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On October 24 2011 07:31 Fandango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 06:48 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 06:34 Fandango wrote:
I mean I really like EG as of now but the post CGS counter strike debacle was a bit shady. Since then though I don't think they've done much wrong. I mean the Marn thing is a bit weird but who knows how much of what he said is true, I mean no one's surprised about them favouring justin over him due to tournament results, but if they only sponsored Marn so he could persuade Justin to leave EMP that's very iffy. I mean Justin should've left EMP way earlier than he did but that's another issue. Not sure if I know what you mean Then quote something you don't get instead of a whole post with multiple topics. Write out a proper response instead of what I can only assume is some post count increasing worthless post that you'll follow up and clarify later so you can get 2 more precious posts. That was possibly the most irritating thing you could've said.
Dude it was a joke cause you said "I mean" a lot.
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Oh thank jeebus its just a training partnership.
Merging teams would have been an epic bad decision for the community. In the short term, it makes sense to just win every tourney and make some cash and get exposure, but having one dominant dynasty alienates fans.
Fans want emotion, fans want rivalry. Fans love bad-boy IdrA, fans love mannerbear Sheth, fans love the underdog foreigners playing against the dreamteam SlayerS... I'm glad it's just so they can practice together.
For the continuation of eSports, we need to mirror traditional sports. Traditional sports have guys you hate, guys you love, rivalries, dynasties, cinderella stories... I'd prefer to see more teams, and less mergers.
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Also for all the people saying a training partnership benefits EG more than it does SlayerS: Only in Korea is that the case. Westerners have a distinctly different playstyle that has taken more than a few Koreans unawares in the last year, and having a handful of skilled foreigners in the SlayerS house will help their more internationally-minded members be able to counter evolutions in western play more readily.
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On October 24 2011 12:04 AutomatonOmega wrote:
Also for all the people saying a training partnership benefits EG more than it does SlayerS: Only in Korea is that the case. Westerners have a distinctly different playstyle that has taken more than a few Koreans unawares in the last year, and having a handful of skilled foreigners in the SlayerS house will help their more internationally-minded members be able to counter evolutions in western play more readily.
If you think SlayerS will benefit MORE than EG, you are quite mistaken....
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I really don't see any benefit for SlayerS really. None of the players coming in play any differently from Koreans especially Huk and IdrA. They all play similarly to Koreans like MC and DRG. SlayerS also has been known to be one of the Korean teams that create the most new strategies although its mostly terran strats.
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On October 24 2011 12:08 SoKHo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 12:04 AutomatonOmega wrote:
Also for all the people saying a training partnership benefits EG more than it does SlayerS: Only in Korea is that the case. Westerners have a distinctly different playstyle that has taken more than a few Koreans unawares in the last year, and having a handful of skilled foreigners in the SlayerS house will help their more internationally-minded members be able to counter evolutions in western play more readily. If you think SlayerS will benefit MORE than EG, you are quite mistaken....
I didn't say that either.
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I think its actually a give and take. Slayers team will learn more about the playstyle of people in NA and vice versa.
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On October 24 2011 12:12 ikarosprime wrote:
I really don't see any benefit for SlayerS really. None of the players coming in play any differently from Koreans especially Huk and IdrA. They all play similarly to Koreans like MC and DRG. SlayerS also has been known to be one of the Korean teams that create the most new strategies although its mostly terran strats.
Not every benefit has to be game/practise related. Like another poster stated before, slayers now have a place to stay, warm up etc before mlg and other us based tournys. This will help with the dreaded jet lag.
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That's for a specific location though unless EG has gaming houses all over America not all tournaments are going to be in the same area. I do agree that more people will create better ideas and strategies, but in terms of going to tournaments in the US I don't really see much benefit in that.
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I really hope they show the RIP-Idra video when he returns to Code A :D or a modified version of it.
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On October 24 2011 07:31 Fandango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 06:48 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 06:34 Fandango wrote:
I mean I really like EG as of now but the post CGS counter strike debacle was a bit shady. Since then though I don't think they've done much wrong. I mean the Marn thing is a bit weird but who knows how much of what he said is true, I mean no one's surprised about them favouring justin over him due to tournament results, but if they only sponsored Marn so he could persuade Justin to leave EMP that's very iffy. I mean Justin should've left EMP way earlier than he did but that's another issue. Not sure if I know what you mean Then quote something you don't get instead of a whole post with multiple topics. Write out a proper response instead of what I can only assume is some post count increasing worthless post that you'll follow up and clarify later so you can get 2 more precious posts. That was possibly the most irritating thing you could've said.
Still not sure if I understand what you mean.
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On October 24 2011 12:12 ikarosprime wrote:
I really don't see any benefit for SlayerS really. None of the players coming in play any differently from Koreans especially Huk and IdrA. They all play similarly to Koreans like MC and DRG. SlayerS also has been known to be one of the Korean teams that create the most new strategies although its mostly terran strats.
well MMA already practiced with Puma, so having him in the house will be a good thing. Having one of the best protoss players in the world will help too. And I'm sure SlayerS is getting good money too.
SlayerS wouldn't do this if they werent benefiting from it.
On October 24 2011 13:37 Zdrastochye wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 07:31 Fandango wrote:On October 24 2011 06:48 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 06:34 Fandango wrote:
I mean I really like EG as of now but the post CGS counter strike debacle was a bit shady. Since then though I don't think they've done much wrong. I mean the Marn thing is a bit weird but who knows how much of what he said is true, I mean no one's surprised about them favouring justin over him due to tournament results, but if they only sponsored Marn so he could persuade Justin to leave EMP that's very iffy. I mean Justin should've left EMP way earlier than he did but that's another issue. Not sure if I know what you mean Then quote something you don't get instead of a whole post with multiple topics. Write out a proper response instead of what I can only assume is some post count increasing worthless post that you'll follow up and clarify later so you can get 2 more precious posts. That was possibly the most irritating thing you could've said. Still not sure if I understand what you mean.
lmfao
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I can't understand why SlayerS would want to do that (apart from money): any SlayerS member could easily steamroll the entire EG sans Puma and HuK. If Idra is in a good day he could help some, but he's not as good as Coca, Yu-Gi-Oh or Min, or even Cella as a coach.
The only thing I can get is that they want Puma as a training partner because he's one of the best around, but then again, any of Boxer's sons (MMA, Ryung, GanZi or Taeja) can mop the floor with him.
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Translator is absolutely terrible
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On October 24 2011 16:01 Aserrin wrote:
I can't understand why SlayerS would want to do that (apart from money): any SlayerS member could easily steamroll the entire EG sans Puma and HuK. If Idra is in a good day he could help some, but he's not as good as Coca, Yu-Gi-Oh or Min, or even Cella as a coach.
The only thing I can get is that they want Puma as a training partner because he's one of the best around, but then again, any of Boxer's sons (MMA, Ryung, GanZi or Taeja) can mop the floor with him.
First off... welcome to TL.
Now that we have settled that... I don't know all the details, but one of the biggest benefits that SlayerS can get from this is having easy access to foreign events in many respects. They can have funding to fly out to the tournaments (by representing EGs sponsors) since most, if not all Korean teams are short on cash and sponsors. On top of that, if they would like to, they are likely able to fly out to the team house in Arizona to train for a bit while overcoming jet lag. Even if the tournament is on the east coast of the US, that is negligible when it comes to jet lag.
And then there are some smaller things like it brings even more recognition to their team, and they do get new practice partners such as IdrA, Demuslim, HuK and Puma.
And what does SlayerS have to "sarcrifice" or contribute? Likely just accommodation for the EG players.
Again, I don't know the details so maybe some of what I said is false, but I think it is quite a reasonable partnership. Even if one side benefits a bit more than the other, they still both benefit.
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On October 22 2011 17:21 Rylaji wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 16:41 enemy2010 wrote:On October 22 2011 16:36 Rylaji wrote:
Lets face it, IdrA is gonna spend all his days getting cheesed by BoxeR untill he can HANDLE THAT! ....which is a good thing, obv....? Didn't imply that it wasn't =)
I don't think Idra could survive a day locked in a room with Boxer.
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On October 24 2011 16:01 Aserrin wrote:
I can't understand why SlayerS would want to do that (apart from money): any SlayerS member could easily steamroll the entire EG sans Puma and HuK. If Idra is in a good day he could help some, but he's not as good as Coca, Yu-Gi-Oh or Min, or even Cella as a coach.
The only thing I can get is that they want Puma as a training partner because he's one of the best around, but then again, any of Boxer's sons (MMA, Ryung, GanZi or Taeja) can mop the floor with him.
This rolled in alongside Quantic-IM, another foreigner-Korean pair. Easier access to foreign tournaments is a huge plus; iirc Quantic is helping to send MVP and Nestea to Providence whereas that might not have been possible without the partnership.
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On October 24 2011 16:01 Aserrin wrote:
I can't understand why SlayerS would want to do that (apart from money): any SlayerS member could easily steamroll the entire EG sans Puma and HuK. If Idra is in a good day he could help some, but he's not as good as Coca, Yu-Gi-Oh or Min, or even Cella as a coach.
The only thing I can get is that they want Puma as a training partner because he's one of the best around, but then again, any of Boxer's sons (MMA, Ryung, GanZi or Taeja) can mop the floor with him.
Of course it's about money. Why would you think otherwise? Also Both Puma and Idra is capable of beating Slayers players.
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Anyone know when the next GSL starts and if Idra + Demuslim will be in the upcoming one?
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