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On March 08 2012 22:56 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
As a gay dude, I'm curious why the use of the word 'nigger' (racial biggotry) is infinitely worse than 'faggot' (sexuality biggotry).
We're supposed to sit there and take it, while one use of 'nigger' is world-ending? Nice guys, nice :/ In real life at least almost no one uses these words. Not in England anyway. For some reason they're acceptable on the internet primarily from people from Scandinavia and the United States.
In germany "gay" ("schwul") is pretty popular to describe everything bad. But the n-word is almost extinct here, at least.
Because you are african american you get offended because the n word is a slave word? or because it's a slander to all african americans?
I guess the fact that the n word is used as a severe insult is bad enough, is it not? I agree, it has nothing to do with him personally, but if my last name would become popular for insulting people, i would get pissed off at that as well. Nigger comes from negró, or even further, "niger" - which just means "black". I would be insulted as well i guess (well in the internet as a german you receive a healthy "nazi" every now and then, pisses me off - so i can understand that).
If i misunderstood you, just forget that.
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Please EG, just get rid of that guy.
orb behaves like this 12 year old kiddie, flaming, bullying others. And when an adult comes, hes sayin "it wasn't me". The least thing he could have done, was admitting, and (if he was smart) apologizing, but he prefered to act like a coward. Sorry the world got enough of you already, i dont need more of those in my beloved SC2.
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Wow what a witch hunt for Orb. Get over yourselves people, ppl BM all the time and there are much bigger dickheads out there who BM way worse and actually mean the shit they say (like Idra/Destiny, both douches).
If you non of you can understand why Orb is raging, maybe you should actually get good at the damn game get up into mid/high masters then realise how frustrating it can be.
I agree the words he used weren't the best choice when it comes too BM'ing people but in no way am I gonna just jump on the hate bandwagon cause of this.
Hell even whitera will make comments when laddering and stuff. I can't remember the tourny but when he played Puma and got owned by him he typed 'terran just too good' or something, which is BM and shows he was frustrated.
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Love your casting, very insightful, great game sense. If MLG wants me to pay a nickel for their next PPV they're going to need to up their casters; screw a tumba and robin. Put Orb in there.
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On March 08 2012 22:57 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 22:55 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2012 22:47 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:40 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2012 22:38 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
As a gay dude, I'm curious why the use of the word 'nigger' (racial biggotry) is infinitely worse than 'faggot' (sexuality biggotry).
We're supposed to sit there and take it, while one use of 'nigger' is world-ending? Nice guys, nice :/ It isn't. It's exactly the same, at least to this community. Unfortunately some people are trying to apply the definition used in the 1700s, and not the definition used in 2012 in the online gaming community. Which kinda makes it worse really, because the racism that is implied in the word 'nigger' is mostly (not completely) stamped out in the western world at least, whereas the homophobia implied in the word 'faggot' still runs much more rampant. Logically to me, it just makes the brouhaha here even worse :/ Nah, they don't carry the same weight as their root definitions. They're just general use derogatory terms in this community. Like "dickhead", do they actually mean your head is a penis? No. It's just a general use derogatory term. The root definitions being the bullying gay kids receive in school that black kids don't really anymore? To me, current issues carry more weight than past ones (however important!) Cool, you acknowledge the importance of time, now think about setting. If someone called you a faggot online, would you be offended? I think you would, but you shouldn't. It's impossible that they know you are actually homosexual, so they're not actually insulting an attribute associated with your person. They're frustrated and their only recourse is to throw out a general use derogatory term. The only way I could explain this simpler is on the internet these terms are like birdshot out of a shotgun, whereas if someone in real life who actually knew your situation used it on you, it would be like a sniper rifle. What does more damage, birdshot or a 50 cal bullet to the head? People like you are the worst of the worst.
Sorry that I can actually rationalize internet slang. I'll try my best to live life with my blinders on, being offended at every turn, as you have shown me the light.
Have you ever heard of slang? Definitions of words depend on the setting. Think about it.
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this just shows how bad as a person he is, his casts are full with fake enthusiasm, he lacks knowledge and is confirmed virgin, Thats ALL.
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On March 08 2012 22:59 Pughy wrote:
Wow what a witch hunt for Orb. Get over yourselves people, ppl BM all the time and there are much bigger dickheads out there who BM way worse and actually mean the shit they say (like Idra/Destiny, both douches).
If you non of you can understand why Orb is raging, maybe you should actually get good at the damn game get up into mid/high masters then realise how frustrating it can be.
I agree the words he used weren't the best choice when it comes too BM'ing people but in no way am I gonna just jump on the hate bandwagon cause of this.
Hell even whitera will make comments when laddering and stuff. I can't remember the tourny but when he played Puma and got owned by him he typed 'terran just too good' or something, which is BM and shows he was frustrated.
calling somebody nigger, and saying that terran is too good is pretty much the same thing, your right.
and BTW: its not about 1 insult, its simply the personality that should not be tolerated in a community like ours. Nobody got a problem when somebody is frustrated and BMs from time to time. But this orb just got some serious problems, anger issues or whatever. This guy should go outside, learn how to handle problems in RL, learn about tolerance, friendship, love and all the other positive things out there. He hasnt got enough of them yet. And I (and i know a lot of other ppl) dont want to watch a tournament casted by a such a guy. I want love, no hate. and orb can only deliver hate.
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On March 08 2012 22:55 seiferoth10 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 22:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2012 22:47 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:40 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2012 22:38 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
As a gay dude, I'm curious why the use of the word 'nigger' (racial biggotry) is infinitely worse than 'faggot' (sexuality biggotry).
We're supposed to sit there and take it, while one use of 'nigger' is world-ending? Nice guys, nice :/ It isn't. It's exactly the same, at least to this community. Unfortunately some people are trying to apply the definition used in the 1700s, and not the definition used in 2012 in the online gaming community. Which kinda makes it worse really, because the racism that is implied in the word 'nigger' is mostly (not completely) stamped out in the western world at least, whereas the homophobia implied in the word 'faggot' still runs much more rampant. Logically to me, it just makes the brouhaha here even worse :/ Nah, they don't carry the same weight as their root definitions. They're just general use derogatory terms in this community. Like "dickhead", do they actually mean your head is a penis? No. It's just a general use derogatory term. The root definitions being the bullying gay kids receive in school that black kids don't really anymore? To me, current issues carry more weight than past ones (however important!) Cool, you acknowledge the importance of time, now think about setting. If someone called you a faggot online, would you be offended? I think you would, but you shouldn't. It's impossible that they know you are actually homosexual, so they're not actually insulting an attribute associated with your person. They're frustrated and their only recourse is to throw out a general use derogatory term. The only way I could explain this simpler is on the internet these terms are like birdshot out of a shotgun, whereas if someone in real life who actually knew your situation used it on you, it would be like a sniper rifle. What does more damage, birdshot or a 50 cal bullet to the head?
So calling every single person a slur online is okay, because the jerk can't *possibly* truly mean it, because he doesn't know their true identities? It only matters when they know you?
What the hell is wrong with you? People need to be educated so that they know that even saying those things to strangers isn't acceptable.
It doesn't change the fact that the jerk is using slurs offensively, which shows his intent to put you down using a slur. Since when are slurs used as compliments? How often are you playing a game of StarCraft, and your opponent says "gl hf, my fellow #$%(^# !  " Of course you don't see that. You're going to see slurs when your opponent is being a bad-mannered jackass. You're going to see "stfu $%^&*)" and that's that. You have a right to be offended at his terminology, but you may be able to brush it off because he's clearly just an ignorant, immature sore loser.
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On March 08 2012 23:03 krisss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 22:59 Pughy wrote:
Wow what a witch hunt for Orb. Get over yourselves people, ppl BM all the time and there are much bigger dickheads out there who BM way worse and actually mean the shit they say (like Idra/Destiny, both douches).
If you non of you can understand why Orb is raging, maybe you should actually get good at the damn game get up into mid/high masters then realise how frustrating it can be.
I agree the words he used weren't the best choice when it comes too BM'ing people but in no way am I gonna just jump on the hate bandwagon cause of this.
Hell even whitera will make comments when laddering and stuff. I can't remember the tourny but when he played Puma and got owned by him he typed 'terran just too good' or something, which is BM and shows he was frustrated. calling somebody nigger, and saying that terran is too good is pretty much the same thing, your right.
Theres always someone who takes what you say and tries to one up you with retarded comparisons.
Did I say they were the same thing? No i fucking didn't you moron, I was just pointing out that even the nicest of ppl get frustrated at ladder.
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On March 08 2012 22:59 Pughy wrote:
Hell even whitera will make comments when laddering and stuff. I can't remember the tourny but when he played Puma and got owned by him he typed 'terran just too good' or something, which is BM and shows he was frustrated.
So..
"All he knows is one build that's all he can do of every single game of every single matchup cuz he's a fucking waste of human life, and a waste of human resources on this planet and he honestly deserves to be dead, like I mean that 100% percent sincerely. I often joke around about this kinda stuff but, um, I would actually be much happier if that guy were just killed in preferably the most painful way possible to be honest. I'm not even sadistic, in fact pain in others usually brings me pain, personally, but not at people like that, people like that I would love to just watch that guy burn, like honestly just be in the most amount of pain for hours and hours. I would revel in that."
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"terran just too good"
.. mhkay. Yeah, after seeing both statements side by side, it makes sense. Really. Pretty obvious how similar these are, is it not?
Did I say they were the same thing? No i fucking didn't you moron, I was just pointing out that even the nicest of ppl get frustrated at ladder.
Of course, everyone of us gets frustrated every once in a while. But how do you compare these two statements and call them "similar"? Orb doesnt get frustrated, he pretty much has a stroke every game.
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On March 08 2012 23:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 22:55 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:48 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2012 22:47 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:40 marvellosity wrote:On March 08 2012 22:38 seiferoth10 wrote:On March 08 2012 22:36 marvellosity wrote:
As a gay dude, I'm curious why the use of the word 'nigger' (racial biggotry) is infinitely worse than 'faggot' (sexuality biggotry).
We're supposed to sit there and take it, while one use of 'nigger' is world-ending? Nice guys, nice :/ It isn't. It's exactly the same, at least to this community. Unfortunately some people are trying to apply the definition used in the 1700s, and not the definition used in 2012 in the online gaming community. Which kinda makes it worse really, because the racism that is implied in the word 'nigger' is mostly (not completely) stamped out in the western world at least, whereas the homophobia implied in the word 'faggot' still runs much more rampant. Logically to me, it just makes the brouhaha here even worse :/ Nah, they don't carry the same weight as their root definitions. They're just general use derogatory terms in this community. Like "dickhead", do they actually mean your head is a penis? No. It's just a general use derogatory term. The root definitions being the bullying gay kids receive in school that black kids don't really anymore? To me, current issues carry more weight than past ones (however important!) Cool, you acknowledge the importance of time, now think about setting. If someone called you a faggot online, would you be offended? I think you would, but you shouldn't. It's impossible that they know you are actually homosexual, so they're not actually insulting an attribute associated with your person. They're frustrated and their only recourse is to throw out a general use derogatory term. The only way I could explain this simpler is on the internet these terms are like birdshot out of a shotgun, whereas if someone in real life who actually knew your situation used it on you, it would be like a sniper rifle. What does more damage, birdshot or a 50 cal bullet to the head? So calling every single person a slur online is okay, because the jerk can't *possibly* truly mean it, because he doesn't know their true identities? It only matters when they know you? What the hell is wrong with you? People need to be educated so that they know that even saying those things to strangers isn't acceptable. It doesn't change the fact that the jerk is using slurs offensively, which shows his intent to put you down using a slur. Since when are slurs used as compliments? How often are you playing a game of StarCraft, and your opponent says "gl hf, my fellow #$%(^# ! " Of course you don't see that. You're going to see slurs when your opponent is being a bad-mannered jackass. You're going to see "stfu $%^&*)" and that's that. You have a right to be offended at his terminology, but you may be able to brush it off because he's clearly just an ignorant, immature sore loser.
Do you know what derogatory means? And, it's a general insult, not a personal insult. It's still an insult, but it's not a heat seeking missile insult directed at a quality of your person intended to offend you.
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On March 08 2012 23:06 m4inbrain wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 22:59 Pughy wrote:
Hell even whitera will make comments when laddering and stuff. I can't remember the tourny but when he played Puma and got owned by him he typed 'terran just too good' or something, which is BM and shows he was frustrated. So.. "All he knows is one build that's all he can do of every single game of every single matchup cuz he's a fucking waste of human life, and a waste of human resources on this planet and he honestly deserves to be dead, like I mean that 100% percent sincerely. I often joke around about this kinda stuff but, um, I would actually be much happier if that guy were just killed in preferably the most painful way possible to be honest. I'm not even sadistic, in fact pain in others usually brings me pain, personally, but not at people like that, people like that I would love to just watch that guy burn, like honestly just be in the most amount of pain for hours and hours. I would revel in that." = "terran just too good" .. mhkay. Yeah, after seeing both statements side by side, it makes sense. Really. Pretty obvious how similar these are, is it not?
Read my post above yyou absolute mongchild.
Incase your too stupid to know what I'm getting at:
'Did I say they were the same thing? No i fucking didn't you moron, I was just pointing out that even the nicest of ppl get frustrated at ladder.'
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It's so funny, some people act civilized infront of the cameras, but immediately when it comes to it, they show their true side, the true devil that hides within them. Orb just showed who he really is, and now everyone knows....
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On March 08 2012 23:09 Protoss-Bah wrote:
It's so funny, some people act civilized infront of the cameras, but immediately when it comes to it, they show their true side, the true devil that hides within them. Orb just showed who he really is, and now everyone knows....
...Most people already knew he was like this z_z
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On March 08 2012 23:09 Protoss-Bah wrote:
It's so funny, some people act civilized infront of the cameras, but immediately when it comes to it, they show their true side, the true devil that hides within them. Orb just showed who he really is, and now everyone knows....
that hes a virgin douchebag who lives with his parents. lol
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+ Show Spoiler +]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTnM4jd-P1Y
video related to the general discussion.
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On March 08 2012 23:01 lamz wrote:
this just shows how bad as a person he is, his casts are full with fake enthusiasm, he lacks knowledge and is confirmed virgin, Thats ALL.
Well I guess we know who recently got turned down by orb  You seem a little bitter.
Commenting on others' sexual relationships isn't the way to go, Iamz. Has nothing to do with ability to cast or play the game.
On March 08 2012 23:10 lamz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 23:09 Protoss-Bah wrote:
It's so funny, some people act civilized infront of the cameras, but immediately when it comes to it, they show their true side, the true devil that hides within them. Orb just showed who he really is, and now everyone knows.... that hes a virgin douchebag who lives with his parents. lol
Yeahhh... Reported.
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On March 08 2012 23:09 Pughy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2012 23:06 m4inbrain wrote:On March 08 2012 22:59 Pughy wrote:
Hell even whitera will make comments when laddering and stuff. I can't remember the tourny but when he played Puma and got owned by him he typed 'terran just too good' or something, which is BM and shows he was frustrated. So.. "All he knows is one build that's all he can do of every single game of every single matchup cuz he's a fucking waste of human life, and a waste of human resources on this planet and he honestly deserves to be dead, like I mean that 100% percent sincerely. I often joke around about this kinda stuff but, um, I would actually be much happier if that guy were just killed in preferably the most painful way possible to be honest. I'm not even sadistic, in fact pain in others usually brings me pain, personally, but not at people like that, people like that I would love to just watch that guy burn, like honestly just be in the most amount of pain for hours and hours. I would revel in that." = "terran just too good" .. mhkay. Yeah, after seeing both statements side by side, it makes sense. Really. Pretty obvious how similar these are, is it not? Read my post above yyou absolute mongchild. Incase your too stupid to know what I'm getting at: 'Did I say they were the same thing? No i fucking didn't you moron, I was just pointing out that even the nicest of ppl get frustrated at ladder.'
And what has that to do with the "problem at hand" at all? You compare someone who isnt even bm when he bms with someone like orb and wonder why no-one follows your argument? Your random insults dont help your case either, but i guess someone who runs around drooling and shouting "mongchild" wont get that. Idiot.
Edit: also, would everybody please stop about that virgin-business? I couldnt care less, really. Half of the people here laughing about that are virgins themself, so just cut it. As if being a virgin makes you a bad person, grow up.
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Will be doing my best to avoid watching anything Orb is involved in after all this, I'll just leave it at that.
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Casting sounded good lasstnight! You mix really well in Geoff. Can't wait to hear about Demuslims game with BCs. Please ask h about it tonight!
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