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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#321
GOM kicking Naniwa might be the worst response to this possible. If his 'offense' wasn't covered in the rules then it's a matter for the team to take up; this makes all parties look unprofessional and hurts the scene even more =/ No way I'll be buying another ticket if it's true.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#322
On December 14 2011 18:33 Tppz! wrote:
I know Jinro wouldnt take it but I hope he gets offered a Code A Spot! Id love to see him back and maybe even playing vs IdrA in GSL again ^.^


Jinro was offered it awhile ago but he declined because he wants to earn his spot.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#323
On December 14 2011 18:29 MapleFractal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:24 Snowbear wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:17 Tommylew wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.


will you shut up you drama queen. he was rushing to leave game so did only one g by accident and he probe rushed because he was playign a meaningless game ina bullshit tournament structure.. hell in up and down games in regular season you dont play when you are already out... so whats the big deal.


You don't just miss a g. Do you see a korean GSL player miss a g? No. The games are NEVER meaningless, the viewers always want a nice great match. If I was in charge I would make sure that this kid would never be allowed to participate in ANY tournament.


I think you miss spelled your TL account name, KESPABear, more appropriate.



You have to see the whole picture. Naniwa is just really really really bad mannered in general. Teams kick him, he insults korean progamers in interviews, etc. He acts like Major aka princess aka terran, and people like that are not professional enough to participate in prestigious tournaments. But hey, its my opinion, which is nothing worth, so let's move on.
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#324
On December 14 2011 18:32 setzer wrote:
Jesus Christ Gom, the babying of the foreign scene has to STOP. These players should EARN their way into Code S like every Korean player. It's pretty clear GOM is getting desperate for viewers/subscriptions when they try every way possible to give non-koreans free passes into the most difficult, most prestigious league in SC2. Meanwhile better players are fighting for their careers in Code Hell ...

Idra left your league because he felt it wasn't worth it stay when the foreign scene continued to grow. Now that he is back in Korea he should have to work his way back to Code S. The Sen invite is just random as hell.


I completely agree, you ruin the prestige of your tournament by doing this. However from an economic point of view, it is a good decision. SC2 is dead sport in Korea, relative to SC1. When Kespa makes their own leagues, they could potentially put GOM out of business.
Reggae-Troll
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland241 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#325
I hope they make a new video for Idra, kinda like the one they did when he left GSL.
Do feed the Troll.
Mise
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland580 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#326
I don't get why they didn't just hold a wildcard tournament for people who lose at the Up and Downs like they did back in the first season of code S when LiveForever left to the army and also when Rain left. They have an actual off-season this time so they certainly wouldn't have problem with just holding a small online tournament to determine who deserves the Code S.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#327
Even though I'm very happy for IdrA (and Sen) I don't think this is the way one should receive a code S spot. Quite frustrating for the Korean players fighting constantly in Code A to earn a Code S spot and now suddenly two non-Korean players receive one.

Also, does anyone has an update on Naniwa's code S spot?
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#328
On December 14 2011 18:32 qke wrote:
Boycotting GOM / GSL it is.


Totally agree. We need to set up a petition or some kind of community rally to make some noise at least to how ridiculous GOM is acting in this. They have a terrible format with no rules stating probe rush isnt allowed, then ban a player who follows their shitty rules? Unbelievable really.
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Phantom_Sky
Profile Joined August 2010
Hong Kong512 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#329
hope that's dropoff is from Sc instead of Naniwa

first Idra then Sen

Huk/ Sen/ Idra / Naniwa - best foreign lineup in code S ever?
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#330
sick of foreigners getting spots in code S just because they're foreigners. I hope oGsfin and those guys beat them 2-0 first round.
Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#331
Should have been Stephano in Code S. Just look at his Performance in BlizzCup
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#332
On December 14 2011 18:31 Fionn wrote:
Naniwa's spot should go to Huk or Haypro for being the highest ranked behind him at Providence.

Idra's spot should go to the highest ranked GSL player not in Code S after Up-and-Downs between Polt, July, Nada.


Ive read a few of your posts through out this thread and I know where youre coming from. But heres what we know, Gom is heading out a (or 2) code S spots.

If thats the case, IdrA is just as deserving as anyone, more so than July or Nada. Also if you think about it from GOMs management/marketing department, it makes PERFECT sense. Afterall, gomtv is a business too.

Since IdrA is my favorite player I may be biased but I dont really see a need for an uproar since IdrA is fully deserving of this. (Whether you can make this argument for a few others is irrelevant from a marketing standpoint. No one is as popular nor will they bring as many viewers as IdrA.)
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#333
On December 14 2011 18:34 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:28 mememolly wrote:
bad decision to kick naniwa, GOM probably always wanted idra back because of the viewers he brings and saw their chance


If they did indeed kick naniwa out and gave the spot to idra, i'll have two reasons to not watching this season of GSL.

They kicked naniwa and gave his spot to Sen. We dont know who idra is replacing yet
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 14 2011 09:35 GMT
#334
On December 14 2011 18:35 Weemoed wrote:
Even though I'm very happy for IdrA (and Sen) I don't think this is the way one should receive a code S spot. Quite frustrating for the Korean players fighting constantly in Code A to earn a Code S spot and now suddenly two non-Korean players receive one.

Also, does anyone has an update on Naniwa's code S spot?


Reading the thread, on the korean stream supposidly mr.chae or however you spell his name said naniwa is banned from GSL, and some guy told Sen that as well he had his code S spot revoked.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
December 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#335
It would be SO disappointing if they kicked nani out. His games are so entertaining and he's so damn good. Punishing him for their shitty tournament format.. Guess what, this kind of thing happens when there's pool play EVERY TIME. Worthless games are not worth playing.
good vibes only
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#336
On December 14 2011 18:34 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:32 Fionn wrote:
The strength of Code S has upped ten times since Idra left. If Idra gets his spot back, Rain and LiveForever should also get their spots back as well.

Are they trying to qualify?


Okay, so why not give the spot to Nada or Polt? Both higher ranked in GSL points than Idra and they have both made semifinals in the past few months.

Idra got the spot because he's popular and GSL wants more foreigners so that their tickets sell. It's not because his skill is above all others trying to qualify that he needs to go straight into Code S. I like Idra. I want him in Code S. But I want to see him earn it by testing his skills in Up-and-Downs.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#337
On December 14 2011 18:35 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:32 setzer wrote:
Jesus Christ Gom, the babying of the foreign scene has to STOP. These players should EARN their way into Code S like every Korean player. It's pretty clear GOM is getting desperate for viewers/subscriptions when they try every way possible to give non-koreans free passes into the most difficult, most prestigious league in SC2. Meanwhile better players are fighting for their careers in Code Hell ...

Idra left your league because he felt it wasn't worth it stay when the foreign scene continued to grow. Now that he is back in Korea he should have to work his way back to Code S. The Sen invite is just random as hell.


I completely agree, you ruin the prestige of your tournament by doing this. However from an economic point of view, it is a good decision. SC2 is dead sport in Korea, relative to SC1. When Kespa makes their own leagues, they could potentially put GOM out of business.


IdrA's only in Korea for training, GSL is just convenient for him.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
December 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#338
On December 14 2011 18:35 Heathen wrote:
Should have been Stephano in Code S. Just look at his Performance in BlizzCup

He declined GSL seed already, im sure he would have been invited before idra
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
December 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#339
you guys are really losing me

do any of you know who sen is

he's probably the actual best foreigner :\
aaaaa
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
December 14 2011 09:36 GMT
#340
They'll probably get more viewers because of Idra being in than Naniwa being out. Pretty smart decision IMO. They're probably being pressured domestically for the removal of Naniwa anyway.
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