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SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
December 10 2011 00:58 GMT
#781
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him
MichaelJLowell
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States610 Posts
December 10 2011 00:58 GMT
#782
On December 10 2011 09:44 StarStruck wrote:

intrigue doesn't speak for everyone. You are basing shit off of someone's article.

I actually choose my words based on eight years of observing StarCraft message boards, all of which have been more deathly afraid of change than the last and opposed every single interesting game mechanic designed to replace the depth created by the user interface restrictions (twelve-unit selection, single-building selection, etc.) that Brood War players speak of in reverential tones. My position on the topic is rooted in a longer history than you think.
http://www.learntocounter.com - I'm a "known troll" so please disconnect your kid's computer when I am on the forums.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7229 Posts
December 10 2011 01:06 GMT
#783
man that proxy banshee would have driven me fucking nuts watching his stream you wonder where it was and wish hed watch the replay ;D
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 10 2011 01:12 GMT
#784
Someone needs to sixpool him, I wanna see his reaction
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 01:14:43
December 10 2011 01:14 GMT
#785
On December 10 2011 09:58 MichaelJLowell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:44 StarStruck wrote:

intrigue doesn't speak for everyone. You are basing shit off of someone's article.

I actually choose my words based on eight years of observing StarCraft message boards, all of which have been more deathly afraid of change than the last and opposed every single interesting game mechanic designed to replace the depth created by the user interface restrictions (twelve-unit selection, single-building selection, etc.) that Brood War players speak of in reverential tones. My position on the topic is rooted in a longer history than you think.


Then you are completely full of shit. I remember you very well when SC2 was announced. I've been around since the beginning buck-o and like I just said, I know what you are all about.

Sweeping generalizations get us nowhere. Plus, now you're going on a different tangent in general (U.I.? Pllllleassse) and dismissed the previous points I've made (skim the last eight pages of the CH thread and tell me otherwise)

You want to continue to spin doctor things like you did in the 4 MBS versus non-MBS threads that went on for hundreds of pages each then go ahead. Make my day.

Your words have as much meaning as they did back then. Usually people grow. Unfortunately your still stuck in past. ._.

I'll make it easier for you to find what I said in the CH thread. In short, if the four pillars do crossover. I expect one thing and one thing only: more competition at the top end. Certain players will get left behind. Nothing more; nothing less.

So stop with your sweeping generalizations already. It's getting fucking old.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
December 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#786
I think he just wants to play warcraft IV.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 01:26:26
December 10 2011 01:24 GMT
#787
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual information do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 play?
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
December 10 2011 01:26 GMT
#788
I am very sure that fOrGG has more than one build/style or ability or whatever you want to say in order to play this game. He's probably practicing this build until it's perfect and he can react to anything/everything his opponent does. Then he will move onto another build and do the exact same.

These guys play the damn game for a living, I am 100% sure that they know how to train better than any of us
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 01:28:36
December 10 2011 01:27 GMT
#789
On December 10 2011 10:24 Razuik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual data do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 skill?


INC arguements about BW pros beating BW pros in sc2 now hahahahahaha

Seriously it's getting out of control and it's just hilarious

"Oh yeah he was a-teamer, well this guy is a higher a-teamer, well this guy was a lower-s class player, well this giuy was a mid-range s class player" and it'll go on forever until some 16 year old kid with no experiance in ethier one will come in and wipe the floor with every single BW/SC2 player and we'll forget about ethier ones every existing. Probably not for another couple years though.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 01:29 GMT
#790
It's not even CH. -_- and I already addressed that guy.
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 01:30:39
December 10 2011 01:30 GMT
#791
On December 10 2011 10:27 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:24 Razuik wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual data do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 skill?


INC arguements about BW pros beating BW pros in sc2 now hahahahahaha

Seriously it's getting out of control and it's just hilarious

"Oh yeah he was a-teamer, well this guy is a higher a-teamer, well this guy was a lower-s class player, well this giuy was a mid-range s class player" and it'll go on forever

I've honestly never made a post on that subject. Also, I wasn't trying to start an argument about who's better (BW pros or sc2 pros). His post just didn't make a bit of sense if you really think about it.
MichaelJLowell
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States610 Posts
December 10 2011 02:09 GMT
#792
On December 10 2011 10:14 StarStruck wrote:

You want to continue to spin doctor things like you did in the 4 MBS versus non-MBS threads that went on for hundreds of pages each then go ahead. Make my day.

My first post on this forum was in July of 2010. What the blue piss of Manner Mary are you talking about?

On December 10 2011 10:18 Boblion wrote:
I think he just wants to play warcraft IV.

I would have liked to play a better real-time strategy game than Warcraft II, StarCraft: Brood War, or Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne, but I guess you can't win them all!
http://www.learntocounter.com - I'm a "known troll" so please disconnect your kid's computer when I am on the forums.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
December 10 2011 02:11 GMT
#793
watched him stream definiately crazy good micro, as for macro i dont know cuz none of his game last more than 15mins lol
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
December 10 2011 04:21 GMT
#794
[image loading]
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
December 10 2011 04:27 GMT
#795
On December 10 2011 10:24 Razuik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual information do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 play?


that hydra is a really fucking good bw player, and he has an injury in one eye iirc.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
December 10 2011 04:35 GMT
#796
Does hydra stream? I'd be interested. Also stop with these nonsense BW vs SC2 posts! It doesn't matter if Fin is gonna win GSL or not, he's already doing a great job raising the skill ceiling and so will probably other BW pros if they switch over. SC2 is considered to be easier because it's new and not figured out and didn't have an expansion yet that might introduce new wonderful units.
fLDm
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 05:51:52
December 10 2011 05:51 GMT
#797
On December 10 2011 10:27 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:24 Razuik wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual data do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 skill?


INC arguements about BW pros beating BW pros in sc2 now hahahahahaha

Seriously it's getting out of control and it's just hilarious

"Oh yeah he was a-teamer, well this guy is a higher a-teamer, well this guy was a lower-s class player, well this giuy was a mid-range s class player" and it'll go on forever until some 16 year old kid with no experiance in ethier one will come in and wipe the floor with every single BW/SC2 player and we'll forget about ethier ones every existing. Probably not for another couple years though.


Do you realize you just said a 16 year old with no experience in EITHER game(including SC2 in that statement there), will come one day and beat everyone at SC2? Come now, at least make some sense in your post. And assuming that previous RTS experience and talent has any correlation at all on performance(which, you know, almost every pro who has any sort of winning record has some RTS experience under the belt), then Hydra beating fOrGG based off of that assumption doesn't seem so farfetched.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
December 10 2011 05:57 GMT
#798
On December 10 2011 14:51 Weedk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 10:27 Talack wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:24 Razuik wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual data do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 skill?


INC arguements about BW pros beating BW pros in sc2 now hahahahahaha

Seriously it's getting out of control and it's just hilarious

"Oh yeah he was a-teamer, well this guy is a higher a-teamer, well this guy was a lower-s class player, well this giuy was a mid-range s class player" and it'll go on forever until some 16 year old kid with no experiance in ethier one will come in and wipe the floor with every single BW/SC2 player and we'll forget about ethier ones every existing. Probably not for another couple years though.


Do you realize you just said a 16 year old with no experience in EITHER game(including SC2 in that statement there), will come one day and beat everyone at SC2? Come now, at least make some sense in your post. And assuming that previous RTS experience and talent has any correlation at all on performance(which, you know, almost every pro who has any sort of winning record has some RTS experience under the belt), then Hydra beating fOrGG based off of that assumption doesn't seem so farfetched.


I thought that's how Flash came about? Out of nowhere at the age of 15? The guy you quote has already stated that it wouldn't happen for a couple more years, and it's not that improbable.
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 15:20:52
December 10 2011 15:16 GMT
#799
On December 10 2011 14:57 Oktyabr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:51 Weedk wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:27 Talack wrote:
On December 10 2011 10:24 Razuik wrote:
On December 10 2011 09:58 SkimGuy wrote:
On December 10 2011 08:40 tubs wrote:
Finally seeing the mortal side of fOrGG. He just went up against CJEntushydra (a current A+ class BW player) and has lost a few times in a row. His hyper aggressive style doesn't quite work on BW zergs.

Then again, he definitely seems to be fooling around and trying out timing attack builds, but it'd be interesting to see how he does against other Zergs that have solid defence.

Well I would imagine that Hydra could beat ForGG in either game easily. He's a much better player than him

How can you say that Hydra can EASILY beat Forgg in sc2? What 100% factual data do you have on Hydra's Starcraft 2 skill?


INC arguements about BW pros beating BW pros in sc2 now hahahahahaha

Seriously it's getting out of control and it's just hilarious

"Oh yeah he was a-teamer, well this guy is a higher a-teamer, well this guy was a lower-s class player, well this giuy was a mid-range s class player" and it'll go on forever until some 16 year old kid with no experiance in ethier one will come in and wipe the floor with every single BW/SC2 player and we'll forget about ethier ones every existing. Probably not for another couple years though.


Do you realize you just said a 16 year old with no experience in EITHER game(including SC2 in that statement there), will come one day and beat everyone at SC2? Come now, at least make some sense in your post. And assuming that previous RTS experience and talent has any correlation at all on performance(which, you know, almost every pro who has any sort of winning record has some RTS experience under the belt), then Hydra beating fOrGG based off of that assumption doesn't seem so farfetched.


I thought that's how Flash came about? Out of nowhere at the age of 15? The guy you quote has already stated that it wouldn't happen for a couple more years, and it's not that improbable.


I was pointing out that his statement was illogical because he stated that the kid would have no experience in SC2 as well. Flash had a ton of experience before he signed on with KT. His statement basically says that the kid will pick up the game and magically become god the first time he plays it, whether that was his intention or not.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 10 2011 15:19 GMT
#800
On December 10 2011 13:21 Moonling wrote:
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Uhh that wont go easy with the BW community hehe
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