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On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly  . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism.
lol stephano is def over rated atleast on TL he is. People call him a Zerg messiah. I've heard people say hes best zerg period. Most good players tend to be overrated by at least somebody
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i agree with idra about Stephano and Nerchio.
i feel like what sets Stephano apart from everyone else is his style. In my opinion his macro and mechanics are not his strong points but his style that wins him games. especially since other foreigners and Koreans are not use to it yet.
about the Nerchio thing. i seem to like Nerchio a lot but he can win every single online cup there is but until he can show he can compete in Lans....yea
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Who is this gorgeous interviewer? Seriously I am simply blown away she is so beautiful :O
also IdrA is my hero~
also sexiest accent ever. (not idra)
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On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism.
I didn't say that the entire community called stephano the new Nestea... But his fanboys are just as zaelous as IdrA's and they are very very vocal. And Stephano doesn't have nearly as many haters as IdrA, some of them are just the counterpart of his fanboys, the others are just IdrA's fanboys who don't take kindly the fact that Stephano gets so much hype (and results) .
On a all, i think the community is overrating both stephano and IdrA but i sense it more for the former since IdrA gets shit on on a daily basis by a large portion of both TL and reddit.
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On November 04 2011 08:10 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism. lol stephano is def over rated atleast on TL he is. People call him a Zerg messiah. I've heard people say hes best zerg period. Most good players tend to be overrated by at least somebody
I've heard some people say Idra is the best zerg period (allot more than Stephano I might add  ). So idra is overrated at least on TL? >.>
Again, most people "overrating" stephano are fanboys and not "TL" which is basically saying, the majority of people hanging here. And you really think the majority of TLers hail stepahno as the best zerg ever? I can imagine the fanboys/haters think so but not the average guy hanging here.
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No one would ever say Nestea isn't the best Zerg i m o
MVP only beat him because he had Nestea as a practice partner (;
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Living up to the name.. damn you're hot.. great interviews btw ^^
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On November 04 2011 08:23 Diavlo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism. I didn't say that the entire community called stephano the new Nestea... But his fanboys are just as zaelous as IdrA's and they are very very vocal. And Stephano doesn't have nearly as many haters as IdrA, some of them are just the counterpart of his fanboy, the other are just IdrA's fanboy who don't take kindly the fact that Stephano gets so much hype (and results) . On a all, i think the community is overrating both stephano and IdrA but i sense it a little more for the former since IdrA gets shit on on a daily basis by a large portion of both TL and reddit.
You said: "Stephano is overrated by the community". Maybe next time make it clear what you actually means
And Stephano has more haters than idra, not in # but relative to his fanbase. Most idra haters aren't really haters but anti-fans tired of his horde of followers & balance QQers. Stepahno on the other hand get blatant hate comments like he cheated, he was lucky, his opponent didn't take it seriously and all kind of stuff to downgrade his wins.
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Thanks for the interview
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On November 04 2011 08:28 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:10 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism. lol stephano is def over rated atleast on TL he is. People call him a Zerg messiah. I've heard people say hes best zerg period. Most good players tend to be overrated by at least somebody I've heard some people say Idra is the best zerg period (allot more than Stephano I might add ). So idra is overrated at least on TL? >.> Again, most people "overrating" stephano are fanboys and not "TL" which is basically saying, the majority of people hanging here. And you really think the majority of TLers hail stepahno as the best zerg ever? I can imagine the fanboys/haters think so but not the average guy hanging here.
I mean I do think idra is overrated on tl too haha. I suppose it is mostly the fan boys/haters comments that I read though.(I'm actually a fan boy of both now)I guess we will just have to wait to stephano goes to korea and idra goes back to see where they really are.
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About the overated players question, all you need to understand is that Idra is a competitor and he gave the name of 3 player he consider as rival, that's all.
Stephano is currently rated above Idra, so it's perfectly normal that Idra says Stephano is overated. He is not being BM or meaning that Stephano is bad, but as a competitor you have to believe the other guy is not better than you.
Same with Nerchio and Kiwikaki, you can tell their is a huge rivalry.
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nada gets paid to go on dating shows with kpop stars and stuff.
ololol. the life of a korean starcraft player.
protoss needs some more harassment potential
lol idra. i thought he thought protoss was overpowered? or am i just misinformed?
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I'm pretty sure IdrA thinks Nerchio is a maphacker or something. A few months ago he forfeited a tournament after losing 1 game to Nerchio (it was a bo3) and when asked about it later he said he doesn't like playing against Nerchio online and quickly changed the topic. Not sure what else he could mean. I'm not saying I agree or anything I don't watch Nerchio nearly enough to make a judgment like that.
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On November 04 2011 08:34 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:23 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism. I didn't say that the entire community called stephano the new Nestea... But his fanboys are just as zaelous as IdrA's and they are very very vocal. And Stephano doesn't have nearly as many haters as IdrA, some of them are just the counterpart of his fanboy, the other are just IdrA's fanboy who don't take kindly the fact that Stephano gets so much hype (and results) . On a all, i think the community is overrating both stephano and IdrA but i sense it a little more for the former since IdrA gets shit on on a daily basis by a large portion of both TL and reddit. You said: "Stephano is overrated by the community". Maybe next time make it clear what you actually means And Stephano has more haters than idra, not in # but relative to his fanbase. Most idra haters aren't really haters but anti-fans tired of his horde of followers & balance QQers. Stepahno on the other hand get blatant hate comments like he cheated, he was lucky, his opponent didn't take it seriously and all kind of stuff to downgrade his wins.
When Idra beat puma at IEM people were saying the games were rigged. Idra's wins get downgraded just as much if not more than stephano. Also I have never seen someone say Idra is the best zerg in the world but I routinely see people say stephano has the best zvt in the world.
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On November 04 2011 08:39 Elean wrote:
About the overated players question, all you need to understand is that Idra is a competitor and he gave the name of 3 player he consider as rival, that's all.
Stephano is currently rated above Idra, so it's perfectly normal that Idra says Stephano is overated. He is not being BM or meaning that Stephano is bad, but as a competitor you have to believe the other guy is not better than you.
Same with Nerchio and Kiwikaki, you can tell their is a huge rivalry.
I don't think nerchio or kiwikaki is considered above idra by anyone.
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On November 04 2011 08:53 arfyron wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 08:34 WaSa wrote:On November 04 2011 08:23 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:41 WaSa wrote:On November 04 2011 07:31 Diavlo wrote:On November 04 2011 07:14 WaSa wrote:
Stephano being overrated is laughable. He's better than idra in every way except macro & metagaming (+understanding the opponent he's facing). TBH I'm also not that much fan of his stylistic play. He overdo it sometimes and it kinda feels like he needs to play funky to be that super good (as opposed to above average foreigner). But that has nothing to with being "overrated".
Stephano is a overrated by the community, just read the TL comments when he wins, he's been put at the same level as Nestea countless times. I also read multiple times that he will be the only player to keep up with the brood war A-teamer when they start playing starcraft 2... Being very very good (idrA's word) doesn't shield you from being overrated. At the moment, IdrA's also overrated, of course it's covered by the fact that 1/4 of the community shits on him blindly . As for Nerchio, he wins a lot of online stuff, but that's not enough for the hype he consistently gets. And the fact that is ZvZ was (and maybe still is) better than IdrA's is hardly enough to say that Idra's opinion is irrelevant. I see some ignorant few fanboys comparing him and Nestea not " the community"; that kind of ridiculous hyperbole is more appropriate to idra actually lol. And stephano has just as many haters as idra and I don't see what that "covers" as it's all fanboyism. I didn't say that the entire community called stephano the new Nestea... But his fanboys are just as zaelous as IdrA's and they are very very vocal. And Stephano doesn't have nearly as many haters as IdrA, some of them are just the counterpart of his fanboy, the other are just IdrA's fanboy who don't take kindly the fact that Stephano gets so much hype (and results) . On a all, i think the community is overrating both stephano and IdrA but i sense it a little more for the former since IdrA gets shit on on a daily basis by a large portion of both TL and reddit. You said: "Stephano is overrated by the community". Maybe next time make it clear what you actually means And Stephano has more haters than idra, not in # but relative to his fanbase. Most idra haters aren't really haters but anti-fans tired of his horde of followers & balance QQers. Stepahno on the other hand get blatant hate comments like he cheated, he was lucky, his opponent didn't take it seriously and all kind of stuff to downgrade his wins. When Idra beat puma at IEM people were saying the games were rigged. Idra's wins get downgraded just as much if not more than stephano. Also I have never seen someone say Idra is the best zerg in the world but I routinely see people say stephano has the best zvt in the world.
If you have never seen anyone say that Idra is the best zerg in the world, clearly you have not been following the scene for a long time. Idra has even been at the top of the "zerg king" poll, which means not only there were people saying Idra is the best, but at some point it was the majority of TL who thought so. Of course this changed after Nestea winning multiple GSL, and Idra struggling after leaving Korea.
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On November 04 2011 08:22 Vei wrote:
Who is this gorgeous interviewer? Seriously I am simply blown away she is so beautiful :O
also IdrA is my hero~
also sexiest accent ever. (not idra)
This nice looking girl is actually a friend of  Adelscott confirmed by him on his stream. Unless my visual memory is failing me I believe she is his girlfriend but I can't be sure. She has a french accent, but her spelling is fluent.
Otherwise  IdrA showed that he is the smartest player out there by far. Though I love Stephano's playstyle, he hasn't the same mechanics as Idra. But on the other hand, he deals with pressure much better than any other zergs and has a swift reaction time that allows him to maintain a strong economical advantage over time. I am waiting for the time he won't win anymore and he will need to work harder to improve.
To OP : You should consider storing your videos elsewhere because it's on the border of advertising. It's a great work and I'd hate to see that go to waste.
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On November 04 2011 09:00 Otolia wrote:
To OP : You should consider storing your videos elsewhere because it's on the border of advertising. It's a great work and I'd hate to see that go to waste.
You mean that she uses her work to promote her work ? That's so evil.
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On November 04 2011 09:03 Elean wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2011 09:00 Otolia wrote:
To OP : You should consider storing your videos elsewhere because it's on the border of advertising. It's a great work and I'd hate to see that go to waste. You mean that she uses her work to promote her work ? That's so evil.
No I mean that the link is a direct one, the custom here is to embedded it or to extract a part of it.
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