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meowmeow-
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany291 Posts
November 18 2011 00:57 GMT
#361
Bring him up on the horns.

Three slashes with a single headed whip should suffice.
Life is short, waste it wisely.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
November 18 2011 00:59 GMT
#362
throwing a game in a TOURNAMENT is stupid. More practice? ROFL, pros do this all day in their PRACTICE HOUSE

for the consequence, I can't say what is appropriate, but it seems some people are defending his actions when they are clearly wrong
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Boozerr
Profile Joined October 2010
United States28 Posts
November 18 2011 01:05 GMT
#363
Speaking as captain hindsight, I think ESV should have just given the Code A spot to the highest person that is not already in the GSL, similar to how MLG does it. None of this would have ended up happening.

As for Coca, I think he decided to throw the game because he would feel bad if Byun didn't get the Code A spot and the spot was wasted.
HydroOwl
Profile Joined November 2010
United States57 Posts
November 18 2011 01:19 GMT
#364
On November 17 2011 10:05 ohampatu wrote:
I wish people stop calling this match fixing, its not. This is the same thing that happened to WhiteRa, in which his opponent was praised a Hero and even interviewed. Matchfixing would imply that he through the match for some kinda gain. There was no gain.


It clearly WAS match fixing though. The outcome of the game was not determined by the actual play. Coca had the game won as far as I know, and left as a favor. It is literally the definition of match fixing. It doesn't matter what gain was or was not involved. He definitely deserves some sort of punishment. Letting this go unpunished opens the door for it to happen more in the future, and we can't be sitting here questioning the integrity of every game we watch because that would simply ruin Starcraft as a spectator sport.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 02:23:12
November 18 2011 01:28 GMT
#365
Again, there was actually no Code A at stake (not sure how long people will keep saying this.
Check Mr. Chae's statement http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285580&currentpage=4#76

On November 18 2011 10:19 HydroOwl wrote:
Coca had the game won as far as I know, and left as a favor.
He won the game clearly with no simulation, and very clearly left, in order to get one more game of ZvT practice for his all-Terran GSL group, in the absence of his Terran teammates.

And if the purpose of this was "match-fixing" - they could have not sent any replays, and the result was going to be the same.
On November 18 2011 09:59 slappy wrote:
throwing a game in a TOURNAMENT is stupid. More practice? ROFL, pros do this all day in their PRACTICE HOUSE
His Terran teammates were all busy with another event, he says that in chat too.

What was wrong here was disrespecting the event and treating it like a practice session. That's why the punishment from the event is justified - ban until January from the Weekly. All the other reactions were made in a rush, before proper investigation.
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Yamoth
Profile Joined February 2009
United States315 Posts
November 18 2011 02:11 GMT
#366
On November 18 2011 10:05 Boozerr wrote:
Speaking as captain hindsight, I think ESV should have just given the Code A spot to the highest person that is not already in the GSL, similar to how MLG does it. None of this would have ended up happening.

As for Coca, I think he decided to throw the game because he would feel bad if Byun didn't get the Code A spot and the spot was wasted.


Pretty sure he throw the game because Byun asked him to throw that one game so Byun would have a second shot at beating Coca. Other than it being totally unprofessional and being thoughtless, everything else was done in the spirit of the moment and out of the fun they are having while playing with each other. As many people have said before, the biggest offense that they made during that game was being disrespectful of the tournament. All this talk about match fixing is just totally ridiculous.
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