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Razer and FXO send Leenock and Lucky to IPL3 - Page 12

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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 09:02:16
October 01 2011 06:28 GMT
#221
On October 01 2011 02:07 DoomsVille wrote:
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On October 01 2011 01:52 skrotcyk wrote:
Well, what about Stephano isn't he like 16 or 17?

Also i'm getting sick of all dumb American laws, ruining e-sports!

He's 18.

And how can you fault a casino for not wanting 15/16 year olds inside? lol


It's not illegal for them to be inside the casino only illegal for them to place wagers. Apparently NJ has some additional law where he can't physically touch anything either. Many Casino's in other states have a specific path set aside for underage people who need to pass through the gaming area to get to events with people watching them etc.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 01 2011 07:04 GMT
#222
On October 01 2011 08:25 bittman wrote:
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On October 01 2011 06:23 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I really can't believe all the USA hate in this thread. Yes, it's unfortunate that Leenock cannot attend, but when you look at it, he's really a unique scenario, along with Pokebunny. The MAJORITY of Professional Gamers are over the age of 18.

Yes, it's understandable that people are frustrated that they cannot attend if under the age of 21 (or 18 if you got hired by IPL, or are a 'competitor'), but it's not fair to take it out on a whole nation (the same nation that brings you multiple fan-favorite pro's, MLG, NASL, etc.). I think it was very professional of the casinos to work around the 21+ age limit for Staff and Players, but going any lower than that can leave them in a lot of legal trouble if something goes wrong.


There are a lot of up and coming interesting players who aren't quite yet 18 at least in Korea.

But yeah, don't get any of the USA hate. I always thought it was IPL shooting themselves in the foot by putting it in a casino which required them to set an age limit anyway, but it seemed fine until someone who indeed is a young star couldn't make it. Now it seems silly again =/

Actually I blame the hotel if anything. Silly hotel =/


Well the thing of it is, it's kinda like a minor being caught drinking at a bar, he kid drinking is in trouble but the bar is fucked. You exacerbate that by the law being he can't even physically touch a gaming machine/table and it presents a very real legal concern.
Carrilord has arrived.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
October 01 2011 07:10 GMT
#223
What has Inori done/ where can I see games of his?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
attentioN.
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany18 Posts
October 01 2011 10:33 GMT
#224
On September 30 2011 20:52 TotalBiscuit wrote:
God the US is retarded when it comes to it's laws.


you're so right sir !
EaryKing
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria158 Posts
October 01 2011 16:25 GMT
#225
you gotta send theBest !!! Cause he's the best !!! Sad that leenock is unable to go.
"You shouldn't trust your feeling sometimes. Remember Emperor had a feeling that Luke Skywalker would turn to the darkside.
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
October 01 2011 16:31 GMT
#226
LEENOCK TO MLG!!
So, so sick.
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
October 01 2011 18:14 GMT
#227
On October 01 2011 06:31 Dknight wrote:
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On September 30 2011 20:52 deadjawa wrote:
On September 30 2011 13:58 Alex.IGN wrote:
On September 30 2011 13:56 FryktSkyene wrote:
On September 30 2011 13:43 Alex.IGN wrote:
On September 30 2011 13:40 FryktSkyene wrote:
You've got to be kidding me....He can't go because they are afraid he might touch a table.



It's unfortunately a very real thing that involves a heavy penalty from the gaming commission and goes on the hotel's track record.


Next IPL is going to be at a non-age restricted place I assume?


While I cannot guarantee that, that is one of our goals, yes.

Well, wait a second. One of the reasons I bought a 100 dollar ticket to IPL was precisely because it is age restricted. Drinks in the venue, gambling on site, and a more likeminded crowd are some of the advantages for me. I understand not wanting restrictions on the players, but keep in mind the advantages of having ipl at an adult venue.


I couldn't agree more. While I unfortunately can't make it due to grad school, the location itself was almost enough to convince me to go. The best times I've had at BW events (BlizzCon, WWI, and now for SC2 Barcraft), were all at adult venues.


Exactly. Being at an adult venue is a big draw for those of us that are over 21. TBH age restricted events/locations are where most of my social life has been spent since I turned 21 (taking out just going somewhere to eat). It's just more fun.
Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
October 02 2011 02:22 GMT
#228
Awww it's such a shame Leenock won't be able to go to IPL 3 because he's too young, really sucks for younger players trying to get deeper into the scene. I'm glad he's going to MLG though, can't wait to see his sexy face on stage.
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
October 02 2011 22:46 GMT
#229
On October 01 2011 08:31 ENM_Alexb wrote:
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On October 01 2011 02:16 crystyxn wrote:
LEENOCK HWAITING YAY


LEENOCK HWA- err...waiting....to turn 18


LMAO. You sir, are very clever, that was the funniest post I've seen in a while.

Can't they just you know...tell Leenock that it's illegal for him to touch any of the machines? Wouldn't that have worked? Why is Stephano fine but Leenock isn't? Isn't it just as illegal for Stephano to touch one of the machines? I cannot believe that there was no workaround for this. Leenock is screwed out of a possible $100,000 cash prize, and instead is competing for a much, much smaller prize pool at MLG Providence. I hope the next IPL can find a way around this for the players, if they hold it in an age-restricted venue again.

Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 03 2011 03:41 GMT
#230
On October 03 2011 07:46 suspiciousbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 08:31 ENM_Alexb wrote:
On October 01 2011 02:16 crystyxn wrote:
LEENOCK HWAITING YAY


LEENOCK HWA- err...waiting....to turn 18


LMAO. You sir, are very clever, that was the funniest post I've seen in a while.

Can't they just you know...tell Leenock that it's illegal for him to touch any of the machines? Wouldn't that have worked? Why is Stephano fine but Leenock isn't? Isn't it just as illegal for Stephano to touch one of the machines? I cannot believe that there was no workaround for this. Leenock is screwed out of a possible $100,000 cash prize, and instead is competing for a much, much smaller prize pool at MLG Providence. I hope the next IPL can find a way around this for the players, if they hold it in an age-restricted venue again.



It's the result of the interaction between "Age of Majority" rules and Liability. This is true anywhere that Gambling is sanctioned. So, that's really not even specific to casino there.
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
October 04 2011 14:26 GMT
#231
On October 01 2011 06:23 VirgilSC2 wrote:
I really can't believe all the USA hate in this thread. Yes, it's unfortunate that Leenock cannot attend, but when you look at it, he's really a unique scenario, along with Pokebunny. The MAJORITY of Professional Gamers are over the age of 18.

Yes, it's understandable that people are frustrated that they cannot attend if under the age of 21 (or 18 if you got hired by IPL, or are a 'competitor'), but it's not fair to take it out on a whole nation (the same nation that brings you multiple fan-favorite pro's, MLG, NASL, etc.). I think it was very professional of the casinos to work around the 21+ age limit for Staff and Players, but going any lower than that can leave them in a lot of legal trouble if something goes wrong.



Just want to throw out there that many Americans hated on France with the Stephano situation because by french laws stephano did nothing wrong.

People always hate on countries when it comes to laws.
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