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algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
December 06 2011 13:54 GMT
#161
Orb: I really like your casting. Your analysis is very strong and you are easy to listen too. As a few others have said I've noticed at times you talk too much or too fast for your co-caster to step in and give there opinion. Remember you can always stop calling the play and take a breath and Gretorp will pick up for you there.
Piet Friet
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands36 Posts
December 08 2011 01:11 GMT
#162
Casting is excellent apart from ZvZ (needs some work) but please clean up the mess in the room or put a screen behind you. Whenever the camera is on you it's very destracting, almost annoying.
StrinterN
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark531 Posts
December 08 2011 01:21 GMT
#163
On December 04 2011 10:58 Rekrul wrote:
i think you're doing a great job with analysis but i'd like to see a little more personality and humor to flavor it up

This what almost the exactly what i thought You are imo one of the better "analytic casters" but some "passion/personality" would be a nice touch!
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
December 08 2011 01:23 GMT
#164
Did you bring back the misspelled thunder sticks like I asked?
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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
December 08 2011 01:23 GMT
#165
I haven't heard you cast a whole lot and was pleasantly surprised. Your analysis seemed spot on. My only nit picks are to talk a wee bit slower, it seemed like your used to solo casting and filling up space. Just keep working on your dynamic with other casters and your golden.
Cheers and thanks for the work this past weekend!
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CGolden
Profile Joined December 2010
40 Posts
December 08 2011 01:32 GMT
#166
Ive only followed your casts for a little while but ii can laready tell your a great caster. Its also nice since u play sc2 and are masters that u understand the game more than alot of commentators with the exception of Tastosis.
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Chylo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 01:51:23
December 08 2011 01:50 GMT
#167
You're doing a great job orb. Probably the most underrated caster.

Positives;

1) Extremely clear speaking, you hardly ever misspeak
2) Excellent analysis, you're always really specific about where somebody messed up.
3) Great game knowledge,
4) no annoying habits, just really enjoyable, professional might be the right word.

Negatives: (constructive criticism maybe)

1) Maybe try to be a little more specific about where the winning person went right, ie, you're really good at #2 above, try to switch it around on the positive side very specifically about the guy who won


That's all I can think of. I don't agree with the people saying inject more humor and your personality. You do enough of this and humor isn't really needed. Listening to artosis and tasteless say "this guy is so good" "this guy is ACTUALLY so so good" or the nestea jokes for 5 minutes isn't enjoyable.

Professional casters for other sports don't try to be humorous all day. I would just say improve your positives.

I don't even know what race you play and I've heard you cast a lot. That's pretty good at being unbiased. Maybe try to increase your knowledge of the races you don't know as well.
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
December 08 2011 01:53 GMT
#168
Right now you are in the top 5 or even top 3 in my book. Just keep doing what your doing with the great analysis.
Hope to see you casting at even more events in the future as you bring a lot of understanding and enjoyment with your casting...
En Taro Adun, Executor!
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
December 11 2011 00:09 GMT
#169
Just thought I would say, I really enjoyed your casting in the TL open tonight, quickly becoming one of my favourites, I personally really enjoyed your combo with gretorp too :D
How many bears could bear grylls grill if bear grylls coud grill bears?
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
December 11 2011 00:20 GMT
#170
Actually I love your casting, you are very analytic and i appreciate even the little things you are observant about like build order and even building placements, oh and you seem knowledgeable about all races as opposed to a few - Good.
To be better like other said some more personality... from what i seen tend to talk a bit linear, or either hyper fast.
I think you could become similar to an artosis, just slow down a bit, you don't have to analyze everything but just focus on the meaningful stuff, that should make it so you don't have to talk in rapid fire at times. Instead you can have a varied pace to your speech maybe insightful calm and steady lows, screaming highs... things like that. Also maybe work in trademark things like artosis squeel "IMMM NESTAEAA" etc. would be a good way to inject some life in casts and differentiate yourself.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 23:04:14
February 01 2012 22:57 GMT
#171
Orb you're a smart funny dude, I hope you keep casting because you come in second after Artosis & Tasteless to me (I view them as an inseparable unit). The highlight of your casting is simply that you make intelligent, insightful commentary, and explain how the layout of the map affects the play style (referring to your casting of the Korean weekly a few weeks ago). Also your jokes are kind of interesting and different from everyone else who seems to copy Artosis/tasteless in some way .

Personally I think you do really well alone; most other casters sound mediocre to me and just do a very loud play by play or make the same unoriginal, tiresome jokes, and so I feel it would degrade the casting quality overall.

I also like how you actually call players out when they do something silly, like on the Korean weekly when a player just let an scv scout into their base when they could have raised the supply depot . But you do it in a friendly yet exasperated way, so it sounds good.
Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
February 14 2012 01:23 GMT
#172
In my opinion, your casting is fine Orb. However, your constantly missing things that are happening on the mini-map which take away from the overall enjoyment of your casts. It's understandable to miss stuff during a hectic portion of a game, but I've seen you miss things such as really important battles and only end up seeing them 5 seconds afterwards where as you were previously just looking at bases on the map. So to sum up, casting is great, however, if you want to make the most enjoyable casts, work on spotting as much as you can on your minimap and be on top of things such as main engagements.
:D
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
February 14 2012 04:31 GMT
#173
On February 14 2012 10:23 Cocoba wrote:
In my opinion, your casting is fine Orb. However, your constantly missing things that are happening on the mini-map which take away from the overall enjoyment of your casts. It's understandable to miss stuff during a hectic portion of a game, but I've seen you miss things such as really important battles and only end up seeing them 5 seconds afterwards where as you were previously just looking at bases on the map. So to sum up, casting is great, however, if you want to make the most enjoyable casts, work on spotting as much as you can on your minimap and be on top of things such as main engagements.


Thanks, this is something I constantly try to work on. Being the caster AND the cameraman at the same time is a lot of work and pressure, and often times it's just too much for your brain to keep up with everything at once. Being colorblind and having color combinations like red/green or blue/purple (for example) certainly doesn't help either.

I want to get better but it's something that's quite hard to work on. You might pay attention just fine to the minimap 99% of the time, but all it takes is over a 6-hour casting block messing up 1 time and happening to be tunnel-visioning during the moment something important happens and BAM, it's too late when you go look at the aftermath.

Still there is no excuse, it is just something I will have to work to improve as much as possible.

If players would actually start following tournament rules and use the mandatory color assignments this wouldn't be nearly as big of a problem though...
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Hexxed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States202 Posts
February 14 2012 04:35 GMT
#174
Personally I think you are a tool. Your casting comes off as obnoxious and arrogant. Which isn't far from the kid I met at a lan. The best thing you can do for your casting is not do it anymore.

User was temp banned for this post.
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Rockztar
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark210 Posts
February 14 2012 04:45 GMT
#175
On February 14 2012 13:35 Hexxed wrote:
Personally I think you are a tool. Your casting comes off as obnoxious and arrogant. Which isn't far from the kid I met at a lan. The best thing you can do for your casting is not do it anymore.

Sounds like this streamer is jelly at Orb's popularity.

Love your casting Orb! I didn't like it so much at first, when you just started out for NASL, but you've easily become one of your casters that can combine enthusiasm as well as game knowledge. It makes me sad about your colour blindness. Should force the players to pick other colours lawl. Anyways keep developing the way you have, can only go the right way from there. Hope you get hired for some of the live tournament events would be awesome.
Good luck!
ASLRightNow
Profile Joined August 2011
United States45 Posts
February 29 2012 19:03 GMT
#176
Orb, I hope this feedback helps!

Some constructive feedback:
1) the enhanced colors is not a pleasing way to view the game, as it is something most players and viewers aren't accustomed to seeing.
2) the red haze comes down when you read chat. You react far too much to the trolls and sometimes become angry. Also, you sometimes give off a vibe of not caring for your audience. In one Korean weekly I caught you saying "well I don't think you all understand how this works" in response to some analysis by chat. This shows a bit of superiority. You also bad mouth your chat sometimes, we know it's directed at trolls, but it still feels like it is at us.
3) some of your reactions to in game events are easy to identify as not genuine. For instance, a game winning push, the emotion is somewhat empty. Having an emotional reaction to the game is very entertaining, that is what makes casters great.

I hope this helps man. I hope to see you grow as a successful caster.
Right Now!
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 00:00:09
March 04 2012 23:36 GMT
#177
Your casting today raped my ears bro, please fix the mic. Also your missing a lot of crucial moments in the game.

I think my I have to go to the doctors tomorrow, my ears are bleeding.
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Ectrid
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany51 Posts
March 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#178
i like his casting, he has good critical thinking, a clear speech and good deep analytical favors.

but, you could work on a more positive attitude, perhaps some storys and jokes.

i can see him beeing a good dual caster with a funny and entertaining co-caster
Nobody is more a slave than the one who considers himself free without being free
Rorschach
Profile Joined May 2010
United States623 Posts
March 05 2012 00:00 GMT
#179
On March 01 2012 04:03 ASLRightNow wrote:
Orb, I hope this feedback helps!

Some constructive feedback:
1) the enhanced colors is not a pleasing way to view the game, as it is something most players and viewers aren't accustomed to seeing.
2) the red haze comes down when you read chat. You react far too much to the trolls and sometimes become angry. Also, you sometimes give off a vibe of not caring for your audience. In one Korean weekly I caught you saying "well I don't think you all understand how this works" in response to some analysis by chat. This shows a bit of superiority. You also bad mouth your chat sometimes, we know it's directed at trolls, but it still feels like it is at us.
3) some of your reactions to in game events are easy to identify as not genuine. For instance, a game winning push, the emotion is somewhat empty. Having an emotional reaction to the game is very entertaining, that is what makes casters great.

I hope this helps man. I hope to see you grow as a successful caster.



I disagree, I really appreciate orb separating his casting from the emotion of the game.
I hate when casters try and over hype shit.
It gets old every other game to hear "those are the best FF I have ever seen" and takes away credibility....
Nothing wrong with getting excited once in a awhile BUT orb has a near perfect balance of casting + analysis....
orb, don't change a damn thing!
En Taro Adun, Executor!
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
March 05 2012 00:03 GMT
#180
Just wanted to note how amazing you are, so much criticism in this thread (sigh)!

When you finally have someone obs. -ing for you, I'm sure you will go from great to fantastic! Keep up the good work...
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
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