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On October 28 2011 23:25 jpak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:54 ShadeR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:44 Clefairy wrote:On October 28 2011 22:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:37 Yiska wrote:On October 28 2011 22:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:30 JustPassingBy wrote:On October 28 2011 18:29 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Hmm, I'm quite curious. Didn't the polls say most people don't want SC2 on OnGameNet?
e. I'm betting that the team that already started practicing is either KT or SKT. That's because they only asked ongamenet's CURRENT viewerships, which consists mainly on broodwar players. uhhh no,the polls were open to everyone in korea. Dude, really? Is his argument so hard to comprehend. If I'd ask on NHL.com if they'd want to rather watch the FIFA Champion's League the outcome would be the same and barely representative. those polls were on fomos,they were open to everyone,it wasn't specific to OGN. Fomos is a BW community. They are like the BW section of TL, very anti-SC2. The reporters there didn't write any SC2 stories until recently after KeSPA made it clear they're dipping into SC2 too. They still love the BW scene dearly. fomos is not a BW community its a korean news site for all of esports,kpop and other korean teen interests and is very pro SC2, atleast compared to DES. Yeah dudes trippin. IIRC Fomos was pretty problizzard during the lawsuit. DES is often ridiculed as the news arm of Kespa (and had quite a few anti-SC2 articles as well). Fomos covered TSL3. Now did someone say Fomos was anti-SC2? Eh, I always felt that Fomos usually covers way less SC2 content than DES or PlayXP, so maybe the "anti-SC2" feeling comes from that notion.
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This is pretty wild. Can't wait to see some of these BW progamers in action when they inevitably do switch over.
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I would have to imagine that when Fantasy, Jaedong, and Bisu saw what was happening at Blizzcon there was no doubt in their minds what the future was.
Bisu should join SlayerS 
I think Bisu will make protoss look Imba as hell 
Article reads "BW pro's coming to SC2" Sc2 pro's read "Better start practicing 2x more or you will become obsolete!"
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I want to cry. It's not like they enjoy the game or anything, it's just that they *may* have to play SC2 and don't want the gap to be too big if it ever happens.
If they believe the Korean audience will switch as easily, they're fucking wrong. I have no interest in watching those clumped blobs. It may start getting old but as much as hearing "RIBO RIBO RIBO RIBO" could be fucking epic, hearing "COLO COLO COLO COLO" will never ever be. Fuck.
edit : double fuck, I consoled myself when the fake tsunami made me miss the PL grand finals by thinking I'd fly to Korea for the next season and it will be even more epic. I'd better have my BW PL finals next year.
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bisu is in for a rude awakening lol
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I am an esport fan since its beginning, I'm not that young anymore... I was originally into the Counter Strike scene, but after a big break (studies), where I've tried BW, W3, COD, I've finally stopped on SC2.
Iy is really my first attempt to really play an RTS game. Having improved a lot in the past months, I think I can understand everything that is going on in this game now. After having fed on day9 daylies, I just watch some old ones featuring BW. And omg...
With everything that I've heard about BW and its advantages, it is really painful for me to watch a BW game. Not for the graphics (I play Minecraft for god sake), but for everything else. Everything seems so frigide and poor. I don't really recognized the core philosophy of each race, that I've learn form sc2 obviously. Really not for me watching.
If I try to recall how it was to play BW when I tried, it was like trying the play chess with mitten!! There so much things that come into your way when you want to apply a strategy. That is a bit of weird for a rts game. Not fun to play either... I prefer spending my extra apm trying to do better stuff than overcoming a poor AI, pathfinding, and UI, like w3 micro where your brain is actually usefull. I think that if the game were revamped with a better UI, it will just become pointless... From what I've heard, every BWfanboy is just sad for the lack of neediness of "gosu/nerdy" spam clicks to produce a marine and make him move...
So please. Have a though for theses guys who really does not care a single second about BW and are happy with SC2. If you don't like it, we don't care, stay on BW, we have lived without you until now anyway. Quit, boycott blizzard for whatever reason you believe is right. Just stop annoying us. Try to evolve or die like dinausors...
That being said, I would be more that happy to see the BW scene finally try to fit into our sc2 community. If theses BW stars are that good on a strategic level, I'm looking forward to it.
But from what I can see, if you take the superstar boxer, even if he's probably not a the same level as he was, he should still have the mind the come up with great strategies. From what I can see, he's just a cheeser who try to win with his micro in sc2. Was it the reason why he was so good in BW ? If it is so, it is definitely not my kind of strategy game.
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On October 28 2011 23:28 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:25 jpak wrote:On October 28 2011 22:54 ShadeR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:44 Clefairy wrote:On October 28 2011 22:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:37 Yiska wrote:On October 28 2011 22:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:30 JustPassingBy wrote:On October 28 2011 18:29 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Hmm, I'm quite curious. Didn't the polls say most people don't want SC2 on OnGameNet?
e. I'm betting that the team that already started practicing is either KT or SKT. That's because they only asked ongamenet's CURRENT viewerships, which consists mainly on broodwar players. uhhh no,the polls were open to everyone in korea. Dude, really? Is his argument so hard to comprehend. If I'd ask on NHL.com if they'd want to rather watch the FIFA Champion's League the outcome would be the same and barely representative. those polls were on fomos,they were open to everyone,it wasn't specific to OGN. Fomos is a BW community. They are like the BW section of TL, very anti-SC2. The reporters there didn't write any SC2 stories until recently after KeSPA made it clear they're dipping into SC2 too. They still love the BW scene dearly. fomos is not a BW community its a korean news site for all of esports,kpop and other korean teen interests and is very pro SC2, atleast compared to DES. Yeah dudes trippin. IIRC Fomos was pretty problizzard during the lawsuit. DES is often ridiculed as the news arm of Kespa (and had quite a few anti-SC2 articles as well). Fomos covered TSL3. Now did someone say Fomos was anti-SC2? Eh, I always felt that Fomos usually covers way less SC2 content than DES or PlayXP, so maybe the "anti-SC2" feeling comes from that notion. Fomos covered the first two or three seasons of the GSL then stopped most of their SC2 coverage after that.
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On October 28 2011 23:28 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:25 jpak wrote:On October 28 2011 22:54 ShadeR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:44 Clefairy wrote:On October 28 2011 22:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:37 Yiska wrote:On October 28 2011 22:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 28 2011 22:30 JustPassingBy wrote:On October 28 2011 18:29 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Hmm, I'm quite curious. Didn't the polls say most people don't want SC2 on OnGameNet?
e. I'm betting that the team that already started practicing is either KT or SKT. That's because they only asked ongamenet's CURRENT viewerships, which consists mainly on broodwar players. uhhh no,the polls were open to everyone in korea. Dude, really? Is his argument so hard to comprehend. If I'd ask on NHL.com if they'd want to rather watch the FIFA Champion's League the outcome would be the same and barely representative. those polls were on fomos,they were open to everyone,it wasn't specific to OGN. Fomos is a BW community. They are like the BW section of TL, very anti-SC2. The reporters there didn't write any SC2 stories until recently after KeSPA made it clear they're dipping into SC2 too. They still love the BW scene dearly. fomos is not a BW community its a korean news site for all of esports,kpop and other korean teen interests and is very pro SC2, atleast compared to DES. Yeah dudes trippin. IIRC Fomos was pretty problizzard during the lawsuit. DES is often ridiculed as the news arm of Kespa (and had quite a few anti-SC2 articles as well). Fomos covered TSL3. Now did someone say Fomos was anti-SC2? Eh, I always felt that Fomos usually covers way less SC2 content than DES or PlayXP, so maybe the "anti-SC2" feeling comes from that notion. I don't think this deserves any discussion. I was just stupid and wrong. Pay no attention to what I said!
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On October 28 2011 23:26 kakaman wrote: How long would it take for the Bisu TL fanclub to surpass Idra's?
I can honestly see A-class players like Sea who have no chance of winning Proleague/OSL switch over first, because the upside is too high. May take longer for true S Class players to switch, since they still command 200K+ salaries. They'll probably wait until they finish their contracts to switch.
A Class players like Sea? Sea is probably top 3 terrans. He's S Class for sure, and has gone extremely far in many OSL/MSL's. He somehow seems to choke and get nervous in RO4 though. But he is by far one of the best players in the world right now.
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On October 28 2011 23:18 how2TL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:10 thoradycus wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote: Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. as much as i like nada hes not even half of flash Tied for OSL's and MSL's won, though. Can't say anything about Nada vs Flash in SC2 until we at least see a few games.
You can't just look at their achievements and make a judgement like that. The current skill level of flash is much higher than the skill level of Nada and July when they switched to sc2. That's the real difference.
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Oh my god. if flash played sc2 ..
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Sorta sad and happy about this news... I never really followed the BW scene (I have seen some proleague, etc). But I know what BW did for e-sports so I really hope that the BW proscene will still be alive for lots of season to come, but I sort of doubt it.
Very happy about the top SC1 pro's switching to SC2 tho, I wonder what play they will bring to SC2 and how they will "break" SC2.
So sort of mixed feelings about this news, if to many high level BW players switch to SC2, BW will slow die.
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so it has begun
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On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote: Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary.
Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?"
Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner.
Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second.
People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won)
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well this is pretty awesome and scary at the same timeee
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Oh man, this is so crazy.
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On October 28 2011 23:28 Reborn8u wrote:Bisu should join SlayerS 
That would mean Bisu being affiliated with EG. I would die inside... and possibly outside as well.
Besides, the players aren't going anywhere regardless of the game they end up playing. T1 wouldn't lose Bisu over SC2.
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holy crap, just by the scent of this article im fearing future WCG's espcially by the confidence of these quotes, Korea take 1-2-3 at WCG xD
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I speculate that they are going to jump into the scene when HotS is released. It makes sense because the new units will mean that the metagame will shift/reset, but the basic mechanics will still remain, so practicing right now is still good preparation.
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