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Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
December 02 2011 02:18 GMT
#1
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I think we can all agree that 2011 was a fantastic year for Starcraft II (yes, I know - we're not quite done yet!). I was sitting at my computer drooling over some of the fantastic play later in the year, especially from the Protosses who had been fairly quiet since Beta. Some of you may recall 2008, the 'Year of the Dragons', with a wide grin on your face. I'd like to recap the last two months for some of my favorite players and share some of the things that fascinate me about Starcraft.


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(P)Liquid'HerO
Song Hyeon Deok

Birth Date: 1990-06-06 Age: 21 (Korean: 22)
AKAs: Liquid`HerO, LiquidHerO, oGsHerO, HerO[Shield], Liquid'HerO
Team: Team Liquid

All: 47-32 (59%)
vT: 10-13 (43%)
vZ: 22-13 (63%)
vP: 15-6 (71%)

1st DreamHack Winter 2011 HerO 4 : 3 PuMa
3rd Dreamhack Valencia Invitational HerO 0 : 2 ThorZaIN
2nd Gview Thailand Starcraft II Invitational HerO 2 : 4 MarineKing

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(P)NaNiwa
Johan Lucchesi

Birth Date: 1990-03-14 Age: 21 (Korean: 22)
AKAs: Empire.Nani, sonnenkind, Skoth, kurorolucifer, srsRAZER.nAni
Team: Complexity Gaming

All: 23-20 (53%)
vT: 5-5 (50%)
vZ: 16-12 (57%)
vP: 2-3 (40%)

2nd MLG Providence 2011 NaNiwa 1 : 4 Leenock
1st 2011 MLG Global Invitational NaNiwa 2 : 1 NesTea
1st 2011 MLG European Invitational NaNiwa 4 : 1 White-Ra
4th Blizzcon 2011 NaNiwa 1 : 2 Sen


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(P)HuK
Chris Loranger

Birth Date: 1989-05-10 Age: 22 (Korean: 23)
AKAs: EG.HuK, TLAF-Liquid`HuK, Mill.HuK, VT|HuK
Team: Evil Geniuses

All: 42-34 (55%)
vT: 17-14 (55%)
vZ: 10-7 (59%)
vP: 15-13 (54%)

1st 2011 MLG Orlando 4 : 1 MC
Ro8 2011 GSL August - Code S 0 : 3 Mvp

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(P)SaSe
Kim Hammar

Birth Date: 1987-07-12 Age: 24 (Korean: 25)
AKAs: MYM.SaSe, ISEESEE, Deadleaves, 77mylady
Team: Quantic Gaming

All: 29-17 (63%)
vT: 13-6 (68%)
vZ: 3-5 (38%)
vP: 13-6 (68%)

3rd IGN ProLeague Season 4 UK Qualifiers SaSe 1 : 2 TAiLS
3rd MLG European Invitational 2011 SaSe 2 : 4 NaNiwa

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(P)MC
Jang Min Chul

Birth Date: 1991-06-17 Age: 20 (Korean: 21)
AKAs: La[ScM], La[gm], IrOn[KaL], AAHero_gm, JangMinChul, oGsMC
Team: Old Generations

All: 29-19 (60%)
vT: 12-6 (67%)
vZ: 9-5 (64%)
vP: 8-8 (50%)

2nd 2011 MLG Orlando MC 1 : 4 HuK

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[Maps]
9/1/11 - Present

Antiga Shipyard
Record: TvZ: 62-67 (48%) | ZvP: 67-47 (59%) | PvT: 43-50 (46%)
Mirrors: 54 TvT | 57 ZvZ | 46 PvP

Crevasse
Record: TvZ: 21-10 (68%) | ZvP: 19-16 (54%) | PvT: 12-24 (33%)
Mirrors: 15 TvT | 6 ZvZ | 10 PvP

Crossfire SE
Record: TvZ: 21-15 (58%) | ZvP: 19-7 (73%) | PvT: 15-14 (52%)
Mirrors: 21 TvT | 13 ZvZ | 9 PvP

Daybreak
Record: TvZ: 29-34 (46%) | ZvP: 25-25 (50%) | PvT: 29-25 (54%)
Mirrors: 30 TvT | 21 ZvZ | 29 PvP

Dual Sight
Record: TvZ: 53-45 (54%) | ZvP: 45-29 (61%) | PvT: 38-36 (51%)
Mirrors: 49 TvT | 42 ZvZ | 30 PvP

Metalopolis
Record: TvZ: 60-52 (54%) | ZvP: 59-56 (51%) | PvT: 33-41 (44%)
Mirrors: 41 TvT | 75 ZvZ | 30 PvP

Shakuras Plateau
Record: TvZ: 79-64 (55%) | ZvP: 93-61 (60%) | PvT: 63-80 (44%)
Mirrors: 52 TvT | 75 ZvZ | 65 PvP

Tal'Darim Altar
Record: TvZ: 80-83 (49%) | ZvP: 94-81 (54%) | PvT: 84-64 (57%)
Mirrors: 73 TvT | 39 ZvZ | 54 PvP

Terminus SE
Record: TvZ: 34-31 (52%) | ZvP: 44-35 (56%) | PvT: 44-36 (55%)
Mirrors: 20 TvT | 32 ZvZ | 31 PvP

Overall
Record: TvZ: 439-401 (52%) | ZvP: 465-357 (57%) | PvT: 361-370 (49%)
Mirrors: 355 TvT | 360 ZvZ | 304 PvP

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ELO Peaks

ID Team ELO Peak vsT Peak vsZ Peak vsP Peak
MC oGs 2300 2434 2254 2302 2218 2245 2176 2255
HuK EG. 2208 2406 2168 2299 2094 2180 2182 2275
NaNiwa coL. 2269 2391 2203 2315 2090 2212 2209 2232
SaSe QxG 2268 2369 2259 2284 2101 2115 2169 2256
HerO Liquid` 2320 2325 2188 2188 2189 2220 2199 2214

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I've really enjoyed the year and I hope this post helps to excite someone else in the same way I'm excited for what comes next... Needless to say, if you've made it this far you've probably noticed that I only chose five players.. does anyone have thoughts on who should be the sixth (aka: (P)free )? I can't wait to see if the foreigners can continue to play so well or if they'll slowly lose out to the long term training of the Koreans like Grrrr... and Elky and the other early champions.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 02:21:40
December 02 2011 02:21 GMT
#2
This is going to end up like the bonjwa-discussions.

Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Free and Kal are all shaking their heads at this thread. Nice write-up, though.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 02:37:59
December 02 2011 02:22 GMT
#3
On December 02 2011 11:21 Fionn wrote:
This is going to end up like the bonjwa-discussions.

Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Free and Kal are all shaking their heads at this thread. Nice write-up, though.

nah, bisu has to respect minibisu, other than that you're 100% right though

edit: omg getting dangerously close to 2k pts...MUST NOT POST TIL EVERYTHING IS PREPARED T_____T
AegonC
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States260 Posts
December 02 2011 02:23 GMT
#4
I think that humans can't be considered dragon in 2012. Theere a constutancy in think the Chinese alphabet for dragons? Correct mne If im wrong but the draagons can't be germinated, but yes good analogy i think they comeback this season.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 02 2011 02:24 GMT
#5
On December 02 2011 11:21 Fionn wrote:
This is going to end up like the bonjwa-discussions.

Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Free and Kal are all shaking their heads at this thread. Nice write-up, though.


Oh God, couldn't agree more. People keep jumping the gun these days seriously. X-X
Remb
Profile Joined August 2011
United States190 Posts
December 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#6
I think FXO Oz deserves mention more so than Sase. No offense to Sase of course. Other Protoss who I believe would be worthy are NSHoseo Sage and Slayers Puzzle, we just have to wait and see if they deliver results.
A virtuous act is performed habitually, and not once from incentive alone.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 02:54:13
December 02 2011 02:27 GMT
#7
I mean, at the time of the dragons, all six of them were in the top seven or ten best players in the world. Hero still needs to make Code S for the first time; Naniwa is in Code S, but was given three Code A seeds and got 0-2'ed in every single tournament; Huk is fighting to get back into Code S and has never made a semifinal; MC dropped all the way down to Code B, had to go through MLG to get a Code S seed, and hasn't made a semifinal in probably half a year; Sase? Very good player...but what?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
telamascope
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
December 02 2011 02:29 GMT
#8
So Bisu and Hero were both in the [Shield] clan?
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
December 02 2011 02:29 GMT
#9
On December 02 2011 11:21 Fionn wrote:
This is going to end up like the bonjwa-discussions.

Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Free and Kal are all shaking their heads at this thread. Nice write-up, though.


You forgot Best .

Movie and Stats to replace Free and Kal soon though.
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
December 02 2011 02:31 GMT
#10
second coming of the dragoons T_T
Inno pls...
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
December 02 2011 02:31 GMT
#11
Tell me when they are getting solid 60% or above win ratio for a period of time. Then I'll consider them as "dragons"
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 02 2011 02:32 GMT
#12
On December 02 2011 11:29 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 11:21 Fionn wrote:
This is going to end up like the bonjwa-discussions.

Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Free and Kal are all shaking their heads at this thread. Nice write-up, though.


You forgot Best .

Movie and Stats to replace Free and Kal soon though.


I always forget Best for some reason.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 02 2011 02:33 GMT
#13
This thread can only end badly.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 02 2011 02:34 GMT
#14
Make this thread if in 5 years they are doing just as good... Cause Being really good now doesn't mean that much Long Term think about Boxer he was amazing and revolutionized the game. Though he probably couldn't beat Flash/Jaedong/Bisu in a bo5/7
I am Godzilla You are Japan
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
December 02 2011 02:36 GMT
#15
I'm sorry but no. This isn't even close to what a real "Year of the Dragons". When the top 5 out of 10 players in the world are all Protoss we can revisit this thread IMO.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 02 2011 02:40 GMT
#16
I'm just wondering, is anyone from the current sc2 stars born in November ?
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
nglt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States187 Posts
December 02 2011 02:41 GMT
#17
you guys are trying way too hard with all these attempts to legitimize sc2 with the BW comparisons. the game is just over a year old give it time...embarrassing.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
December 02 2011 02:42 GMT
#18
Its a hype post let the op have fun though I feel the dragons comment is a little too much

Though really the OP who did the BW year of the dragons post is making a similar thing for SC2 so I think we can all take this with a grain of salt but giggle and be happy if you play protoss
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
December 02 2011 02:42 GMT
#19
Haha, this is hilarious....

Anyways, at the time of the 6 Dragons, they were absolutely dominant (and hence the term was coined). I don't see any of the protosses you mentioned being especially dominant.
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
December 02 2011 02:44 GMT
#20
On December 02 2011 11:21 Fionn wrote:
This is going to end up like the bonjwa-discussions.

Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Free and Kal are all shaking their heads at this thread. Nice write-up, though.


Yea none of those players OP listed are better than any of the players you listed... sadly.

Though I want HerO or Huk to do good in 2012.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
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