettin wrote: Idra has been acting more professionally and better overall compared to Naniwa for a some time now. You really can't deny that. The old Idra everyone knows, is pretty much gone. Especially in offline tournaments. Hope thats a joke, in the last mlg he was flamming a 16 year old he lost to. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:09 rareh wrote: Hope thats a joke, in the last mlg he was flamming a 16 year old he lost to. Really? Link/source? I'm actually curious, I want to see this. | ||
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Mario1209
United States1077 Posts
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Almtom
Sweden132 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
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arfyron
518 Posts
On December 15 2011 01:01 halfies wrote: kick a player out for BM, invite Idra. makes sense to me Idra has always been respectful in gsl | ||
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