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Prize money in Starcraft 2 - Page 3
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Willes
Germany199 Posts
Everybody can read the list. Everybody can decide to not play on tournaments that are well known for not paying. They will think twice about it if they know that it has consequences. | ||
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Origine
France167 Posts
On November 01 2011 00:50 DarKFoRcE wrote: I have been thinking of creating such a thread for months, im happy that you made the step. i have a word file on my computer with all cups that i still get prizemoney from, i will copy it here. please note that some of those tourneys are very recently, so its not a big deal that i havent gotten the money yet, but some are almost, or even more than 1 year ago (for example i havent gotten the 3000 SEK from the dreamhack BYOC qualifier that all the first place finishers of the qualifiers were supposed to get). I hope you can forgive me the slighty unorganized format of my list, but i think it should be clear what is meant in each case. it IS possible that one of those tourneys did pay me, and i forgot to take the tournament off the list, but its not very likely... but yea just wanted to put this here as a warning that i cannot guarantee that the list is 100% perfect (but pretty close to 100). Dailymotion Cup EPS Season 17 EPS Summer 2011 Dreamhack Winter 2010 BYOC Qualifier (3000 SEK) Epiccup invite turnier Virus invite turnier IPL Season 2 WCG National Finals GeForce Pro Turnier TheGreat Showmatch Zotac Monthly Final September 16.10.2011 Polarfluke OPtoberfest ~~340$ 19.10.2011 ESL Monthly Final September One thing i am very happy about is that i have recently gotten my NASL Season 1 prizemoney, even though it was a bit later than promised, it still came relatively quickly, compared to many other events! Another thing that annoys me is that you usually have to ASK via email for the prizemoney, only in rare cases are you actually being contacted by the tournament organizers about the prizemoney... In some cases i had to write many many emails, which costs alot of time and energy and is really making me quite angry at times. Sry but you can delete Virus invite tournament, since Virus is about to disband due to.... not paying promised salaries and shit, aka having 0$ to run the team (being part of Virus i know what i'm talking about >,>) this is another concern, but it sux as well. You wont receive the money any time soon unfortunately t__t To add something that DrooL said about ESL taking their time to pay, EPS.fr season 1 ended like 1 year ago or so, no cash prizes have been paid to the players from the play-offs (season 2 as well obviously  ) | ||
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Loxley
Netherlands2480 Posts
On November 01 2011 00:50 DarKFoRcE wrote: ... IPL Season 2 .. That was in may! And checking results you should've gotten $200.. Such a long wait for this small amount of money. Are the organisers getting all the interest on the money from sponsors or something? "intel, steelseries etc pay up. Ok now let it sit in our bankaccount collecting interest. Winners can wait." I doubt big companies like steelseries/kingston/razer with a e-sports division would take so long to pay the organisers.. Expected more from the bigger names like IPL. Everyone applauds their production value, how about a little professional courtesy by paying your crowd-drawers their money. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:04 HolydaKing wrote: It's Valve so we can be pretty sure they got paid... most tournaments that don't pay are actually willing to pay but can't because they don't get the money from the sponsors or not as much as promised. I think the problem is they run kinda incorrectly. If they promise money they should pay out that money from their own pocket then they deal directly with sponsors if the money doesn't come through. You should never make issues for the players because of the sponsor money taking awhile to come through. | ||
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
I'm amazed this has gone on for so long. | ||
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Achaia
United States643 Posts
On November 01 2011 00:57 Empire.Beastyqt wrote: What if 90% of them quit hosting tours, you think the 10% will be enough? I have a feeling that if sponsors see how badly their names are being represented by some of these tournaments and the negativity surrounding their organization they will start spending their sponsorship dollars with other organizations that are more organized. This is absolutely awful and I can't believe that big name tournaments are doing stuff like this. I don't know if a governing body is necessary but perhaps a third party could validate prize money and hold it for events or something. Like an intermediary company that could give the tournament an official stamp of approval that all prize money is present and accounted for so players could look at the events and choose to not play in an event if it didn't have this seal of confirmation or something. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
Like the 1000s who twittered "Thanks Pepsi for sponsoring GSL" Sponsors really can't have bad publicity in large numbers like that and might react by changing their payment behaviour? | ||
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yoigen
Germany369 Posts
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Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:02 Jerglings wrote: Would you really mind if a tour that didn't pay you stopped? They do pay............eventually its just slow as F and you need to spam them to do it. I agree that they shouldnt host them anymore, but if you blacklist them why would they even pay the money they owe then? There is a chance that over 100.000$ wont be given to players if you shutdown 90% of tournaments and sure new ones might come, but I doubt they'll pop the next day. Another thing you have to keep in mind, the sponsors that "gave" money for it - after they get blacklisted what makes you think they'll sponsor another tournament? Probably some kind of organisation needs to "control" the payments in tournaments, small or big. (or at least regular ones). | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On November 01 2011 01:08 Zandar wrote: Another thing that can be done is for the community to twitter the sponsor of those tournaments with "Why don't you pay prizemoney?" Like the 1000s who twittered "Thanks Pepsi for sponsoring GSL" Sponsors really can't have bad publicity in large numbers like that and might react by changing their payment behaviour? That can't be done because we actually don't know which sponsors promised to pay prizemoney and which did and if they did or if they did not. | ||
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bLooD.
Germany470 Posts
This definitly needs to be spotlighted. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
I don't want to bash any of the organizers or anything, but you are disgrace if you are using pro-players/tournament participants to promote your stuff without giving any prizes or delaying them as much as you can. I seriously hope that more pro-gamers would stood up and tell which organizers are actually the worst ones and either they fix it or then people should start boycotting them as much as possible. | ||
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cmgillett
United States335 Posts
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Bonkarooni
United States383 Posts
Why don't we get a letter together, send it to ESL/their sponsors, and have a bunch of TL members sign it? Something like "We won't support your product until you pay players" | ||
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Geosensation
United States256 Posts
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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DeadBull
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HappyChris
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