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Hundisilm
Estonia99 Posts
Strictly speaking you would want smoothness (a drop from 120 fps to 60 fps can be very terrible if the framerate isn't smooth). PS. I've found V-sync to be quite bad thing to have. I wouldn't suggest having it on unless shearing starts directly bothering you. | ||
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ZiegFeld
351 Posts
On November 08 2011 01:15 Souljah wrote: Aye, my m17x has a 120hz screen. Smooth as fuck. dumb. obviously you've never seen the game at 120hz. | ||
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pecore
Germany62 Posts
If you are below vertical sync with 40 or even 20 FPS you should definitely use lower settings or upgrade your hardware for optimal experience. On November 08 2011 00:59 -Archangel- wrote: Trust me you cannot feel the difference and the eye cannot catch more then 36fps (or something around that). Maybe you are talking about a refresh rate of your monitor. What you might be feeling is drops in fps on your computer (some computers can have big average fps but can have drops). Try to turn on vsync to avoid those. With turning on vertical sync you will not eliminate drops if you can not render the frames per second needed. This is purely a framerate limiter, not a magical framerate accelerator. | ||
Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On November 08 2011 03:21 ZiegFeld wrote: Aye, my m17x has a 120hz screen. Smooth as fuck. I bought an m17x like 2.5 years ago... they only had "i7" cpu's avalible which were 1.6 and 2ghz, it chokes out and cant maintain 60fps in 1v1s on lowest settings with sli gtx260m's. They even removed the sli option because of heat issues that cause the laptop to go from cold boot to thermal shutdown in 2-3 minutes or so unless you explicitly limit the framerate in every single game you play | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
a year ago, when sc2 was released, many computers overheated and blizzard responded to the issue with putting this in your variables.txt frameratecapglue=30 frameratecap=60 is that still needed or have blizzard patched and fixed the overheating bug? | ||
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Mendelfist
Sweden356 Posts
On November 08 2011 03:46 BlackGosu wrote: hey i got an important question, hope someone can answer. a year ago, when sc2 was released, many computers overheated and blizzard responded to the issue with putting this in your variables.txt frameratecapglue=30 frameratecap=60 is that still needed or have blizzard patched and fixed the overheating bug? This is just a stupid myth. There is no bug. Games are usually not framerate capped and high framerates do not kill your computer. When I start Quake 3 I get 1800 fps in the menus, and I'm not kidding. The fix is useful for computers with bad cooling. It's not a bugfix, and none is needed. | ||
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On November 08 2011 03:53 Mendelfist wrote: This is just a stupid myth. There is no bug. Games are usually not framerate capped and high framerates do not kill your computer. When I start Quake 3 I get 1800 fps in the menus, and I'm not kidding. The fix is useful for computers with bad cooling. It's not a bugfix, and none is needed. cool can anyone else confirm before i take out the txt? dont want to try to fry my gpu that fast T_T | ||
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Litti
Germany16 Posts
Thx guys. | ||
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Lothargr
Greece32 Posts
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driftme
United States360 Posts
On November 08 2011 04:06 BlackGosu wrote: cool can anyone else confirm before i take out the txt? dont want to try to fry my gpu that fast T_T There is no such bug, and if there are problems, theyre on an individual basis, probably due to bad cooling, or clumped dust in the computer. I've never put that in my variables and I've played religiously since beta. The temperature on my gpu never really goes up while playing starcraft, less than any other game. And I play on the absolute highest possible settings. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
On November 08 2011 03:37 pecore wrote: Always use vertical sync! If you don't it will cause artifacts called tearing and you can not see more anyway because of the refresh rate of your monitor. Big numbers don't mean anything, use vertical sync. If you are below vertical sync with 40 or even 20 FPS you should definitely use lower settings or upgrade your hardware for optimal experience. With turning on vertical sync you will not eliminate drops if you can not render the frames per second needed. This is purely a framerate limiter, not a magical framerate accelerator. no, vsync causes input delay, the only thing it solves is screen tearing | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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pecore
Germany62 Posts
On November 08 2011 05:07 r_con wrote: no, vsync causes input delay, the only thing it solves is screen tearing It might cause input delay, but that depends completely on the implementation... meaning it doesn't have to cause input delay. I actually don't know if it causes input delay with StarCraft 2 to be honest so.. you might be right. That doesn't mean you shouldn't activate vsync though. I think the minimal amount of input delay vsync might cause is tiny (in fact so tiny it shouldn't even matter when humans are playing the game) in comparison to artifacts while panning the camera (especially), but that's just for me personally. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
www.100fps.com Good reading. Visual Sync is desired once you can render something stable above 60. But watch out because if the performance isnt WELL above 60 frames you will get problems. Don't run SC2 with vsync on. Even powerful computers dip below 60 very often, even in 1v1. On November 08 2011 04:09 Litti wrote: OK well seems like nobody knows exactly why there are feelable differences between 80 fps and 120 fps but I can live with that. Thx guys. It is not a simple answer as the human eye is not very direct. Please read linked source to its fullest. including... http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
On November 08 2011 05:37 pecore wrote: It might cause input delay, but that depends completely on the implementation... meaning it doesn't have to cause input delay. I actually don't know if it causes input delay with StarCraft 2 to be honest so.. you might be right. That doesn't mean you shouldn't activate vsync though. I think the minimal amount of input delay vsync might cause is tiny (in fact so tiny it shouldn't even matter when humans are playing the game) in comparison to artifacts while panning the camera (especially), but that's just for me personally. vsync is a buffer, this buffer will cause input lag, there is nothing that you can do about it. And yes, it is noticable, but you have to be really acute to the change to notice it.(QuakeWorld with vsync feels unplayable) | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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pecore
Germany62 Posts
On November 08 2011 05:46 r_con wrote: vsync is a buffer, this buffer will cause input lag, there is nothing that you can do about it. And yes, it is noticable, but you have to be really acute to the change to notice it.(QuakeWorld with vsync feels unplayable) No vsync is not a buffer... it is a synchronization pulse in the video raster and marks a new frame. Vertical sync with a framerate of 60 is about 16ms, so that is the maximum amount of input delay this could possibly cause. Vsync has nothing to do with professional gaming. This is the problem I have with game companies even putting that in as an option. There is no reason to ever not activate vertical synchronization. Writing into a buffer while it is being scanned out is simply bad. | ||
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Kr1pos
Norway67 Posts
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