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discobaas
Profile Joined December 2011
225 Posts
January 05 2012 02:03 GMT
#241
On January 05 2012 10:58 skatblast wrote:
Why are there, would there be "woman only' tournaments. Its not a physical sport were you have to seperate the weaker females. Its a stategy game.

Can we just keep the current tournaments as "men only" then?

Same goes for chess, still there's womens tournaments so they atleast get some attention.

Anyway, who cares if they signed her for marketing purposes.. that's what companies/brands have to do. No need to attack her or eS for it.
you're wrong
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 05 2012 02:03 GMT
#242
That's some picture.
nicknack
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia189 Posts
January 05 2012 02:06 GMT
#243
On December 14 2011 01:22 RetoX wrote:
Hi! My name is Madeleine Leander. I'm a PhD-student in mathematics.


Seems she has more brains then people in this thread....

SharkSpider
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada606 Posts
January 05 2012 02:10 GMT
#244
On January 05 2012 11:06 nicknack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 01:22 RetoX wrote:
Hi! My name is Madeleine Leander. I'm a PhD-student in mathematics.


Seems she has more brains then people in this thread....



This. It takes brains to pursue a PHD in anything, and IMO that goes double for fields like mathematics. That said, I can't see a full time graduate student having enough time to play SC2 enough to compete at the highest level.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 02:15:26
January 05 2012 02:14 GMT
#245
On January 05 2012 11:03 discobaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 10:58 skatblast wrote:
Why are there, would there be "woman only' tournaments. Its not a physical sport were you have to seperate the weaker females. Its a stategy game.

Can we just keep the current tournaments as "men only" then?

Same goes for chess, still there's womens tournaments so they atleast get some attention.

Anyway, who cares if they signed her for marketing purposes.. that's what companies/brands have to do. No need to attack her or eS for it.


So, she has a PhD is mathematics but cant compete in a thinking game with common nerds? Seems like competing in girl only tournaments belittles yourself. Because clearly woman only tournaments mean "woman who arnt good enough to compete in normal tournaments"

If theres no "guy only" tournaments there should be no "woman only" tournaments.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 05 2012 02:18 GMT
#246
On January 05 2012 11:14 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 11:03 discobaas wrote:
On January 05 2012 10:58 skatblast wrote:
Why are there, would there be "woman only' tournaments. Its not a physical sport were you have to seperate the weaker females. Its a stategy game.

Can we just keep the current tournaments as "men only" then?

Same goes for chess, still there's womens tournaments so they atleast get some attention.

Anyway, who cares if they signed her for marketing purposes.. that's what companies/brands have to do. No need to attack her or eS for it.


So, she has a PhD is mathematics but cant compete in a thinking game with common nerds? Seems like competing in girl only tournaments belittles yourself. Because clearly woman only tournaments mean "woman who arnt good enough to compete in normal tournaments"

If theres no "guy only" tournaments there should be no "woman only" tournaments.


It's not only a thinking game. lol
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Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
January 05 2012 02:31 GMT
#247
On December 14 2011 07:43 sQueez wrote:
She sure as hell has some brains..

Mathematic paper..


Set theory makes even mathematicians bored. Damn I hate that stuff. Differential equations and statistical theory are infinitely (power sets over!) more interesting.
Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
January 05 2012 02:33 GMT
#248
On January 05 2012 10:58 skatblast wrote:
Why are there, would there be "woman only' tournaments. Its not a physical sport were you have to seperate the weaker females. Its a stategy game.

Can we just keep the current tournaments as "men only" then?


Marketing. Its the sad truth, although I'm sure if a tournament came out that was "men only" people would be getting mad.

Why is the title of this thread "Adds female player"? Why cant it just be esahara adds a player?
4 Corners in a day.
MurDeRsc2
Profile Joined May 2010
133 Posts
January 05 2012 02:38 GMT
#249
^ Why are they adding mediocre masters players to a "professional" team?

I am confused by all of the female additions, they simply can't compete with the male counterparts, or at least they haven't proved they can.. what use do professional teams have with them? *shrug*
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 05 2012 03:00 GMT
#250
Seems like eSahara just wants to get their name out there. pick up a female gamer, send two players to Korea, sign two Koreans.

Guess they have to though, it's not like they're players are winning anything and bringing notoriety that way.
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ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
January 05 2012 03:04 GMT
#251
I really want female progamers to actually do well and not turn into some marketing gimmick.

ckunkel1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States181 Posts
January 05 2012 03:05 GMT
#252
Everyone who is talking about how she isn't good is need to be quiet. The best way to get females involved in the pro scene is getting them on pro teams! She maybe be low masters now, but who knows where she will end up after some serious practice with good pro players. It would be huge for a team to have a female player develop into a top pro player. It is worth the risk imo to have at least 1 female player on a team.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 05 2012 03:10 GMT
#253
On January 05 2012 12:05 AdAckbar wrote:
Everyone who is talking about how she isn't good is need to be quiet. The best way to get females involved in the pro scene is getting them on pro teams! She maybe be low masters now, but who knows where she will end up after some serious practice with good pro players. It would be huge for a team to have a female player develop into a top pro player. It is worth the risk imo to have at least 1 female player on a team.


While this may be true, explain to us how a PhD student in her mid twenties is going to develop into a decent GM player, let alone a mediocre pro player, let alone a top pro player. It's not gonna happen, this is publicity. Not to mention that there is no risk involved. Unless eSahara pays salaries to their players, there is 0 investment on their part, especially since I doubt we'll see her in any live events.
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Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
January 05 2012 03:13 GMT
#254
Nothing will come of this as usual.
kineSiS-
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Korea (South)1068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 03:16:18
January 05 2012 03:14 GMT
#255
When I see Masters player, this is a disappointing thing to hear. If both genders are to be treated equally, how come players of lower caliber on the condition of being female are allowed into teams whereas the standard for males is higher. This is ridiculous and if the female eSports scene is to be given credence, no special treatment should be allowed.

I give credit to her intelligence and I do not discredit her as person. She may have a fantastic personality, but as there has been no special mention of her assets (knowledge) being utilized for some other purpose, this I believe is unacceptable.

Sigh...
Grndr101
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium125 Posts
January 05 2012 03:15 GMT
#256
IMO it's way too early for female progamers to make an appearence, maybe in a few years we'll see some talents pop out and compete with the pros. But for now, the SC2 scene is just being discovered by the female gender.
I guess it just feels forced to me. That and calling her a player makes me roll my eyes, at least call her a trainee or something.
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
January 05 2012 03:18 GMT
#257
Naked...

Naked....

Naked....

NAKED!!!

DENIED.

User was warned for this post
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 03:21:42
January 05 2012 03:20 GMT
#258
id love to be X Rated right now with my words. she deserves a thread full of compliments imo.

sexy girl in the pic.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 05 2012 03:20 GMT
#259
i personally dont care for girls in gaming but can see the pro teams point of view (those with a brain can think of the obvious reasons).

but stop bashing on their skill, most of the posters in this thread arent even masters i bet.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
January 05 2012 03:25 GMT
#260
Poor picture choice definitely, but she's a pretty lady. Not that that matters, or makes the picture look less naked. But eh, it's a shame this has to be mentioned. Some day men will be wearing low cut tops / dresses and i will be forced to make similar comments.

We never did get those Huk shirtless pics he suggested on twitter did we? :D

Good luck to the lady~!
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