On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote: Some how artosis is involved here....
Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote: Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.
... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.
No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.
Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.
Killer is way better than tester and fruit dealer.
Yes, I edited. Killer is slightly above tester and fruit, but still not a top korean. For the longest time my bottom 5 gsl players were Kyrix, Tester, Violet, Ensnare and Killer and killer lasted the longest out of that list.
Have you watched gsl recently? His PvT is quite good (even pre patch). He can easily be in code s next season too.
To be fair, I will say yes Killer played well this gsl. He's just never stood out to me in all the previous gsls. Like tastosis would hype him up every gsl because he's their friend, but his play just never looked that good. We'll see how he does from now on because this gsl is the first time I can say that he looked better than a low tier player. Like someone said earlier, he might be mid tier now.
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote: Some how artosis is involved here....
Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote: Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.
... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.
No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Well slightly above them. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.
Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.
Did you see his pvts this gsl? pretty good man
He beat Polt in PvT. Very few Protoss beat Polt in that matchup as he has always been arguably one of the best Terrans at TvP. That says something. SangHo is the Clide of Protoss, he's not the best player but he is consistently good.
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote: Some how artosis is involved here....
Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote: Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.
... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.
No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Well slightly above them. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.
Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.
Not as weird as people are making it out to be. their contracts prob expire at the end of the year and the team can't afford to pay them/the management doesn't want to pay/support them with a new contract. Expect a lot of drama-less team stir ups you hear about in the coming month
On November 28 2011 13:05 Alejandrisha wrote: Not as weird as people are making it out to be. their contracts prob expire at the end of the year and the team can't afford to pay them/the management doesn't want to pay/support them with a new contract. Expect a lot of drama-less team stir ups you hear about in the coming month
I don't think the contracts (if they did have any) were for fixed periods to be honest.
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote: Some how artosis is involved here....
Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!
On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote: Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.
... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.
No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Well slightly above them. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.
Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.
Did you see his pvts this gsl? pretty good man
Yeah, but his PvZ and PvP is subpar.
I don't think we've seen enough of either match up recently to say that.
I don't really understand how losing 3 of your top 5 players is "rebuilding". I don't understand the move personally. Clide/Killer/JYP asking for a bigger salary or something? That is the only reason that would have this make sense
I have no idea how this is supposed to make any sense or how it will help the team rebuild. I want to trust in Coach Lee but with everything that has happened with TSL since summer that's hard to do sometimes.
I'm so sad. This hurts more than Fruitdealer / Tester leaving.
SangHo probably to a foreign team. I can't imagine seeing that guy teamless for too long. JYP is probably going to another Korean team, he's not popular enough in the foreign scene yet.
If Liquid wasn't so absolutely respectable, I would be clamoring for Liquid'Polt right now. :D
You guys realize TSL hasn't died. It's been reborn. It sounds weird but Coach Lee wanted this to happen. As in, Clide didn't just stand up and leave. He wants to start over and build a good team basically of champions which is why he kept people like Polt. and Hyun was a good friend of Coach Lee from MBCgameHERO.
Everyone here who is upset about them losing some random hacks, they've picked up HyuN. That's huge, he was a decent BW player, MUCH better than Fruitdealer, SangHo or Tester ever were.
He far outstripped even MVP, now the best sc2 player in the world.
TSL fans should be hugely excited about this acquisition.