EPTWell.... EG bought it but something inside of me says they really know the truth too.
orb Casting Feedback Thread - Page 17
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Well.... EG bought it but something inside of me says they really know the truth too. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:35 Shinzon wrote: jesus christ, are all of you people angels or something? Have every single one of you not BM'd AT ALL on ladder before? You are making it seem like Orb murdered someone. He says it wasn't him. It's his fault he shared his account. Unless there is some form of proof that it WAS him, he's innocent. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty? Oh but this is a witch hunt where Orb will be crucified by public opinion and possibly forced out of a job most of you would love to have. http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/qmvdb/orb_really_loves_the_n_word_on_ladder/c3yuv52 | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:37 nvs. wrote: The blatant lying is the worst part, how stupid does he think people are? Well.... EG bought it but something inside of me says they really know the truth too. EG obviously know the the truth but are covering him because he is a pretty good friend of them. | ||
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nappeee
Finland169 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:35 Shinzon wrote: jesus christ, are all of you people angels or something? Have every single one of you not BM'd AT ALL on ladder before? You are making it seem like Orb murdered someone. He says it wasn't him. It's his fault he shared his account. Unless there is some form of proof that it WAS him, he's innocent. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty? Oh but this is a witch hunt where Orb will be crucified by public opinion and possibly forced out of a job most of you would love to have. I would absolutely love to have his job. But the thing is if i somehow would get it and be representing the EG and most of all SC community, i would never in my life even consider throwing racist comments at ppl and saying the things he did.. that is just not normal for a guy in his position. | ||
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BearDK
Denmark101 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:40 BearDK wrote: it is obvious that orb did not have any racist intentions using "nigger" as a swear word. it's the same with people saying "faggot", 99 % of the time there are no homophobic intentions behind it. "nigger" and "faggot" are just words that have (sadly) been incorporated into the english language as common swear words, and I'll bet my balls that Orb had no racist intentions. Not this discussion again.... It's a bad thing to say, end of story. | ||
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Ventor
United States336 Posts
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Shinzon
United States41 Posts
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Mordlikeafox
Ireland43 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:47 Ventor wrote: Being an African American myself, words cannot describe my hate towards orb because of the slander that came from him. My feedback to you orb is to live as a slave the rest of your life and learn what it means to be called a ..... have you lived as a slave for you entire life? didnt know slaves were allowed computers or starcraft 2 accounts alabama is more progressive than I'd assumed | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:49 Shinzon wrote: A thousand times this. Rage is obviously a problem. Some people deal with differently. If he chooses to use words, instead of slamming his face into a wall, let that be his way to vent. He obviously doesn't mean to be racist, it's everyone taking his rage out of context that is going to crucify him in every single discussion about this. I've moderated his stream for a long time. Yeah he rages. He uses vulgarity. He's passionate about the game and ladder can be frustrating. Is everyone that's on the witch hunt to destroy orb a perfect human being? No. Maybe the bigger issue here is rage itself. It goes across all competitive gaming. People yell, scream, break stuff, or whatever. Perhaps that's a bigger issue to talk about, rather than trying to destroy someone's career in a gaming community that they are very passionate about. The point is there is no context in which that word should ever be said, so it can't be taken out of context in the first place. | ||
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ShoCK77
45 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:35 Shinzon wrote: jesus christ, are all of you people angels or something? Have every single one of you not BM'd AT ALL on ladder before? You are making it seem like Orb murdered someone. He says it wasn't him. It's his fault he shared his account. Unless there is some form of proof that it WAS him, he's innocent. Ever hear of innocent until proven guilty? Oh but this is a witch hunt where Orb will be crucified by public opinion and possibly forced out of a job most of you would love to have. there are proofs that it was him (http://i.imgur.com/ezpN4.jpg just one example, just look the rest up for yourself http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/qmvdb/orb_really_loves_the_n_word_on_ladder/) if he would have just said that it was him and he was having a bad day and apologized everything would have been fine, but this excuse 'i shared my account with a friend' is just ridiculous and that is what makes people angry | ||
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Shinzon
United States41 Posts
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Ventor
United States336 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:50 Mordlikeafox wrote: have you lived as a slave for you entire life? didnt know slaves were allowed computers or starcraft 2 accounts alabama is more progressive than I'd assumed My ancestors were. You're a terrible person. | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:50 Mordlikeafox wrote: have you lived as a slave for you entire life? didnt know slaves were allowed computers or starcraft 2 accounts alabama is more progressive than I'd assumed It's pretty rare that I gawp in disbelief at the screen, but here we are | ||
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
i guess it makes other viewers excited or something | ||
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
On March 08 2012 20:44 Doomwish wrote: Taken from dictonary.com Sociopath: noun Psychiatry . a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience. "people like that I would love to just watch that guy burn, like honestly just be in the most amount of pain for hours and hours. I would revel in that." -orb You make that judgement. half the people i play on ladder sound like that. are you saying that half the sc population are sociopaths? you make that judgement | ||
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Munsy
United States67 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:50 Mordlikeafox wrote: have you lived as a slave for you entire life? didnt know slaves were allowed computers or starcraft 2 accounts alabama is more progressive than I'd assumed You're right, how could someone who has a computer and a Starcraft II account ever truly understand the pain and hurt that goes along with being called a... HEY WAIT A MINUTE | ||
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Lowell
Germany346 Posts
Yeah and my ancestors were nazis. Does that make me a fashist? You are not your ancestors stop trying to get sympathy for things that happened before you lived. Thats just stupid. Edit: Just to clarify i think what orb did and how he handled this situation is just as stupid at people saying this is about racism. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45439 Posts
His past BM and the whole racism controversy weren't part of his casts, right? Just previous games that he played while streaming (or privately, whatever). Obviously, I totally get why people are going to stop supporting orb as a person- the things that have apparently been said seem to be incredibly terrible. But relating to this actual thread (caster feedback), I think he's doing an excellent job during his commentating. (In the same way that- interestingly enough- IdrA is known for being BM in games but is actually a really good analytical caster.) I think orb's enthusiastic, has good game knowledge and analysis, and can keep up with the action very easily. OrbControl is one of my favorite caster pairs, and orb seems to be incredibly professional while he casts... so that's my particular feedback on his casting. He's one of my favorite commentators to listen to, even if he has done stupid shit in the past (arguably unforgivable to many people). As far as what he's said outside of casting is concerned... I hope he doesn't make any slip-ups during a cast. For his sake. TL;DR - Possibly scummy person. Still a really really good caster (which is what he asked about). Better not fuck up during his casts (as we've already called out some commentators for being too racist, etc.). Hoping for the best. | ||
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Seraphone
United Kingdom1219 Posts
On March 08 2012 21:50 Mordlikeafox wrote: have you lived as a slave for you entire life? didnt know slaves were allowed computers or starcraft 2 accounts alabama is more progressive than I'd assumed Wow. There are no words for some people. | ||
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