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Paulo
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands15 Posts
January 04 2012 21:56 GMT
#201
On January 05 2012 06:51 Derrida wrote:
It's interesting they don't include a full page picture of their male recruits in this thread for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=300459

It's like they WANT people flaming each other and creating PR over this looks/skills dichotomy.


Yeah, that was what i thought too.

Still interested in seeing how eSahara is going to do in 2012 with all does new additions.
101.blubb
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany38 Posts
January 04 2012 21:57 GMT
#202
hopefully this works out for all parties involved... *sigh*
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
January 04 2012 22:02 GMT
#203
Wish you the best of luck MaddeLisk
Sinfonia
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1 Post
January 04 2012 22:05 GMT
#204
I'm sure MaddeLisk will silence nonbelievers over the next week or so.

GL HF! :D
Resurgam.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
January 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#205
Wishing good luck to the MaddeLisk, I really hope we can soon have a reasonable male : female ratio with esports in the future. Not just Starcraft though, with all games that encompasses eSports.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 04 2012 22:11 GMT
#206
My kind of player. Gotta love math majors.
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Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 22:15:58
January 04 2012 22:11 GMT
#207
You know i find it oddly suspicious that every potential pro female on every team just happens to be on the Plus side of the attractive scale.

Do you guys really just expect us to believe there aren't better female players that aren't, you know, gorgeous? I dont care that you're trying to include females in the community. In fact, I think it's totally great. But don't act like you're helping anything or being the slightest bit respectful when you're still ONLY choosing hot girls. It's like starting a peewee baseball league with the rule "NO FAT CHICKS"

it's still a huge objectification of women. Now i have no problems with the idea that there are pretty girls that are good at video games. Of course there are, but i hope all these jackasses acting like we shouldn't be skeptical of all these "progressive" teams stop acting all high and mighty about it They're looking for a female gamer for publicity, or they'd be looking for the best female gamers, not just the best prettiest ones.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 22:19:08
January 04 2012 22:18 GMT
#208
On January 05 2012 07:11 Eknoid4 wrote:
You know i find it oddly suspicious that every potential pro female on every team just happens to be on the Plus side of the attractive scale.

Do you guys really just expect us to believe there aren't better female players that aren't, you know, gorgeous? I dont care that you're trying to include females in the community. In fact, I think it's totally great. But don't act like you're helping anything or being the slightest bit respectful when you're still ONLY choosing hot girls. It's like starting a peewee baseball league with the rule "NO FAT CHICKS"

it's still a huge objectification of women. Now i have no problems with the idea that there are pretty girls that are good at video games. Of course there are, but i hope all these jackasses acting like we shouldn't be skeptical of all these "progressive" teams. They're looking for a female gamer for publicity, or they'd be looking for the best female gamers, not just the best prettiest ones.



kind of have to agree. they arent all gorgeous but they are at worst decent looking. from personal experience this doesnt really correlate. but that makes sense really, because they are only recruiting these gamers because they are women to begin with. so it's already a publicity stunt. but then to add ontop of it good looks... damn

that's just so demoralizing to the OTHER not so pretty female gamers, who are probably on the whole better. iffy statement i know but im considering a multitude of factors. with that said, any team who adds a female gamer loses points from me. and will lose my support to some extent
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
January 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#209
eSahara adds FEMALE PLAYER MaddeLisk!

Is this sexism really needed?
Troublesome
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom522 Posts
January 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#210
On January 05 2012 06:56 Paulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 06:51 Derrida wrote:
It's interesting they don't include a full page picture of their male recruits in this thread for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=300459

It's like they WANT people flaming each other and creating PR over this looks/skills dichotomy.


Yeah, that was what i thought too.

Still interested in seeing how eSahara is going to do in 2012 with all does new additions.

No it really isn't interesting, it makes complete sense from a marketing perspective.
Roll with the punches.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
January 04 2012 22:22 GMT
#211
On January 05 2012 07:18 PhiliBiRD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 07:11 Eknoid4 wrote:
You know i find it oddly suspicious that every potential pro female on every team just happens to be on the Plus side of the attractive scale.

Do you guys really just expect us to believe there aren't better female players that aren't, you know, gorgeous? I dont care that you're trying to include females in the community. In fact, I think it's totally great. But don't act like you're helping anything or being the slightest bit respectful when you're still ONLY choosing hot girls. It's like starting a peewee baseball league with the rule "NO FAT CHICKS"

it's still a huge objectification of women. Now i have no problems with the idea that there are pretty girls that are good at video games. Of course there are, but i hope all these jackasses acting like we shouldn't be skeptical of all these "progressive" teams. They're looking for a female gamer for publicity, or they'd be looking for the best female gamers, not just the best prettiest ones.



kind of have to agree. they arent all gorgeous but they are at worst decent looking. from personal experience this doesnt really correlate. but that makes sense really, because they are only recruiting these gamers because they are women to begin with. so it's already a publicity stunt. but then to add ontop of it good looks... damn

that's just so demoralizing to the OTHER not so pretty female gamers, who are probably on the whole better. iffy statement i know but im considering a multitude of factors. with that said, any team who adds a female gamer loses points from me. and will lose my support to some extent


I agree with this. And if they TRULY aren't picking them that heavily by looks, then they should be compelled to find it fair to explain themselves and/or deny it, if they are TRULY picking up female gamers to raise awareness, rather than just for attention.
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akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
January 04 2012 22:24 GMT
#212
male or female, all SC players are attractive
There can be only none
VPVanek
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada238 Posts
January 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#213
I don't understand.

She is a girl yes, but you don't have to make such a big deal out of it.
FoXer
ParasitJonte
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden1768 Posts
January 04 2012 22:25 GMT
#214
if it is her "first game ever" that she really plays, and she's already in master league then that's talent. Also, phd in mathematics deserves credit.

This is different from e.g. the slayers girl.
Hello=)
Mizzy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom15 Posts
January 04 2012 22:32 GMT
#215
This is really getting ridiculous, I wish the best of luck to her but all these teams are just picking girls up as publicity and I would much prefer to see a good player who puts in time and effort and has some great potential then someone who gets on a team simply because there female, and its also really off putting for girl gamers who actually try really hard to get better and get noticed based on skill not there looks but then again why should we be surprised girls always get ahead in games despite there being loads of better people out there. Good luck I guess
RunAwayCactuar
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom54 Posts
January 04 2012 22:36 GMT
#216
Well low masters is still better than 95% of SC2 players so that's something, and getting owned by top players is the best way to improve if you're talented...so if she spends 12+ hours a day training with the pros and gets in grand master then she'll have my respect...

It is really shameless how they just add attractive female gamers...and they choose to show a "model style" picture instead of her gaming with a headset on, or at a tournament :/
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
January 04 2012 22:47 GMT
#217
ehhh... : /

Good Luck!
<3 Moonbattles
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
January 04 2012 22:49 GMT
#218
On January 05 2012 07:36 RunAwayCactuar wrote:
Well low masters is still better than 95% of SC2 players so that's something, and getting owned by top players is the best way to improve if you're talented...so if she spends 12+ hours a day training with the pros and gets in grand master then she'll have my respect...

It is really shameless how they just add attractive female gamers...and they choose to show a "model style" picture instead of her gaming with a headset on, or at a tournament :/


Adding in that low masters is better than 95% of SC2 players without mentioning that 99.5% of SC2 players are casual players seems to be a bit misleading, don't you think? I'm high masters and I know I'll never be picked up for a pro team
<3 Moonbattles
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
January 04 2012 22:52 GMT
#219
On January 05 2012 07:36 RunAwayCactuar wrote:
It is really shameless how they just add attractive female gamers...and they choose to show a "model style" picture instead of her gaming with a headset on, or at a tournament :/

I'm glad that I'm not the only one noticing that trend. It is annoying to see and unfair not only to other, anonymous women in the crowds, who are not as outgoing/extrovert and 'attractive', but also to guys, who are of equal skill level, and yet, such team would never recruit them, because they are not enough "model style". I hate this new trend when teams sign up females the way they do.
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 22:58:46
January 04 2012 22:57 GMT
#220
Sorry, but the short interview basically proves that she does not know a lot about Starcraft.

I play as zerg in Master league. My favourite strategy, well I like to play mass lings vs terran or mass muta vs ptotoss. But I'm not sure I have a favourite one..


This is an exaggerated announcement and why are you putting such a big picture in the announcement and the interview and everything else in spoilers? Seriously.
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