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Do not derail this thread with the BM controversy.
Use this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=318860

I will start handing out temp bans for derailing this thread starting page 29.

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MrSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden93 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 11:42:34
March 08 2012 11:41 GMT
#301
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster

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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
March 08 2012 11:42 GMT
#302
lolol... the guy was angry and said some stuff he shouldn't say.

It's not the end of the world guys, i bet people complaining here must BM the hell out of BNET and now are here like the world ended for Orb...

I saw him rage in his stream and i don't think a guy like orb would say he would smoke a bowl...
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
March 08 2012 11:43 GMT
#303
On March 08 2012 20:34 hellraiser1110 wrote:
Orb i support you, keep bm-ing, ur a solid caster. Haters gonna hate. Better to let it out than to hold it in. That's all

Wouldn't be a problem if it was just bm-ing lol. It's RACISM, do you know the difference between the two ? it changes everything.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
nappeee
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland169 Posts
March 08 2012 11:43 GMT
#304
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



The people who are attacking him are most likely against racism and his extremely unprofessional raging.

He also lied to EG and said he didn't say all those things even tho there is clear evidence he did.
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 11:46:44
March 08 2012 11:44 GMT
#305
On March 08 2012 20:30 Venomsflame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:27 Doomwish wrote:
On March 08 2012 20:24 halvorg wrote:
Frankly, I don't give a flying fuck if orb BMs on ladder.

About his casting I do not care much for it, too much yelling throughout every game even in breaks in action, makes it tiring to listen to for extended periods. It also irks me the way he criticizes play as if he is an absolute authority on the matter - I have zero problems with casters calling out mistakes, but the way he does it rubs me wrong.


This goes beyond BM. Some of the stuff he said was seriously sick, the kind of stuff a sociopath would say.


Quite an overstatement.. Calling him a sociopath is going a little far, don't you think?

Taken from dictonary.com

Sociopath:
noun Psychiatry .
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.

"people like that I would love to just watch that guy burn, like honestly just be in the most amount of pain for hours and hours. I would revel in that." -orb

You make that judgement.
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-08 11:48:40
March 08 2012 11:46 GMT
#306
On March 08 2012 20:40 Shockk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.


You did read his quotes, right? "Intellectualism" isn't exactly what comes to mind.


Not just that. I guess he dont even know what "Intellectualism" means, because otherwise he would not have used it (hint: orb is quite the opposite, and no, that does not mean dumb).

edit

I saw him rage in his stream and i don't think a guy like orb would say he would smoke a bowl...


Dont know what you try to say with that, but he already admitted that it was him (-> reddit) and not a friend.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 08 2012 11:50 GMT
#307
On March 08 2012 20:41 MrSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster



I'm absolutely serious. If this was any other master player, there wouldn't be any commotion. It's because of his fame as a caster that people are making a big deal about this.

There is no other caster who can deliver his lines like orb. He's obviously educated. A few angry comments doesn't change that.

I can't play 2 ladder games without being raged, flamed and called racist names. Isn't it ironic that the SAME COMMUNITY is crucifying orb. I'd bet my last dollar half the people attacking him do much, MUCH worse.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
March 08 2012 11:51 GMT
#308
On March 08 2012 20:41 MrSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster


Lol don't be ridicolous..

Ron Artest now Metta World Peace hit guys in front of thousands and he wasn't banned from the NBA, in fact he went from Indiana to arguably the biggest team in the NBA, to the Lakers. Same when Arenas took guns to locker room in Washington, he is now in Orlando.

So people can brawl, take guns, take doping in all sports and not get banned for life and ORB a CASTER for eSports should be banned because he said some nasty words out of anger in a ladder game?? and you can't even prove it was him, since it is online...

People are stupid or just want to bash everytime....

That's why a good thread, with good news or annoucement will always have less posts then a drama thread or if it doesn't it's because the good thread is now infested with some stupid drama...
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
March 08 2012 11:54 GMT
#309
On March 08 2012 20:51 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:41 MrSunshine wrote:
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster


Lol don't be ridicolous..

Ron Artest now Metta World Peace hit guys in front of thousands and he wasn't banned from the NBA, in fact he went from Indiana to arguably the biggest team in the NBA, to the Lakers. Same when Arenas took guns to locker room in Washington, he is now in Orlando.

So people can brawl, take guns, take doping in all sports and not get banned for life and ORB a CASTER for eSports should be banned because he said some nasty words out of anger in a ladder game?? and you can't even prove it was him, since it is online...

People are stupid or just want to bash everytime....

That's why a good thread, with good news or annoucement will always have less posts then a drama thread or if it doesn't it's because the good thread is now infested with some stupid drama...


No, he should not be banned for life. Of course not. But he should be "jugded" the same way for example Katu was. Btw, again, you dont need to prove anything, because he said that he did it.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
March 08 2012 11:54 GMT
#310
On March 08 2012 20:51 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:41 MrSunshine wrote:
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster


Lol don't be ridicolous..

Ron Artest now Metta World Peace hit guys in front of thousands and he wasn't banned from the NBA, in fact he went from Indiana to arguably the biggest team in the NBA, to the Lakers. Same when Arenas took guns to locker room in Washington, he is now in Orlando.

So people can brawl, take guns, take doping in all sports and not get banned for life and ORB a CASTER for eSports should be banned because he said some nasty words out of anger in a ladder game?? and you can't even prove it was him, since it is online...

People are stupid or just want to bash everytime....

That's why a good thread, with good news or annoucement will always have less posts then a drama thread or if it doesn't it's because the good thread is now infested with some stupid drama...

Well said, well said. :D
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
Aphix
Profile Joined February 2012
England8 Posts
March 08 2012 11:58 GMT
#311
On March 08 2012 20:50 TRaFFiC wrote:It's because of his fame as a caster that people are making a big deal about this.


No shit. He's representing the SC2 community (and EG as a whole) while he's casting tournaments, and throwing out racist comments and saying twisted crap like people have already posted in this thread isn't good publicity for anyone. Random people on the ladder doing this kind of thing have no responsibility related to SC2 and aren't representing a professional team, nor are they casting tournaments watched by thousands of people.
daber
Profile Joined March 2011
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 16:22:36
March 08 2012 11:59 GMT
#312
This game is killing my gpa
StuartLove
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany267 Posts
March 08 2012 12:00 GMT
#313
you`re good
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MrSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden93 Posts
March 08 2012 12:03 GMT
#314
On March 08 2012 20:50 TRaFFiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:41 MrSunshine wrote:
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster



I'm absolutely serious. If this was any other master player, there wouldn't be any commotion. It's because of his fame as a caster that people are making a big deal about this.

There is no other caster who can deliver his lines like orb. He's obviously educated. A few angry comments doesn't change that.

I can't play 2 ladder games without being raged, flamed and called racist names. Isn't it ironic that the SAME COMMUNITY is crucifying orb. I'd bet my last dollar half the people attacking him do much, MUCH worse.


Seeing how you're dumber than I orginally thought, I will explain why you're wrong.

First; an educated man wouldn't fall so low to call people the n-word on the ladder.

Second; seeing how Orb has done casting for NASL there is no longer any difference between his behaviour in his personal life and his professional life. He chose to become a public figure and should be judged as one.

Third; you said you can't play 2 ladder games without being flamed and therefore that would justify you acting like a douchebag to others? If someone jumps off the brooklyn bridge does that mean you have to do it aswell? You're an idiot.


On March 08 2012 20:51 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2012 20:41 MrSunshine wrote:
On March 08 2012 20:35 TRaFFiC wrote:
Orb is one of the best analytic casters in sc2, period. I don't think anything he says in his personal life should affect his professional career, especially not some random comment made online.

The people who are attacking him are probably just against intellectualism, seeing as he's one of the better composed and educated casters.

Keep it up Orb!



Are you serious?

Orb. I'm disgusted by your behaviour and the way you conduct yourself. I feel sorry for EG, seeing how I used to consider them being a highly professional entity but obviously I was proven wrong.

:edit: And also you're a terrible caster


Lol don't be ridicolous..

Ron Artest now Metta World Peace hit guys in front of thousands and he wasn't banned from the NBA, in fact he went from Indiana to arguably the biggest team in the NBA, to the Lakers. Same when Arenas took guns to locker room in Washington, he is now in Orlando.

So people can brawl, take guns, take doping in all sports and not get banned for life and ORB a CASTER for eSports should be banned because he said some nasty words out of anger in a ladder game?? and you can't even prove it was him, since it is online...

People are stupid or just want to bash everytime....

That's why a good thread, with good news or annoucement will always have less posts then a drama thread or if it doesn't it's because the good thread is now infested with some stupid drama...


I don't want Orb to represent the sc2 community with this kind of racist behaviour. That's all, lol.
RoberP
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom101 Posts
March 08 2012 12:13 GMT
#315
Lack of professionalism - never insult the viewers is the number 1 rule of any successful show surely? Making a thread asking for critique is highly useful - but one should just ignore the daft responses rather than reply to them.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
March 08 2012 12:18 GMT
#316
Well, there's the racist name-calling and then there's the lying and the covering-up. While the first one shows off some pretty hideous immaturity, the second part is when it turns really ugly. I don't see a way out of this for EG, it has to be 'bye-bye baby'!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
March 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#317
BM on ladder is childish, but probably not terribly damaging. However, the psychopathic rant on stream plus the pathetic lies about a friend using his account (Seriously? Even middle-school kids know that's a weak-ass excuse) is probably enough grounds to throw Orb out of the eSports community for at least a little while.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
March 08 2012 12:22 GMT
#318
I really hope for EG that they fire orb because otherwise their reputation will be very damaged and though some of you might hate EG it's a very bad thing for esports as it's one of the if not the most popular foreign team. Would be sad if everything they did to build up a good reputation so far would be wasted by a kid's actions.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
lamz
Profile Joined July 2011
Lithuania54 Posts
March 08 2012 12:24 GMT
#319
i find that his fake enthusiasm is really annoying, also the fact that he is almost 24 years old and still a virgin really makes me sad.

User was warned for this post
Shinzon
Profile Joined July 2010
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 09:28:51
March 08 2012 12:35 GMT
#320
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