• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:14
CET 06:14
KST 14:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion5Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1227 users

Team SCV Life big changes - Page 15

Forum Index > SC2 General
563 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 29 Next All
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 04:04:45
November 28 2011 04:03 GMT
#281
On November 28 2011 12:58 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 12:55 Canucklehead wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:53 jmbthirteen wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:49 Canucklehead wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote:
Some how artosis is involved here....

Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote:
Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.


... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.


No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.

Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.

Killer is way better than tester and fruit dealer.


Yes, I edited. Killer is slightly above tester and fruit, but still not a top korean. For the longest time my bottom 5 gsl players were Kyrix, Tester, Violet, Ensnare and Killer and killer lasted the longest out of that list.

Have you watched gsl recently? His PvT is quite good (even pre patch). He can easily be in code s next season too.


To be fair, I will say yes Killer played well this gsl. He's just never stood out to me in all the previous gsls. Like tastosis would hype him up every gsl because he's their friend, but his play just never looked that good. We'll see how he does from now on because this gsl is the first time I can say that he looked better than a low tier player. Like someone said earlier, he might be mid tier now.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
November 28 2011 04:03 GMT
#282
On November 28 2011 12:58 Oreo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 12:49 Canucklehead wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote:
Some how artosis is involved here....

Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote:
Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.


... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.


No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Well slightly above them. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.

Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.


Did you see his pvts this gsl? pretty good man
He beat Polt in PvT. Very few Protoss beat Polt in that matchup as he has always been arguably one of the best Terrans at TvP. That says something. SangHo is the Clide of Protoss, he's not the best player but he is consistently good.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 28 2011 04:04 GMT
#283
On November 28 2011 12:58 Oreo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 12:49 Canucklehead wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote:
Some how artosis is involved here....

Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote:
Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.


... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.


No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Well slightly above them. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.

Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.


Did you see his pvts this gsl? pretty good man

Yeah, but his PvZ and PvP is subpar.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
November 28 2011 04:05 GMT
#284
Not as weird as people are making it out to be. their contracts prob expire at the end of the year and the team can't afford to pay them/the management doesn't want to pay/support them with a new contract. Expect a lot of drama-less team stir ups you hear about in the coming month
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
November 28 2011 04:07 GMT
#285
Wow overall TSL has lost - Fruitdealer, Trickster, Puma, Clide, Killer, JYP
;(
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 04:09:17
November 28 2011 04:08 GMT
#286
On November 28 2011 13:05 Alejandrisha wrote:
Not as weird as people are making it out to be. their contracts prob expire at the end of the year and the team can't afford to pay them/the management doesn't want to pay/support them with a new contract. Expect a lot of drama-less team stir ups you hear about in the coming month

I don't think the contracts (if they did have any) were for fixed periods to be honest.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
November 28 2011 04:09 GMT
#287
On November 28 2011 13:07 Mutality wrote:
Wow overall TSL has lost - Fruitdealer, Trickster, Puma, Clide, Killer, JYP
;(


Shedding FruitDealer and Tester is addition by subtraction as far as im concerned
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
November 28 2011 04:09 GMT
#288
On November 28 2011 13:04 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2011 12:58 Oreo7 wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:49 Canucklehead wrote:
On November 28 2011 12:42 GMonster wrote:
Some how artosis is involved here....

Stay with me on this. EG has a partnership with SlayerS. IncontroL is on team EG. iNcontroL will be staying wtih artosis while he is in Korea. Clide joins SlayerS... COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT!

On November 28 2011 12:42 Canucklehead wrote:
Clide and JYP are big losses, but I don't think killer is that good, so he's not a huge loss. Excited to see how hyun does.


... you dont think the only protoss to make it to the round of 16 last season is... good... ok.


No I don't think killer is that good and I put him in the tester/fruit class. Well slightly above them. Killer was just one of those people like ensnare that managed to hang on to code s for a long time. His play just never impressed me and I always saw him as a lower end toss player.

Killer also never did well in foreign tourneys he went to. A high level korean should be able to wreck foreign tourneys or at least get far, but killer flamed out early in all his foreign tourneys.


Did you see his pvts this gsl? pretty good man

Yeah, but his PvZ and PvP is subpar.

I don't think we've seen enough of either match up recently to say that.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 28 2011 04:09 GMT
#289
oO i don't remember watching hyun at all o:

poor SCV Life, they've had a hard year.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
November 28 2011 04:11 GMT
#290
I don't really understand how losing 3 of your top 5 players is "rebuilding". I don't understand the move personally. Clide/Killer/JYP asking for a bigger salary or something? That is the only reason that would have this make sense
chesshaha
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1117 Posts
November 28 2011 04:12 GMT
#291
Wow... did not see this coming. Coach Lee knows what he's doing but... this move confuses me on paper, there must be some internal conflicts...

I think Killer and JYP gonna join foreigner teams.
"Hopefully you're not the real TLO so it's not casted" - SpecialK
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
November 28 2011 04:16 GMT
#292
I have no idea how this is supposed to make any sense or how it will help the team rebuild. I want to trust in Coach Lee but with everything that has happened with TSL since summer that's hard to do sometimes.

I'm so sad. This hurts more than Fruitdealer / Tester leaving.
Team SCV Life #1
Mzimzim
Profile Joined June 2011
United States221 Posts
November 28 2011 04:17 GMT
#293
TSL still has Polt. That's all that really matters.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 28 2011 04:19 GMT
#294
The hell... wow.

Shit.

IM could use SangHo or JYP I guess.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
November 28 2011 04:22 GMT
#295
Killer is going to join oGs for sure...
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
November 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#296
SangHo probably to a foreign team. I can't imagine seeing that guy teamless for too long. JYP is probably going to another Korean team, he's not popular enough in the foreign scene yet.

If Liquid wasn't so absolutely respectable, I would be clamoring for Liquid'Polt right now. :D
aethereality
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada62 Posts
November 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#297
Man, I never followed the BW scene or anything, but from what I've seen, Coach Lee is a class act.

He seems like quite the consummate professional, if Hyungjoon Becomes a Progamer is any indication.
DeepBlu2
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States975 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 04:25:10
November 28 2011 04:24 GMT
#298
You guys realize TSL hasn't died. It's been reborn. It sounds weird but Coach Lee wanted this to happen. As in, Clide didn't just stand up and leave. He wants to start over and build a good team basically of champions which is why he kept people like Polt. and Hyun was a good friend of Coach Lee from MBCgameHERO.
u gotta sk8
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4386 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 04:26:49
November 28 2011 04:25 GMT
#299
Everyone here who is upset about them losing some random hacks, they've picked up (Z)HyuN. That's huge, he was a decent BW player, MUCH better than Fruitdealer, SangHo or Tester ever were.

He far outstripped even MVP, now the best sc2 player in the world.

TSL fans should be hugely excited about this acquisition.
Sucker for nostalgia
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
November 28 2011 04:25 GMT
#300
Good pick up sad to hear about killer and JYP
Follow me on Instagram @Chef_Betto
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
All-Star Invitational
03:00
Day 2
herO vs SolarLIVE!
Clem vs Reynor
Rogue vs Oliveira
WardiTV1065
PiGStarcraft567
EnkiAlexander 99
3DClanTV 41
IntoTheiNu 13
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 2
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft567
WinterStarcraft540
RuFF_SC2 143
IndyStarCraft 86
BRAT_OK 78
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19306
Rain 936
EffOrt 151
Shuttle 99
Noble 33
Models 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Icarus 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever212
febbydoto47
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 733
C9.Mang0501
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King39
Other Games
summit1g7434
KnowMe665
minikerr23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1852
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 71
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 63
• Diggity4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt463
Other Games
• Scarra1213
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 46m
OSC
6h 46m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
14h 46m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
14h 46m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
The PondCast
3 days
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.