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On October 28 2011 06:17 1Eris1 wrote:
If anyone through games, it was MVP in the first bo3 because he wanted Nestea to have a shot at the finals. (since he was already in the gsl finals that night.)
See, flawless logic
Okay, time to intervene.
Nestea vs MVP's first series in the Blizzcon tournament was AFTER GSL Finals. Jesus, people. Enough with the match-fixing conspiracies!
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Back on topic, I don't see any evidence of hostility on your part, Slasher. Fun interviews, especially the one with MMA where you talk about your hair. Thanks for posting these!
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Just saying 100 banelings would not won Nestea that game unless they connected with the ghosts. Attacking into that choke can be potentially suicide. We all agree that if Nestea loses all his banelings there, the game is over. Nestea cannot scout the tank count, nor the planetary count, he cannot know if 100 banelings will instantly evaporate or be amazing. Sure, Nestea fucked up badly but don't tell me a plat player could have won against that mech turtle. Unlike Idra vs Puma, MVP had perfect defense, thanks to his amazing BW turret tank turtling TvT.
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Dear god WNT can you give it a rest? This is a Interview thread not a "nestea threw the game away thread". If you feel so strongly about it, well keep it to yourself and just shut up. Let people have a chance to talk about the interviews if they want.
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I feel bad for MVP that he thinks he is in pool play in Providence... Hopefully he finds out soon :x
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i'm not saying slasher is ugly or something but his gf is way too hot for him xD
i hope she gets more into sc2.
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I think Nestea felt really really embarrassed at times in this interview-- it's his first international tournament, and this interview will be seen by a really wide audience. I think a lot of people expected Nestea to win, and this post-loss interview probably felt like he was losing face at times.
I cringed inside at a few points in the interview.
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On October 28 2011 06:29 ElMeanYo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 06:26 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 28 2011 06:22 ElMeanYo wrote:
As much as I love Nestea, something was going on in that final game... Cmon, 30 broodlords with no protection vs MvP's viking/ghost combo?
Either he threw that last game (unlikely) or he was just really really tired (more likely).
Can't take too much away from MVP as hes the best terran but still... I think after the winners bracket win Nestea had momentum and it was his tournament to lose and he did.
So sad, hope to see him get revenge at providence. oh come on, the game was already lost at that point. MVP had a critical amount of ghosts and vikings with tank support. Nestea could have done something else other than spend it on 30 broodlords and thrown them away. I don't know what though. It seems to me like his thought process was 'oh well, I'm tired, had enough and feel I can't win so lets make 30 broodlords for the fans'.
That's exactly how I read the situation.
Look at it from Nestea's PoV.
MVP has owned him in practice *and* tournament games.
Nestea had tried a Nydus, a doom drop, running around with banelings and an earlier hive tech attack that got slammed shut.
Game has passed the 40 minute mark
MVP has equal economy and soon to be greater economy with his more effective harass and nuke play
MVP has no desire to make a game ending push.
So Nestea can sit there and die slowly, gg and look like he's quiting, or cobble something together for one last push (showy or not).
If we take out the last attack from the game, then doesn't it start to look more like any other spoon-terran style win?
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By the logic of some people idra threw that game against MMA.
Its easy to comment on a progamer when you are just watching it through the point of view of an spectator. Its easy to forget that progamers are humans and can screw up.
Seriously no one has any kind of proof, stop with this Bullcrap about match fixing. I know you guys are addict to drama but this is just terrible.
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MVP doesn't like TvT? that's hard to believe
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If nestea was tired at blizzcon, I wonder how he will be able to play at many long games providence.
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Regarding the question about "Were you two trying to put on a show for the crowd?"
Here's a pretty literal translation of Nestea's answer. Hopefully this will clarify a little bit more than the in-video translation.
"There were some things. For instance, in the last game, originally I was thinking of attacking somewhere in the middle (middle in this context denotes time). If I had attacked there would have been a lot of hectic engagements but I wanted to show the crowd some units they hadn't seen. And even though I lost, [explains that there's a unit called a broodlord] I made more broodlords than have ever appeared in a game before. In that sense, I think it was good. "
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Great interviews slasher, especially the DRG one. That looked like a lot of fun.
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Slasher is a troll with his conspiracy theory about Nestea throwing the game away on purpose and tbh he is also a very bad interviewer, half questions are redudant, useless or just bad, when he has Nestea and Mvp in front of him doesn't manage to get a good itw... that sucks
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I don't understand all these comments accusing the players of match fixing/throwing the game away. Regardless of how good Nestea is, he is still human. He makes mistakes, he gets nervous, he chokes, its something everyone goes through. Not even Nestea can make the right choices 100% of the time.
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no offense to the translators but my Korean friend tells me the translations are off.
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You can seriously tell Nestea was disgruntled and tired, it made me cringe to see someone beat around the bush to get at something that would be a huge insult to Nestea... Hell, the redundancy of the questions is seriously trying to get Nestea to say something controversial.
And the translation is kind of off. Not as bad as the guy during the finals, but off...
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Slasher needs better translators
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Her Korean -> English translation is meh... She forgets and says only like half of what mvp or nestea said.
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Tiresome that people continue to imply match fixing with no evidence - it's a pretty serious accusation, there's this thing called burden of proof...if you don't know don't accuse.
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