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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:13 zerker2strong wrote: well i think stephano is overrated he wins everything but he is really overrated yea that is good logic Idra said he is overrated in the sense that he is winning mostly because of his style and not exactly because he is that good overall. | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
Thanks for the interview, it was very entertaining. I liked the ending haha. | ||
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Demonhunter04
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JJH777
United States4418 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:08 TYJ.Aoy wrote: Except he is just wrong, pure mech vs zerg dies to a mass muta switch(by a decent zerg) every time, every single time, thors are awful vs mutas, which limits terran's builds pretty much. Yep I'm sure you know more than IdrA. Rofl at Thors being terrible against mutas though. They are always cost effective against mutas even when magic boxed. | ||
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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SolidMoose
United States1240 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote: Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated". Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly  .As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. | ||
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Herr Wilhelm
Chile170 Posts
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:28 JJH777 wrote: Yep I'm sure you know more than IdrA. Rofl at Thors being terrible against mutas though. They are always cost effective against mutas even when magic boxed. 4 magic boxed mutas kill a thor, son, first get out of bronze before trying to correct people, I've tried mech and watched people try mech and fail countless and countless times for the same reason I just gave you( games where the hellions openings kill 50 drones not withstanding). User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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CherubDown
United States171 Posts
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WaSa
Sweden749 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote: Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly .As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
♥ thanks for interview, really well done | ||
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Conquerer67
United States605 Posts
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
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LeopoldStotch
United States158 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
Probably first interview where I've gone: "Shut up interviewed person, let the interviewer talk!" Sry idrA | ||
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Zyrre
Sweden291 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:33 TYJ.Aoy wrote: 4 magic boxed mutas kill a thor, son, first get out of bronze before trying to correct people, I've tried mech and watched people try mech and fail countless and countless times for the same reason I just gave you( games where the hellions openings kill 50 drones not withstanding). 1 thor is roughly half the cost of 4 mutas, so I'm not sure how that example should prove thors not being cost effective. | ||
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teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
On November 04 2011 07:33 TYJ.Aoy wrote: 4 magic boxed mutas kill a thor, son, first get out of bronze before trying to correct people, I've tried mech and watched people try mech and fail countless and countless times for the same reason I just gave you( games where the hellions openings kill 50 drones not withstanding). lol... time to go back to grade school, son. 1 Thor = 300/200 4 mutas = 400/400 The guy says thors are cost effective against mutas even when magic boxed, which is true. The real reason people don't go pure mech vs Zerg is that they don't get have any map presence until a huge ball gets formed. With no pressure on the Zerg, he's free to mass expand vs the meching Terran and eventually overpower him with raw numbers. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
As for Nerchio, he has failed in every LAN he has been to (comparatively speaking). He was at ESWC and IEM ya know, and he had no notable placings in either. Calling him the 2nd best foreigner Zerg (yes, people think this) is hugely disrespectful to a lot of Zergs who have won more. I can fully understand his hatred for the game after gsl Jan. Imagine TvZ today, and how it would look like with Delta Quadrant, Steppes of War, Jungle Basin, Close positions, Xelnaga (your best map!), blistering (imagine ghost mech here, disgusting) and horizontal old shakuras. Terran literally would not lose to Zerg on the old ladder maps and professionals had to put up with it for 4 gsls. It baffles me how bad the Terrans must have played to actually lose on these maps. oGsEnsnare could beat Nestea on Delta Quadrant 10 games out of 10. | ||
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