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NesTea, MVP post-BlizzCon interviews - Page 3

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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
October 27 2011 21:31 GMT
#41
Oh wow Sophie is beautiful. Grats Slasher
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
October 27 2011 21:32 GMT
#42
With next to no macro hatches and also doesn't have all the open bases on the map by this 10k point.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 27 2011 21:33 GMT
#43
On October 28 2011 06:25 Skwid1g wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 06:22 WNT wrote:
Nestea isn't gonna say "Hey i let him win because i felt sorry for the raping he took the night b4" But that is simply exactly what happened.


Okay, we get it. You think he threw the game. But judging from his reaction and the interviews he did I doubt it. He seemed really flustered in every interview and obviously wasn't happy about the loss. Besides, there is no logical reason for him to throw the game. Just because MVP lost to MMA (a series where MVP looked really tilted/tired) doesn't mean Nestea would hand him first place. We've seen DRG and Nestea throw away won games before, it's just the nature of making mistakes in TvZ.

It's hilarious people think NesTea would hand a win over to MVP out of pity. NesTea's got a lot of pride, and he's nice but he's not that nice to his teammates.

(If he were that nice, he would've dropped at least one game to LosirA instead of trashing him 4-0 in the GSL.)
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
October 27 2011 21:34 GMT
#44
The translator for MVP is horrible
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 21:35:33
October 27 2011 21:34 GMT
#45
Losira's ZvZ is just that bad you would have really been able to tell he was throwing games then. Which is highly illegal.
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
October 27 2011 21:35 GMT
#46
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote:
When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??


If he is maxed, that can happen.
KlaraFall
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany51 Posts
October 27 2011 21:35 GMT
#47
DRG, what an awesome interview :D
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 21:37:15
October 27 2011 21:36 GMT
#48
On October 28 2011 06:35 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote:
When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??


If he is maxed, that can happen.

It can happen when you have all the macro hatches you need and have every base on the map which nestea had neither of.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
October 27 2011 21:37 GMT
#49
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote:
When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??


hard to make units when you're at 200/200 maybe?
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
October 27 2011 21:38 GMT
#50
Zerg is also made to throw units away at that point why did he not do that? You will rarely win 200/200 Z v ? so why is it nestea sat there and threw absolutely nothing at MVP til he gathered 19 ghosts?
shaldengeki
Profile Joined May 2009
United States104 Posts
October 27 2011 21:39 GMT
#51
I feel like a lot of the wild speculation about NesTea throwing the last match stems from otherwise-reasonable people failing to recognize that they are in no position to judge the thought processes or mental states of NesTea and MVP at that point in the tournament. It's not a position that you or I have ever been in, and neither you nor I have put in the countless hours of training that NesTea or MVP have into becoming good at SC2, so it's a little silly to think that we can sit back as audience members and properly assess what they were thinking at the time.

Of course, in retrospect it's incredibly easy to see that what NesTea did at the end was a mistake, and that he should have done things differently. It's also really easy to sit back as an audience member with full vision of both players and say that one player is making a mistake based on what we can see of the other player. It's just really tough to really assess what NesTea was thinking and what he was doing as an audience member with the broader set of information that you're afforded.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 27 2011 21:41 GMT
#52
the guy interviewing is so hostile. if i was a nestea i wouldve just walked away.
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
October 27 2011 21:47 GMT
#53
Can we stop with the "Nestea threw the game" bullshit? It is enough already.

Awesome interviews. Seems like there were some problems with the translating but very informative regardless.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 27 2011 22:01 GMT
#54
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote:
When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??

When they're maxed? Seriously, during the time he was maxed he was trying to find a way to engage without heading straight onto like 15 ghosts siege tanks and planetary fortresses in a choke. Then he attacked and it was horribly cost inefficient, he wasn't going to win that game head on no matter how he did it.
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 22:10:30
October 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#55
At that point no when he had enough blings to wipe the map clean. He sure as hell could have. IMHO it defaced the value of e-sports. Pretty much everyone here admits something was fishy but they don't know what.
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
October 27 2011 22:11 GMT
#56
On October 28 2011 07:01 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 06:30 WNT wrote:
When have you see any pro let alone Nestea float 10k minerals??

When they're maxed? Seriously, during the time he was maxed he was trying to find a way to engage without heading straight onto like 15 ghosts siege tanks and planetary fortresses in a choke. Then he attacked and it was horribly cost inefficient, he wasn't going to win that game head on no matter how he did it.

Ya i have seen Nestea maxed b4 what i have never seen is him or ANY pro for that matter maxed with 10k minerals building no static D no extra macro hatches no extra bases.
Artrey
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany270 Posts
October 27 2011 22:11 GMT
#57
DRG is so likable.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
October 27 2011 22:13 GMT
#58
On October 28 2011 06:14 WNT wrote:
When he rolls the dude and has nothing but a few hour break b4 the next games then plays 10x worse?? Somehow i don't buy that.


well thats completely understandable cause im assuming u must play at a bronze level and not realize how hard the meta game of sc2 is when u play someone alllllllll the time 24/7 as a teammate too. But congrats on sounding extremely ignorant since you know so much about playing on the biggest stages of Sc2.
JD, need I say more? :D
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 22:16:27
October 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#59
On October 28 2011 07:08 WNT wrote:
At that point no when he had enough blings to wipe the map clean. He sure as hell could have. IMHO it defaced the value of e-sports. Pretty much everyone here admits something was fishy but they don't know what.

Without any actual support of your 'argument', you should just get the hell out and stop posting the same thing over and over.

If anything is 'defacing' the value of e-sports, its people that make claims about fixed/intentionally thrown games without any proof. Next to that, your analysis is so poor and lacking actual understanding of the game that you shouldn't actually be commenting on actual gameplay.
WNT
Profile Joined October 2011
24 Posts
October 27 2011 22:16 GMT
#60
Watch the game again if that amount of blings couldn't kill MVP when he had them ill be gone.
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