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Please discuss IdrA and Sen in Code S January in this thread.
NaldoR
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore2198 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#301
Gom giving out free code S without a competition
players like Hero/Puma/sase have to qualify while sen which has 0 acheivements at MLG or GSL gets in code S without a reason.
A small case can be made for Idra as he did well in MLG

And Naniwa which qualified and just due to a probe rush has lost his GSL spot... In the future no cannon rush/4gate/6pool can be done as it is inappropriate and has too low chance of winning?? WTF GOM...

Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#302
On December 14 2011 18:32 jester- wrote:
Crap man I wish they had caught this and talked about it on SOTG


lol. tbh i just love it when this drama hits the fan just so i can hear about it on SOTG.

i'm so bad for esports
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Buruguduy
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines238 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#303
On December 14 2011 18:32 Ripps wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK!
I love Idra and I'm glad that he got a Code S spot, but you can't just kick a guy out for something like this.
I wasn't happy with Naniwa about the whole thing, but this is over the line for sure.


NBA players get suspended when they shoot basket in their own goals to achieve milestones. What's wrong with that
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LITTLEHEAD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States79 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:36:42
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#304
On December 14 2011 18:27 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:27 LITTLEHEAD wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:24 Snowbear wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:17 Tommylew wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.


will you shut up you drama queen. he was rushing to leave game so did only one g by accident and he probe rushed because he was playign a meaningless game ina bullshit tournament structure.. hell in up and down games in regular season you dont play when you are already out... so whats the big deal.


You don't just miss a g. Do you see a korean GSL player miss a g? No. The games are NEVER meaningless, the viewers always want a nice great match. If I was in charge I would make sure that this kid would never be allowed to participate in ANY tournament.

not true, ive seen it happen on more than one occassion...typically followed by them retyping the full "gg" but regardless it does happen...and even if it didn't...its not a big deal.

Idra has no gg'ed in GSL and it wasn't a problem. I understand the korean culture is different, but i feel without a doubt that if someone else had done it that they wouldn't have taken such harsh measures, especially for a game without meaning. Naniwa shouldn't have done what he did, but this is being blown out of proportion.


That is wrong, Idra gg'd in GSL in every match I watched (which was all I believe). Don't know where you got he didn't gg in gsl lol.


Pretty sure i remember him vs zenio or some other zerg, and he didn't gg. They even asked him why no gg and he made some smart-ass comment. Although this is the only one i can htink of, im almost certain there was another in his last GSL run. Regardless there deffinetly was atleast one...dont know where you where in that match

Edit: Found the game, WAS vs Zenio, and it was from NASL, so i withdraw my statement until i can find an actual case
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#305
On December 14 2011 18:31 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:25 bgx wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:23 XRaDiiX wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:17 Geo.Rion wrote:
OGSParkjeso just wrote to Sen that Naniwa got removed!

Not trolling, wanted to screeenshot was 0.2 seconds late



.... I don't think a lot of people are going to be happy about that. Seems kind-of like a harsh punishment IMO

are you suprised after Coca incident?

on the topic, this is a joke, Idra was scheduled to play up-and down matches anyway why not let him finish that and just get codeS? At least we would know if hes capable of beating Koreans.


As far as I know it was SlayerS who punished Coca and not GOM.

GOM had no jurisdiction as it wasn't in their tournament.

This time they do.

Either way wow they just sent a huge message to everyone.
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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#306
It's kind of weird how one player's immaturity has shifted so much of the blame to GOM.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#307
On December 14 2011 18:25 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:22 Lysanias wrote:
Idra in code S would love it if he actualy played for it and earned it.

Did he not do that when he made it to the Ro16 of Code S?

No, he earned a spot for the GSL season after that not for every season he wants to play. Should have picked the player with the most GSL points or play it out in an extra tournament.
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:34:27
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#308
On December 14 2011 18:30 BronzeLeague wrote:
seems harsh if it is naniwa, but i guess that they may have felt embarassed since they aired the game. Hopefully there is some other reason for these spots being open.


They should be embarrassed. But they should respond to that embarrassment by firing the person who designed their tournament format and take responsibility as the organizer.

First they punish a player because he didn't indulge into playing a game just for show, without even being clear on whether any rules were broken in the first place, and instead they hand out free Code S invites to players who didn't even try to qualify.

They made so many mistakes on so many levels in the last week it's not even funny.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#309
On December 14 2011 18:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Naniwa made GOM look like a joke on TV. I'm not gonna complain, but gonna get ready for all the outraged foreigners saying they'll never watch GSL again.


Already are for just Idra/Sen getting code S
When I think of something else, something will go here
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#310
I know Jinro wouldnt take it but I hope he gets offered a Code A Spot! Id love to see him back and maybe even playing vs IdrA in GSL again ^.^
Ponchey
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden89 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#311
I'm not against Idra getting a free code S seed, but if this is actually meaning Naniwa lost his EARNED seed, then GomTV just lost a viewer, like... forever.
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
December 14 2011 09:33 GMT
#312
On December 14 2011 18:33 LITTLEHEAD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:27 blade55555 wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:27 LITTLEHEAD wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:24 Snowbear wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:17 Tommylew wrote:
On December 14 2011 18:15 Snowbear wrote:
I don't understand why people think that nani doesn't deserve a kick out of the tournament. He didn't behave:
- "g" instead of "gg": I see this as a spit in the face
- probe rushing

In such a big tournament you just have to act professional, and he just can't.


will you shut up you drama queen. he was rushing to leave game so did only one g by accident and he probe rushed because he was playign a meaningless game ina bullshit tournament structure.. hell in up and down games in regular season you dont play when you are already out... so whats the big deal.


You don't just miss a g. Do you see a korean GSL player miss a g? No. The games are NEVER meaningless, the viewers always want a nice great match. If I was in charge I would make sure that this kid would never be allowed to participate in ANY tournament.

not true, ive seen it happen on more than one occassion...typically followed by them retyping the full "gg" but regardless it does happen...and even if it didn't...its not a big deal.

Idra has no gg'ed in GSL and it wasn't a problem. I understand the korean culture is different, but i feel without a doubt that if someone else had done it that they wouldn't have taken such harsh measures, especially for a game without meaning. Naniwa shouldn't have done what he did, but this is being blown out of proportion.


That is wrong, Idra gg'd in GSL in every match I watched (which was all I believe). Don't know where you got he didn't gg in gsl lol.


Pretty sure i remember him vs zenio or some other zerg, and he didn't gg. They even asked him why no gg and he made some smart-ass comment. Although this is the only one i can htink of, im almost certain there was another in his last GSL run. Regardless there deffinetly was atleast one...dont know where you where in that match


this was in NASL
nobody cares much about nasl anyways

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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#313
On December 14 2011 18:25 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 18:22 Lysanias wrote:
Idra in code S would love it if he actualy played for it and earned it.

Did he not do that when he made it to the Ro16 of Code S?

excuse me?

Do you really believe in what you say? Why his accomplishements half year ago/year ago should take priority over people strugling right now? Because he proved to be a good code S player year ago?
Stork[gm]
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 09:34:49
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#314
If Naniwa is being punished by losing his code S spot, GSL has become a fucking joke. Forget that season ticket, will wait until Naniwa is back on GSL to give them a penny.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#315
On December 14 2011 18:32 Fionn wrote:
The strength of Code S has upped ten times since Idra left. If Idra gets his spot back, Rain and LiveForever should also get their spots back as well.

Are they trying to qualify?
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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#316
On December 14 2011 18:28 mememolly wrote:
bad decision to kick naniwa, GOM probably always wanted idra back because of the viewers he brings and saw their chance


If they did indeed kick naniwa out and gave the spot to idra, i'll have two reasons to not watching this season of GSL.
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#317
It is mainly a clash of cultural values and perspectives. Individualism versus Utilitarianism. Naniwa may not have violated the tournament's rule but he definitely deserved the punishment for lacking respect.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#318
The message is: We don't make mistakes, only players can make mistakes. In our tournament it's okay to throw matches, but you have to pretend. Not so impressed.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#319
On December 14 2011 18:33 Ponchey wrote:
I'm not against Idra getting a free code S seed, but if this is actually meaning Naniwa lost his EARNED seed, then GomTV just lost a viewer, like... forever.

This is GOM's tournament, not a public service. They can choose who enters and they can choose who they ban just like Coca and Byun. Bye.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
December 14 2011 09:34 GMT
#320
On December 14 2011 18:33 Ponchey wrote:
I'm not against Idra getting a free code S seed, but if this is actually meaning Naniwa lost his EARNED seed, then GomTV just lost a viewer, like... forever.


Naniwa didn't lose his spot, he gave it up being bloody stupid.
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