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HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
January 12 2012 16:37 GMT
#1561
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
Match
Profile Joined January 2011
215 Posts
January 12 2012 16:37 GMT
#1562
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?

I'd pay to watch this.
bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
January 12 2012 16:45 GMT
#1563
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?

what the fuck just happened
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
Xeanrot
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland138 Posts
January 12 2012 16:49 GMT
#1564
HUK i love you, please shit on the stage, in front of 10k stream viewers and live audience!! :D
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
January 12 2012 16:50 GMT
#1565
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?


This is why we love you <3
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 12 2012 16:50 GMT
#1566
On January 12 2012 19:18 Phobbers wrote:
So, I have a big issue with how FXOboss went about this. Going through his blogs, he went on a huge panic with a post ~4 hours ago acting as if the world is ending. I understand wanting your players to get payed what they won but Providence was barely 2 months ago? 50K is not a small sum, the time needed to process it and get all the legal aspects out of the way probably take a lot longer than the regular 5k payout. FXOboss should be happy Leenock got payed this swiftly after seeing how slow some other organizations are with smaller prizes. It seems to me he overreacted hardcore and caused unneeded drama.

edit; english derp herp


1. apparently, everybody thought MLG was the best at paying prize money with zero delay:
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2. if he makes a panic, that might mean that mlg either did not specify as to when they would pay, or they busted a deadline they set for themselves. the first thing was something that everybody in this thread agreed on should be done and the second is just bad.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
January 12 2012 16:51 GMT
#1567
Someone's been drinking...
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
January 12 2012 16:52 GMT
#1568
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?


I feel ya, dawg.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
January 12 2012 17:02 GMT
#1569
On January 12 2012 19:18 Phobbers wrote:
So, I have a big issue with how FXOboss went about this. Going through his blogs, he went on a huge panic with a post ~4 hours ago acting as if the world is ending. I understand wanting your players to get payed what they won but Providence was barely 2 months ago? 50K is not a small sum, the time needed to process it and get all the legal aspects out of the way probably take a lot longer than the regular 5k payout. FXOboss should be happy Leenock got payed this swiftly after seeing how slow some other organizations are with smaller prizes. It seems to me he overreacted hardcore and caused unneeded drama.

edit; english derp herp


Yeah! If only FXOBoss had just waited 4 more hours! Pure coincidence that he gets notified after he went public with the problem.
Rob28
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada705 Posts
January 12 2012 17:14 GMT
#1570
I know setting up a governing body is not an idea that goes over well with most people in e-sports, but maybe some sort of player's union is in order... that, or contracts signed at the start of each tournament, so there is some sort of legal obligations involved.
"power overwhelming"... work, dammit, work!
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
January 13 2012 08:08 GMT
#1571
On January 12 2012 19:18 Phobbers wrote:
So, I have a big issue with how FXOboss went about this. Going through his blogs, he went on a huge panic with a post ~4 hours ago acting as if the world is ending. I understand wanting your players to get payed what they won but Providence was barely 2 months ago? 50K is not a small sum, the time needed to process it and get all the legal aspects out of the way probably take a lot longer than the regular 5k payout. FXOboss should be happy Leenock got payed this swiftly after seeing how slow some other organizations are with smaller prizes. It seems to me he overreacted hardcore and caused unneeded drama.

edit; english derp herp

Why should players have to wait for organizers to round up the money. This is directly what I stated in my last post. Tournament organizers should be going into tournaments with the checks already written and legal work as far as tax goes grounded.

It shouldn't be an individual organism that runs on revenue hitting a certain safe place before pay out can be made. I don't care if 0 people attend and they take a 500 thousand dollar loss. The bottom line is these tournaments boast huge prize pools but when the time comes to collect the money its like pulling a fucking wisdom tooth.

MLG claims immediate pay, yet it took over 2 months for Leenock and public outcry to receive the money. I also doubt Sundance had the check written out and Boss just so happened to post and wow it was all so magical how everything came together. No I don't believe that.

It's not just MLG. This has been going on for 10 years since CPL started 100k prize pools for 1.6 and not paying.

All I am trying to establish is organizers need to ahead of time take into consideration every cent that is going to be paid out, and subtract that from the expected revenue and immediately pay. And if the expected revenue is a complete farce, it doesn't matter because the organizers should already have checks written out linked to a bank account that has the prize money they are promising.
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 08:23:04
January 13 2012 08:15 GMT
#1572
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?


hey lets stay classy and sophisticated, instead of this we can start a a players union and i can contribute by bringing in my homemade pillsbury cookies
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 13 2012 08:20 GMT
#1573
On January 13 2012 17:15 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?


hey lets stay classy and sophisticated, insetad of this we can start a a players union and i can contribute by bringing in my homemade pillsbury cookies


I usually don't like you TT1 but I think you just won me over lol
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
January 13 2012 08:22 GMT
#1574
y does everyone say that whenever i make a post, so much hate
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 08:33:23
January 13 2012 08:26 GMT
#1575
On January 13 2012 17:22 mTwTT1 wrote:
y does everyone say that whenever i make a post, so much hate


I think it's because mtwtt1 is really a big headache to look at

Edit: To be clear it looks like a crying dude with a sour face and his right hand in a fist but then there's an extra T1 and it messes up the whole face, I'm not sure if it's an extra crying eye or his sideburns or a mullet or maybe he's holding a long stick, but then there's still the 1 which makes no sense or maybe I DONT KNOW
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 08:37:36
January 13 2012 08:32 GMT
#1576
On January 13 2012 17:08 inamorato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 19:18 Phobbers wrote:
So, I have a big issue with how FXOboss went about this. Going through his blogs, he went on a huge panic with a post ~4 hours ago acting as if the world is ending. I understand wanting your players to get payed what they won but Providence was barely 2 months ago? 50K is not a small sum, the time needed to process it and get all the legal aspects out of the way probably take a lot longer than the regular 5k payout. FXOboss should be happy Leenock got payed this swiftly after seeing how slow some other organizations are with smaller prizes. It seems to me he overreacted hardcore and caused unneeded drama.

edit; english derp herp

Why should players have to wait for organizers to round up the money. This is directly what I stated in my last post. Tournament organizers should be going into tournaments with the checks already written and legal work as far as tax goes grounded.

It shouldn't be an individual organism that runs on revenue hitting a certain safe place before pay out can be made. I don't care if 0 people attend and they take a 500 thousand dollar loss. The bottom line is these tournaments boast huge prize pools but when the time comes to collect the money its like pulling a fucking wisdom tooth.

MLG claims immediate pay, yet it took over 2 months for Leenock and public outcry to receive the money. I also doubt Sundance had the check written out and Boss just so happened to post and wow it was all so magical how everything came together. No I don't believe that.

It's not just MLG. This has been going on for 10 years since CPL started 100k prize pools for 1.6 and not paying.

All I am trying to establish is organizers need to ahead of time take into consideration every cent that is going to be paid out, and subtract that from the expected revenue and immediately pay. And if the expected revenue is a complete farce, it doesn't matter because the organizers should already have checks written out linked to a bank account that has the prize money they are promising.

But the thing is, MLG does pay immediately. This was the first occasion, at least since SC2 has been part of the pro circuit, that MLG did not pay the player on the spot. I understand your case of wanting players to get payed on the day they win, and I agree completely. But I feel FXOboss just blew up way too hard and caused way too much drama about it. If anything other organizations need to take a page from MLG's book and pay in a timely fashion.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
January 13 2012 08:35 GMT
#1577
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?


One of the funniest things I read, and didn't even notice it was HuK who wrote it!
Pretty good job there d00d
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
OPL3SA2
Profile Joined April 2011
United States378 Posts
January 13 2012 08:41 GMT
#1578
On January 13 2012 17:08 inamorato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 19:18 Phobbers wrote:
So, I have a big issue with how FXOboss went about this. Going through his blogs, he went on a huge panic with a post ~4 hours ago acting as if the world is ending. I understand wanting your players to get payed what they won but Providence was barely 2 months ago? 50K is not a small sum, the time needed to process it and get all the legal aspects out of the way probably take a lot longer than the regular 5k payout. FXOboss should be happy Leenock got payed this swiftly after seeing how slow some other organizations are with smaller prizes. It seems to me he overreacted hardcore and caused unneeded drama.

edit; english derp herp

Why should players have to wait for organizers to round up the money. This is directly what I stated in my last post. Tournament organizers should be going into tournaments with the checks already written and legal work as far as tax goes grounded.

It shouldn't be an individual organism that runs on revenue hitting a certain safe place before pay out can be made. I don't care if 0 people attend and they take a 500 thousand dollar loss. The bottom line is these tournaments boast huge prize pools but when the time comes to collect the money its like pulling a fucking wisdom tooth.

MLG claims immediate pay, yet it took over 2 months for Leenock and public outcry to receive the money. I also doubt Sundance had the check written out and Boss just so happened to post and wow it was all so magical how everything came together. No I don't believe that.

It's not just MLG. This has been going on for 10 years since CPL started 100k prize pools for 1.6 and not paying.

All I am trying to establish is organizers need to ahead of time take into consideration every cent that is going to be paid out, and subtract that from the expected revenue and immediately pay. And if the expected revenue is a complete farce, it doesn't matter because the organizers should already have checks written out linked to a bank account that has the prize money they are promising.


Listen while most can agree with the majority of what you are saying, the tone is all off I think. At the end of the day, it's a burgeoning scene with limited funds. Everyone is just trying to get by and the people you are vilifying are exactly the ones putting in the hard work and supporting the game, trying to take care of the players, and not making much money in the process themselves. According to the chart, only ESL should be taken to task because over 2 years basically means the money doesn't exist any longer. To every other organization, I say kudos. It takes over 8 months for the NFL to pay out Superbowl bonuses to owners so why should this be held to a different standard?

Ryan
Playoffs? You're talking about playoffs?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20338 Posts
January 13 2012 08:44 GMT
#1579
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?



Im with ya HuK
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
January 13 2012 08:45 GMT
#1580
On January 13 2012 01:37 HuK wrote:
us players need to get all gangsta and shit. im listening to 2pac gangsta party and gangsta paradise at the same time, got me all heated and shit. fuck dis shit we need to get together ride out, then put some motha fukin work on these punk ass tournaments like some o g (original gamers). piss in bottles on stage and shitw hen they dont let us go to bathroom break.

FEEL ME MOTHA FUCKAS?

Oh God, this is golden. Though please don't pee/poo on stage, that'd probably not help the starcraft scene.
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