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On October 28 2011 23:04 Arcanne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 18:32 Azurues wrote:
just switch over man. sc1 is pretty damn old already, nobody wants old stuff (except antique collector).
I am waiting for this moment where big sc1 team switch over to see if they can dominate sc2 too
User was temp banned for this post. you guys seriously temp banned someone for this comment? disgusting. Anyways im curious to see how SCBW players will stack up in about 6-8 months. I'm guessing they are or have been practicing behind the scenes to make a strong debut.
If you actually pay attention for 5 seconds and read what he wrote, you'll know why he got temp banned.
On October 28 2011 23:00 Oktyabr wrote:
Is it really true that these pros are indeed being *forced* to play? If that's the case I'd rather they recruit other talent or existing teams for participation in PL.
Otherwise if these anonymous players were all willing to make the switch, then... welcome aboard! These are exciting times indeed.
There was a crazy rumor that I heard about the new Proleague system, which meant that... well, rumors are rumors so I won't start crazy stuff here. But according to that rumor (seems false at this moment but who knows?), players would have to play both BW and SC2 to be in Proleague.
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On October 28 2011 23:04 Arcanne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 18:32 Azurues wrote:
just switch over man. sc1 is pretty damn old already, nobody wants old stuff (except antique collector).
I am waiting for this moment where big sc1 team switch over to see if they can dominate sc2 too
User was temp banned for this post. you guys seriously temp banned someone for this comment? disgusting. Anyways im curious to see how SCBW players will stack up in about 6-8 months. I'm guessing they are or have been practicing behind the scenes to make a strong debut.
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Oh damn, the noob-era of SC² is finally coming to an end. Bring me some true skills bonjwas.
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On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends.
as much as i like nada hes not even half of flash
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On October 28 2011 22:16 Pelopidas wrote:
This is outrageous. I can't believe that Blizzard can just slap a Starcraft sticker on Command and Conquer 5 and destroy the naturally developed Korean Brood War scene by throwing money. I hope every player, caster and tournament organizer feels ashamed of pretending that SC2 is the true successor of Broodwar in order to make money and gain popularity. If this goes through I will never by another Blizzard product ever again.
This is just too horrible to imagine. Blizzard fucking balances the game for noobs, and terrible players. Can you imagine what would have happened to Brood War if Protoss had been balanced for D level? Blizzard makes incredibly shitty maps so that players can "rush," yet ignores the fact that you can be aggressive on big maps also.
It's like every design decision has been made to dumb the game down so that its popular among casuals. You want to use a shuttle + Reaver, too fucking bad you have a colossus now, its pretty much the same thing. You want to micro carriers, tough shit, the interceptors will now come back, also the goliath can now fly over terrain. You don't like to take more than three bases, cool Browder doesn't like to either, we've changed worker gather rates and added an extra geyser so that taking four or more bases is pointless. You are having problems with seige tanks, no don't use drops or positioning, just make marauders or immortals lol. They have also removed losses from the profiles of noobs, now Joe reddit gold league can feel like a gosu, because that's what makes game good.
I can't believe that every WoW fanboy, Redditor and youtube caster watching noob is getting their way. Oh well, at least I'll have the last laugh when the SC2 foreign scene dies. This has probably damned the Korean scene to a new coke like fiasco as well.
On the surface I think it's easy to make a case that BW is a superior game. But keep in mind that that's largely a function of who is playing and for how long. Yes, you pointed out a few areas of game mechanics where BW is clearly stronger, but who's to say that the top proleaguers won't show us innovative play that isn't possible in BW when/if they switch?
Also, SC2 still has 2 expansions to go. We've definitely not seen the best of what SC2 has to offer.
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I hope KeSPA knows what it's doing, because if they don't, things can get really messy really fast. If they do it right, then both games can coexist for a while longer. If they don't, then there will probably be damage done to both scenes.
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On October 28 2011 23:04 Arcanne wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 18:32 Azurues wrote:
just switch over man. sc1 is pretty damn old already, nobody wants old stuff (except antique collector).
I am waiting for this moment where big sc1 team switch over to see if they can dominate sc2 too
User was temp banned for this post. you guys seriously temp banned someone for this comment? disgusting. Anyways im curious to see how SCBW players will stack up in about 6-8 months. I'm guessing they are or have been practicing behind the scenes to make a strong debut.
Yea, should have been banned.
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United States7639 Posts
On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends.
Key word here is were. If you're going to pick the players who switched when they were past their prime, then yeah, your point stands. But TBLS are not even close. Especially Flash; the boy is only 19, still has years and years of domination left in him.
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On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends.
y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately.
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On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends.
Please, no, COME ON.
How is that remotely fair to compare legends of past to current champions.
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I just had a thought: would Blizzard be open to the teams testing HotS? We can only hope, they have 10 years of ESPORTS experience behind them.
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The only thing left is seeing sAviOr making a comeback.
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On October 28 2011 23:13 Dillinger wrote:
The only thing left is seeing sAviOr making a comeback.
never going to happen bro.
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Does anyone know if there's been any word on Jaedong playing Starcraft 2? I really want to see him on a GomTV match!!!
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On October 28 2011 23:13 Dillinger wrote:
The only thing left is seeing sAviOr making a comeback.
That's just not going to happen.
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Hmm... if they're practicing and likely going to be playing two games next season, I wonder how they'll manage... would be interesting if they end up dropping one game to focus on the other or just go all out on both.
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wow. lol. as soon as even b-teamers start switching over full-time i think we're going to have a whole new generation of stars. kind of have grrr was dominant in the opening stages of starleagues and then koreans just took over. as idra said in the EG hype video "it was fun while it lasted."
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On October 28 2011 23:13 Dillinger wrote:
The only thing left is seeing sAviOr making a comeback.
No way dude...
sAviOr become the voldemort of starcraft, there's no way back for him.
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On October 28 2011 23:10 thoradycus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. as much as i like nada hes not even half of flash
Tied for OSL's and MSL's won, though. Can't say anything about Nada vs Flash in SC2 until we at least see a few games.
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On October 28 2011 23:18 how2TL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:10 thoradycus wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. as much as i like nada hes not even half of flash Tied for OSL's and MSL's won, though. Can't say anything about Nada vs Flash in SC2 until we at least see a few games.
Yes we can.
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