• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:12
CET 13:12
KST 21:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.174Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid?
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Do we even care about balance? SCHNAIL now supports Remastered
Tourneys
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9750 users

Is the « spoiler fear » hurting E-sports ? - Page 37

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 59 Next
We are currently talking about this issue in the mod forum. We take this issue very seriously, and want to find the best way to serve those who want faster results, and those that don't wish to be spoiled.
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 13 2011 23:30 GMT
#721
On October 14 2011 08:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:24 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:19 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:01 Blasterion wrote:
ok spoiler haters, think of it this way, If you were Liquid'Jinro and you just won say....MLG Orlando, you check on your own team's website after you get home, teamliquid.net (i know the team site is pro but tl is still tl) You don't see anything reflecting your achievement and no comments on the front page etc., doesn't that suck?

Now think this, you are Liquid'Jinro, you just won MLG Orlando, you get drinks with the fellow Liquidites and go home, open up teamliquid.net, BAM your big smiling face right in the dab of the front page because you just did something awesome. You'd feel awesome right?

so dear spoiler nazis, think for the Liquidites, sacrifice a little to make them happy


Except: everyone who watched you win, knows you won.

Except: everyone who will read your article that has been beautifully summarized, detailed and with images will know you won.

Except: When you come home, regardless how the front page looks like, you know you won.

Except: Liquipedia and the LR topics, thousands of posts and countless pages all screaming or typing out your name know you won.

except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except

Bottom line, you won, regardless how long it takes TL to publicize it

Except you're not on the front page of your own team's website


You will when they release the big article in due time.

Everyone who watched or informed themselves, know you won.
What's the issue? That a website didn't publicly state you won yet?

Yeah, I'm sure competitive gaming is melting as we speak. Bless its soul.

To deny the team members that kind of euphoria because of spoiler policies is just disappointing. Now let's go back to this

[image loading]
Last time i checked TL was a news site, and old news isn't news anymore.


They're not denying, they're delaying to account for everyone's schedules and lives. Your choice of words could use another shake on the boggle cube.

Congratulations. Old news and news both have the same word: "news".
News is relative, It's news to me that Destiny joined with QXG despite it not being as recent as when it was first announced or learned.

Nice try though, let's go another round. The fact that Jinro won is still news and still true regardless of when it is published.

Again, save competitive gaming! It's melting! How does this defeat or deter competitive gaming again?

Let's also remember that if you watch the games, check the forums everywhere but the site news, you'll learn Jinro won, there is still euphoria, you just like to blur details


It saves people too lazy to click twice time.
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:42:10
October 13 2011 23:31 GMT
#722
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch events live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.
Taengoo ♥
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 13 2011 23:32 GMT
#723
On October 14 2011 08:30 fortheGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:27 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:24 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:19 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:17 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:01 Blasterion wrote:
ok spoiler haters, think of it this way, If you were Liquid'Jinro and you just won say....MLG Orlando, you check on your own team's website after you get home, teamliquid.net (i know the team site is pro but tl is still tl) You don't see anything reflecting your achievement and no comments on the front page etc., doesn't that suck?

Now think this, you are Liquid'Jinro, you just won MLG Orlando, you get drinks with the fellow Liquidites and go home, open up teamliquid.net, BAM your big smiling face right in the dab of the front page because you just did something awesome. You'd feel awesome right?

so dear spoiler nazis, think for the Liquidites, sacrifice a little to make them happy


Except: everyone who watched you win, knows you won.

Except: everyone who will read your article that has been beautifully summarized, detailed and with images will know you won.

Except: When you come home, regardless how the front page looks like, you know you won.

Except: Liquipedia and the LR topics, thousands of posts and countless pages all screaming or typing out your name know you won.

except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except except

Bottom line, you won, regardless how long it takes TL to publicize it

Except you're not on the front page of your own team's website


You will when they release the big article in due time.

Everyone who watched or informed themselves, know you won.
What's the issue? That a website didn't publicly state you won yet?

Yeah, I'm sure competitive gaming is melting as we speak. Bless its soul.

To deny the team members that kind of euphoria because of spoiler policies is just disappointing. Now let's go back to this

[image loading]
Last time i checked TL was a news site, and old news isn't news anymore.


They're not denying, they're delaying to account for everyone's schedules and lives. Your choice of words could use another shake on the boggle cube.

Congratulations. Old news and news both have the same word: "news".
News is relative, It's news to me that Destiny joined with QXG despite it not being as recent as when it was first announced or learned.

Nice try though, let's go another round. The fact that Jinro won is still news and still true regardless of when it is published.

Again, save competitive gaming! It's melting! How does this defeat or deter competitive gaming again?

Let's also remember that if you watch the games, check the forums everywhere but the site news, you'll learn Jinro won, there is still euphoria, you just like to blur details


It saves people too lazy to click twice time.


God forbid! :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
October 13 2011 23:33 GMT
#724
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?


Thats the point, it adds value for some people but doesn't take away anything because you have ample resources to check results/discuss them.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 13 2011 23:34 GMT
#725
There is no direct effect of competitive gaming as a whole and this dilemma people like to blow up into a large balloon.

Suck it up is my blunt way of saying things, but I don't mind the back and forths :3
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
VillageBC
Profile Joined January 2011
322 Posts
October 13 2011 23:35 GMT
#726
Spoilers should just be expected as a part of sports. It's the responsibility of the person who wants to avoid being spoiled to hide himself from the information. Just like people who watch sporting events after the fact tend to not listen to radio, avoid colleagues, go lalala when their sport comes up.

Just accept the fact that people watch it live, and if you can't go dig yourself a cave and hide in it until you have a chance to watch it.

Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:41:26
October 13 2011 23:39 GMT
#727
On October 14 2011 08:35 VillageBC wrote:
Spoilers should just be expected as a part of sports. It's the responsibility of the person who wants to avoid being spoiled to hide himself from the information. Just like people who watch sporting events after the fact tend to not listen to radio, avoid colleagues, go lalala when their sport comes up.

Just accept the fact that people watch it live, and if you can't go dig yourself a cave and hide in it until you have a chance to watch it.



There is no burden in delaying news coverage for those who haven't seen it yet.
In addition, if you cannot account for time-zones and the livelihoods of people, then that, in itself, would kill competitive gaming as a global market because of one's ignorance to completely oblige those who can't stay up to 5 in the morning to watch something, to avoid community sites and areas they are passionate about. If you can't account for the vast majority who don't live in the same timezone as the tournament, you essentially shun them away and lower the number of interested parties.

So that's point #1.

Point #2 is that the site doesn't delay solely or for the reason to avoid spoilers (I believe a few pages back, the correction was made). That being said, delaying news doesn't mean it isn't news and it doesn't affect those who already know.

So. We've established two things: 1. Your thinking process could kill competitive gaming, contrary to your own notion that the opposite has a deterring effect.

and 2. The news being delayed doesn't affect those who already know, so the downsides for both parties are 0% to 0%

Oh look, this isn't killing competitive gaming at all
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
October 13 2011 23:40 GMT
#728
People need to worry less about hurting esports and focus more on helping it. I for one would love to see another MrBitter pop out of the woodwork as a vocal community member / event manager / dude who makes shit happen. You could spend an age wondering if walking with your left foot first will ultimately cause an imbalance in your leg strength and impede your 100m sprint, or you could spend an age training and be fast as all shit because of it.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:44:00
October 13 2011 23:42 GMT
#729
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.

if TL is community first then the homepage would be the forums. I don't think more than half of TL deserves to not have watered down, neutered news headlines just so we can satisfy the minority that wants to avoid spoilers. It's their responsibility to not be spoiled. Not ours

For example
Jinro takes Down Korean Champion in MLG Orlando or Foreigner Rise in MLG Orlando, Reign of Koreans over?
vs
Congratulations to Winner of MLG Orlando
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 13 2011 23:42 GMT
#730
On October 14 2011 08:40 Staboteur wrote:
People need to worry less about hurting esports and focus more on helping it. I for one would love to see another MrBitter pop out of the woodwork as a vocal community member / event manager / dude who makes shit happen. You could spend an age wondering if walking with your left foot first will ultimately cause an imbalance in your leg strength and impede your 100m sprint, or you could spend an age training and be fast as all shit because of it.


Thank you.

We live in a negative world where the only way to help competitive gaming is to find ways to prevent it from being slowed down as if it could go any faster.

People need to either: enjoy the ride and support it in ways that help it grow financially or with exposure.

or 2. Stop fucking being so negative and realize that competitive gaming is a big boy and is doing fine.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
StatikKhaos
Profile Joined January 2011
United States214 Posts
October 13 2011 23:43 GMT
#731
Its annoying how long it takes for stuff to get talked about, when someone wins a major tournament the background should change to their face kissing the trophy...also why would you come to a website like team liquid if you didnt want the results spoiled >.<
Those Bitches
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:44:55
October 13 2011 23:43 GMT
#732
On October 14 2011 08:42 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.

if TL is community first then the homepage would be the forums. I don't think more than half of TL deserves to not have watered down, neutered news headlines just so we can satisfy the minority that wants to avoid spoilers. It's their responsibility to not be spoiled. Not ours



Hey, you missed my counterpoint.

I'll take the reigns! It's not a minority, why are you so close-minded? From Eastern Europe to All of Asia is more of a majority than the Western hemisphere.

There is no burden on the site or those who already know the news to withhold spoiled news.

Try another direction please.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 13 2011 23:44 GMT
#733
On October 14 2011 08:43 StatikKhaos wrote:
Its annoying how long it takes for stuff to get talked about, when someone wins a major tournament the background should change to their face kissing the trophy...also why would you come to a website like team liquid if you didnt want the results spoiled >.<


Because the site offers more than just tournament results and news.
Because the site also considers other people's lives and scheduling differences.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:45:09
October 13 2011 23:44 GMT
#734
On October 14 2011 08:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:42 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.

if TL is community first then the homepage would be the forums. I don't think more than half of TL deserves to not have watered down, neutered news headlines just so we can satisfy the minority that wants to avoid spoilers. It's their responsibility to not be spoiled. Not ours



Hey, you missed my counterpoint.

I'll take the reigns! It's not a minority, why are you so close-minded?
There is no burden on the site or those who already know the news to withhold spoiled news.

Try another direction please.

Poll: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

Yes (4507)
 
86%

No (386)
 
7%

Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible. (364)
 
7%

5257 total votes

Your vote: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible.


about that minority thing
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:46:53
October 13 2011 23:45 GMT
#735
On October 14 2011 08:44 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:42 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.

if TL is community first then the homepage would be the forums. I don't think more than half of TL deserves to not have watered down, neutered news headlines just so we can satisfy the minority that wants to avoid spoilers. It's their responsibility to not be spoiled. Not ours



Hey, you missed my counterpoint.

I'll take the reigns! It's not a minority, why are you so close-minded?
There is no burden on the site or those who already know the news to withhold spoiled news.

Try another direction please.

Poll: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

Yes (4507)
 
86%

No (386)
 
7%

Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible. (364)
 
7%

5257 total votes

Your vote: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible.

about that minority thing


Nice try.

Doesn't account for those who don't give a shit.
Doesn't account for those who didn't think things through.
Doesn't account for non-english speakers community members.
Doesn't even have a majority number? you think 3000 people is a majority? rofl
Doesn't even poll this to other community hubs (reddit, WP.org)

Round 3, let's go :3 You missed my counterpoint with your hypothetical situation of Jinro and now you have this minority thing you can't seem to really fight for.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 13 2011 23:47 GMT
#736
On October 14 2011 08:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:44 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:42 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.

if TL is community first then the homepage would be the forums. I don't think more than half of TL deserves to not have watered down, neutered news headlines just so we can satisfy the minority that wants to avoid spoilers. It's their responsibility to not be spoiled. Not ours



Hey, you missed my counterpoint.

I'll take the reigns! It's not a minority, why are you so close-minded?
There is no burden on the site or those who already know the news to withhold spoiled news.

Try another direction please.

Poll: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

Yes (4507)
 
86%

No (386)
 
7%

Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible. (364)
 
7%

5257 total votes

Your vote: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible.

about that minority thing


Nice try.

Doesn't account for those who don't give a shit.
Doesn't account for those who didn't think things through.
Doesn't account for non-english speakers community members.
Doesn't even have a majority number? you think 3000 people is a majority? rofl

Round 3, let's go :3

If they didn't vote, then oh well, they probably don't give a shit, so appeal more to the majority of the people that give a shit?
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:49:04
October 13 2011 23:48 GMT
#737
On October 14 2011 08:47 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:44 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:43 Torte de Lini wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:42 Blasterion wrote:
On October 14 2011 08:31 xBillehx wrote:
TL was a community first, and given 95% of it's content is community driven, it's community aspect takes a front seat. If it's harmful to a part of the community they'll make a decision to either go with it or not. Respect their decision and respect your fellow TL members.

I said this before but I catch event's live, probably more than most people here, so spoilers don't affect me personally. Instead of running around creating topics in general, SC2 general & the strategy forum proclaiming recent winners as Gods, I respect my fellow TL members who don't want to be spoiled and keep discussion in LR threads, fanclubs and specially marked threads. If I can do this, follow the hype and share my own euphoria with fellow TL members who just saw the same games I did without spoiling it for those who haven't, why can't you?

Edit: Just so there's no confusion my post is directed at Blasterion.

if TL is community first then the homepage would be the forums. I don't think more than half of TL deserves to not have watered down, neutered news headlines just so we can satisfy the minority that wants to avoid spoilers. It's their responsibility to not be spoiled. Not ours



Hey, you missed my counterpoint.

I'll take the reigns! It's not a minority, why are you so close-minded?
There is no burden on the site or those who already know the news to withhold spoiled news.

Try another direction please.

Poll: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

Yes (4507)
 
86%

No (386)
 
7%

Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible. (364)
 
7%

5257 total votes

Your vote: Do think live tournament results on TL frontpage is a good idea ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Yes, but only if TL add a spoilerfree VOD page that is easily accessible.

about that minority thing


Nice try.

Doesn't account for those who don't give a shit.
Doesn't account for those who didn't think things through.
Doesn't account for non-english speakers community members.
Doesn't even have a majority number? you think 3000 people is a majority? rofl

Round 3, let's go :3

If they didn't vote, then oh well, they probably don't give a shit, so appeal more to the majority of the people that give a shit?


They don't give a shit about the topic because the issue is ludicrous and downright and utterly stupid and ignorant of so many factors you just had me list for your personally.

We are appealing to the majority, you just keep blurring out that detail.

Speaking of details: Doesn't account for those who didn't think things through.
Doesn't account for non-english speakers community members.
Doesn't even have a majority number? you think 3000 people is a majority? rofl


Minus those who don't give a shit, what about these people? This puts doubt that your poll is a majority

or did you ignore that too?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 13 2011 23:49 GMT
#738
Ok, regarding time zones, World Cup doesn't always happen at a good time for people to watch, they are live reported basically.
It's not a burden to the website but it is a feature that will be appreciated by the majority that cares
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 23:52:42
October 13 2011 23:50 GMT
#739
On October 14 2011 08:49 Blasterion wrote:
Ok, regarding time zones, World Cup doesn't always happen at a good time for people to watch, they are live reported basically.
It's not a burden to the website but it is a feature that will be appreciated by the majority that cares


How many times does World Cup occur?
How many times is the World Cup playing in one specific time zone each time?
How many people watch the World Cup?
How many sites are there that broadcast or talk about the World Cup?

Your parallel comparison is not even close to parallel, come on.

Round 4.

P.S: it's not the majority, you seem to ignore this everytime.

Which majority appreciates it? Those who watched it or those who frequent LR topics? How do they appreciate it? What aspect do they like the most about it?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
October 14 2011 00:02 GMT
#740
On October 14 2011 08:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 08:40 Staboteur wrote:
People need to worry less about hurting esports and focus more on helping it. I for one would love to see another MrBitter pop out of the woodwork as a vocal community member / event manager / dude who makes shit happen. You could spend an age wondering if walking with your left foot first will ultimately cause an imbalance in your leg strength and impede your 100m sprint, or you could spend an age training and be fast as all shit because of it.


Thank you.

We live in a negative world where the only way to help competitive gaming is to find ways to prevent it from being slowed down as if it could go any faster.

People need to either: enjoy the ride and support it in ways that help it grow financially or with exposure.

or 2. Stop fucking being so negative and realize that competitive gaming is a big boy and is doing fine.

I can't believe how seriously people are taking this thread title, lol.

I guess I should have called it "Is the de-antispoilerization of TL the new great hope of E-Sports ?"

If you read the OP, you probably won't have a feeling of "negativity", same for the poll question.

Cheers, fellow montrealer.
quote unquote
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 59 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IntoTheTV X SOOP
20:00
Premier - Group D
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
IntoTheiNu 1138
WardiTV639
Rex110
CranKy Ducklings76
LiquipediaDiscussion
KCM Race Survival
19:00
Season 4 Week 3
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 1576
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko276
Rex 110
StarCraft: Brood War
Bisu 1700
Horang2 1230
actioN 958
Shuttle 912
Jaedong 792
Soma 333
Stork 276
FanTaSy 267
Light 253
Snow 215
[ Show more ]
Mini 198
EffOrt 174
Larva 171
Last 144
Mind 117
ggaemo 74
Hyun 71
Barracks 57
ToSsGirL 38
Sea.KH 32
Sharp 31
910 28
Sexy 28
sSak 27
JYJ 26
hero 23
Sacsri 21
Free 20
Terrorterran 19
soO 13
yabsab 13
Noble 10
zelot 6
Dota 2
Gorgc10195
XcaliburYe251
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1202
Other Games
singsing1204
B2W.Neo791
crisheroes313
DeMusliM276
dupreeh211
ArmadaUGS104
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL48822
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt884
Other Games
• WagamamaTV188
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 49m
OSC
9h 49m
GSL
23h 49m
Epic.LAN
1d
Replay Cast
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 21h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 23h
Epic.LAN
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
Yamato Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Map Test Tournament
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.