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Are you connected to any shared network, home router, apartment/building router/workgroup etc?
Second, you mentioned you installed security essentials, have you tried using and installing other third party antivirus software if that could remedy it? Security essentials is an ok scanner but it has limitations for me, so I opt to update it but have it turned off because I have a third party antivirus.
What version of windows are you using also? I know it might be unlikely but do you use remote desktop feature of windows? Is it enabled?
If you are open to it also, you could just look at installing Zone Alarm (I know there is a free firewall version only). At least you know which software is requesting internet access (incoming and outgoing).
Hope we can at least try and help you. But I doubt its a vulnerability in sc2 since you are (so far) the only one experiencing it. Perhaps it is also possible of a hardware conflict, do you install drivers for your mouse and keyboard? Have you also tried swapping it out with "regular" mouse and keyboard?
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On September 23 2011 18:43 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I imagine there would be significantly more people infected by the virus if it manifested through SC2. If you reformat again, restrict your websurfing to known sites like TL/youtube/facebook.
A virus exceedingly rarely comes from an official program, and it would never target the same person again and again while ignoring so many others. PEBCAK applies in most cases with a virus. I wasnt suggesting that the virus was a part of starcraft 2 or in my disk or anything, i was suggesting that possibly their was an exploit through starcraft 2 that allowed somebody or something to inject a virus into my system. Seems unlikely though ,but its not official programs havent had holes before that allowed exploitation (java/ flash) Thanks for all the help guys, after it happened today i just did a system restore and its fine now (im sick of doing full formats and i just did one yesterday and usually its fine for at least a few days after a system restore) Im probably just going to avoid playing starcraft 2 for a while (unfortunately) id prefer to not play and not deal with these issues though.
Did you make any changes to the language/region settings? You should check those before reinstalling. They will cause your keyboard to appear this way even when you restart
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On September 23 2011 18:39 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:37 cheesemaster wrote:On September 23 2011 18:34 TheAmazombie wrote:On September 23 2011 18:26 cheesemaster wrote:On September 23 2011 18:15 grs wrote:
I have read your first thread. There is some conflict in your hardware or drivers (maybe mouse and/or keyboard). Try switching some equipment. This is no virus.
Edit: Should go into tech support I guess. Even if it still persists after unpluggin both my mouse and my keyboard? Yes, because the drivers are installed whether or not the keyboard is still plugged in. Are you reformatting as well when you reimage or are you pulling from a backup and/or system restore? After reading, as a problem solver I would still have to think hardware like mouse and keyboard first. To be sure, what I would do it reformat and reimage so you are completely clean. Then use a completely different keyboard and mouse, something generic that came with the PC or something like that, simple, then reDL and install the client from battle.net without installing anything else. If the issue still occurs, it has to be a PC issue because everything is clean. If it were a virus we would have heard more from it now. If you are getting viruses or malware, then I cannot believe it from SC2. If you fresh format and fresh install and still get problems, there is no real way it is a virus unless, like I said before, one of the viruses that get to BIOS, but those are so rare. Also, hell, flash your BIOS before you reformat. That will clean that up if that is the problem. Sorry I can't help more without actually seeing the machine and fiddling with it. I am doing a full reformat, where i lose everything and have to reinstall each program etc. Which websites do you frequent? Do you install or download any other software? The thing that I am interested in is that it takes some time before it happens again. Why would it take a week and a half if it came through SC2? If it came through SC2 it should crop up the first time you use it. I am willing to bet you are getting it from some other place. EDIT: What antivirus do you use? Does it have active protection? Even if it does end up being a hardware issue, the fact that you get SEVERAL viruses in the span of a couple of weeks is extremely alarming.
I frequent only a handful of sites, a few streaming sites, vidxden, icefilms, megavideo megaupload.
Aside from that just giantbomb gamespot teamliquid and then google searches for random things im interested in wich usually leads me to Wikipedia.
Especially after this last one, i didnt visit any streaming sites.
Also there is a couple of times the virus software was able to delete the virus and it stopped right away wich lead me to beleive it probably was a virus. Sigh could have been a coincidence though since after that i usually restart =/
I use microsoft essential security, it has similair security ratings to AVG, kaspersky.
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On September 23 2011 18:13 TheAmazombie wrote:
It sounds more like there is a problem with your hardware, graphics related. It would also be possible for one of those rare bios viruses, but that is unlikely. Once you reformat and reimage, the virus is gone unless you DL it again.
I am an IT tech and when this sort of things happens, you have to assume hardware next before viruses, especially if this "virus" has been out for awhile but still does not turn up in scans. It could also be a bug in your install of SC. Have you tried DLing a new version of the client?
EDIT: With your last update...what type of keyboard do you use? Could it be a fucked up driver or program associated with it that is erroring with SC2?
I have a hard time understand how it can be graphics related, honestly. It could be hardware related though, that is true. Maybe your USB-hub is fucked up and thats why it's acting like that. My USB-hub is broken in my computer, so i can only use two of my eight USB ports, otherwise my mouse and keyboard start to go nuts and turn on and off every 15-30 seconds.
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On September 23 2011 18:46 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Are you connected to any shared network, home router, apartment/building router/workgroup etc?
Second, you mentioned you installed security essentials, have you tried using and installing other third party antivirus software if that could remedy it? Security essentials is an ok scanner but it has limitations for me, so I opt to update it but have it turned off because I have a third party antivirus.
What version of windows are you using also? I know it might be unlikely but do you use remote desktop feature of windows? Is it enabled?
If you are open to it also, you could just look at installing Zone Alarm (I know there is a free firewall version only). At least you know which software is requesting internet access (incoming and outgoing).
Hope we can at least try and help you. But I doubt its a vulnerability in sc2 since you are (so far) the only one experiencing it. Perhaps it is also possible of a hardware conflict, do you install drivers for your mouse and keyboard? Have you also tried swapping it out with "regular" mouse and keyboard?
I am using windows 7, and i was using Kaspersky the first time it happened and have since switched to security essentials as well as used AVG sometime in between this whole disaster.
I dont think their is any remote desktop activated.
Its just really wierd to me how it only ever happens when playing starcraft 2 and im actually in a game. I have never had this problem with any other game or program before =/
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On September 23 2011 18:49 ineq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:13 TheAmazombie wrote:
It sounds more like there is a problem with your hardware, graphics related. It would also be possible for one of those rare bios viruses, but that is unlikely. Once you reformat and reimage, the virus is gone unless you DL it again.
I am an IT tech and when this sort of things happens, you have to assume hardware next before viruses, especially if this "virus" has been out for awhile but still does not turn up in scans. It could also be a bug in your install of SC. Have you tried DLing a new version of the client?
EDIT: With your last update...what type of keyboard do you use? Could it be a fucked up driver or program associated with it that is erroring with SC2? I have a hard time understand how it can be graphics related, honestly. It could be hardware related though, that is true. Maybe your USB-hub is fucked up and thats why it's acting like that. My USB-hub is broken in my computer, so i can only use two of my eight USB ports, otherwise my mouse and keyboard start to go nuts and turn on and off every 15-30 seconds.
It works fine 99% of the time, the only time it starts acting funny is when i am in a game of starcraft and then it will start typing and clicking on its own. Then after a restart it may (or not) stop for a bit and then it will continue (out of game and in game) but it only ever starts when im in a game of starcraft.
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It might be a Bios virus...depends on what setup you have(motherboard/type of bios). I didn't read everything here but im sure that sc2 didn't give u a virus  . It might be your drivers/sites u visit/bios virus/etc..
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On September 23 2011 18:53 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:49 ineq wrote:On September 23 2011 18:13 TheAmazombie wrote:
It sounds more like there is a problem with your hardware, graphics related. It would also be possible for one of those rare bios viruses, but that is unlikely. Once you reformat and reimage, the virus is gone unless you DL it again.
I am an IT tech and when this sort of things happens, you have to assume hardware next before viruses, especially if this "virus" has been out for awhile but still does not turn up in scans. It could also be a bug in your install of SC. Have you tried DLing a new version of the client?
EDIT: With your last update...what type of keyboard do you use? Could it be a fucked up driver or program associated with it that is erroring with SC2? I have a hard time understand how it can be graphics related, honestly. It could be hardware related though, that is true. Maybe your USB-hub is fucked up and thats why it's acting like that. My USB-hub is broken in my computer, so i can only use two of my eight USB ports, otherwise my mouse and keyboard start to go nuts and turn on and off every 15-30 seconds. It works fine 99% of the time, the only time it starts acting funny is when i am in a game of starcraft and then it will start typing and clicking on its own. Then after a restart it may (or not) stop for a bit and then it will continue (out of game and in game) but it only ever starts when im in a game of starcraft.
that sounds like a driver issue to me. i highly doubt its Virus and just because a virus scanner says it found something doesnt means it has to be a virus.
If its drivers it could either be your Razer driver or your USB drivers in general.
maybe it has something to do with the APM light stuff that messes up your gear in some cases.
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Something like that happened to me, just yesterday. Keyboard went crazy - windows started repeatedly play "plug-in, plug-off" sound.. Dunno if it is a virus. However, i gotta say it was also the first thing that ive had in my mind while i was experiencing it.. Hope its only some glitch. Otherwise next MLG/GSL can get tricky heh ^^
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Do you live in a dorm or something? or alone with your parents?
Because if you live in a dorm, maybe someone is just fucking with you and connecting your pc to theirs and they just fuck around with shit.
Otherwise the problem is with your keyboard and mouse. Go to walmart and buy some cheap shit. If it still happens then its not your keyboard and mouse, and you know where to check
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On September 23 2011 18:43 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:34 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I imagine there would be significantly more people infected by the virus if it manifested through SC2. If you reformat again, restrict your websurfing to known sites like TL/youtube/facebook.
A virus exceedingly rarely comes from an official program, and it would never target the same person again and again while ignoring so many others. PEBCAK applies in most cases with a virus. I wasnt suggesting that the virus was a part of starcraft 2 or in my disk or anything, i was suggesting that possibly their was an exploit through starcraft 2 that allowed somebody or something to inject a virus into my system. Seems unlikely though ,but its not official programs havent had holes before that allowed exploitation (java/ flash) Thanks for all the help guys, after it happened today i just did a system restore and its fine now (im sick of doing full formats and i just did one yesterday and usually its fine for at least a few days after a system restore) Im probably just going to avoid playing starcraft 2 for a while (unfortunately) id prefer to not play and not deal with these issues though.
It would be sad to hear that you'd rather opt to not use the softwares you would like just because of this. I think the answer is really to try changing out hardware. I'm not suggesting buying another Razer or Steelseries KB and Mouse set, maybe you have standard regular USB mouse and keyboard lying around that you could test with.
Also you mentioned in the previous post it was a laptop, same system right?
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id suggest to just get the keyboard and mouse from a friend and try it again cuz this really sounds like it has something to do with your hardware and not with a virus or somthing like that
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On September 23 2011 18:51 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:46 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Are you connected to any shared network, home router, apartment/building router/workgroup etc?
Second, you mentioned you installed security essentials, have you tried using and installing other third party antivirus software if that could remedy it? Security essentials is an ok scanner but it has limitations for me, so I opt to update it but have it turned off because I have a third party antivirus.
What version of windows are you using also? I know it might be unlikely but do you use remote desktop feature of windows? Is it enabled?
If you are open to it also, you could just look at installing Zone Alarm (I know there is a free firewall version only). At least you know which software is requesting internet access (incoming and outgoing).
Hope we can at least try and help you. But I doubt its a vulnerability in sc2 since you are (so far) the only one experiencing it. Perhaps it is also possible of a hardware conflict, do you install drivers for your mouse and keyboard? Have you also tried swapping it out with "regular" mouse and keyboard? I am using windows 7, and i was using Kaspersky the first time it happened and have since switched to security essentials as well as used AVG sometime in between this whole disaster. I dont think their is any remote desktop activated. Its just really wierd to me how it only ever happens when playing starcraft 2 and im actually in a game. I have never had this problem with any other game or program before =/
Hmm, I see.
Well, is Starcraft installed on the same drive as you windows/primary drive? Or is it installed in a local partition not in the same drive as Windows? Reason I ask is, if in case it is a clear format of the drive for windows, it might be that if it is in fact a possible infection originating not from the clean install of windows, but rather from an unformated data/backup parition of your drive.
I'm saying its possible but not that it's the answer.
Also, are you on a network/workgroup? Are their other users connected in the same network or workgroup? Are you using an admin account only or a guest account when you use the computer?
But it might really be just hardware, as far as I can tell. Really think you should just try using a regular usb mouse or keyboard for the meantime and see if it works.
Also, once it has started does a hard reset not cure it?
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On September 23 2011 19:01 OptimusYale wrote:
Do you live in a dorm or something? or alone with your parents?
Because if you live in a dorm, maybe someone is just fucking with you and connecting your pc to theirs and they just fuck around with shit.
Otherwise the problem is with your keyboard and mouse. Go to walmart and buy some cheap shit. If it still happens then its not your keyboard and mouse, and you know where to check
I live in a 2 bedroom apartment with my roommate, hes never had any problems.
Im doing a virus scan right now though guys, it should give some insight into whether this is actually a virus or not. All the other times this has happened there was some opportunity for me to aquire a virus and the fact that it was starting up only while playing starcraft could have been a coincidence. This time i have visited basically no sites only google teamliquid (not even any streaming sites yet) and the only thing i installed were the windows updates and starcraft 2.
If i do have a virus again then i would assume one of these 2 things. Possibly their is a security hole in starcraft 2 (maybe a port that opens or something) and their is a computer / bot that is targetting this port / injecting the virus. (I used to be a script kiddy and look for port vulnerabilities on friends computers then mess around with their backgrounds/ control their mice) or somehow i have a virus on my ram , or a bios virus as someone else said.
If i find the virus again though , im really think it must have something to do with starcraft, i dont see why these problems would only ever manifest while playing starcraft and only when im playing a quick match game. However far fetched it seems , i think its just as far fetched that it would be a driver or hardware problem that only manifested itself while playing starcraft
Seems pretty peculiar either way.
Also i am on a network with my laptop (wich is rarely ever even on, and has been formatted since this has happened as well) and my roomates computer which is brand new i just put it together and installed windows in the past 2 weeks.
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On September 23 2011 19:12 17Sphynx17 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 18:51 cheesemaster wrote:On September 23 2011 18:46 17Sphynx17 wrote:
Are you connected to any shared network, home router, apartment/building router/workgroup etc?
Second, you mentioned you installed security essentials, have you tried using and installing other third party antivirus software if that could remedy it? Security essentials is an ok scanner but it has limitations for me, so I opt to update it but have it turned off because I have a third party antivirus.
What version of windows are you using also? I know it might be unlikely but do you use remote desktop feature of windows? Is it enabled?
If you are open to it also, you could just look at installing Zone Alarm (I know there is a free firewall version only). At least you know which software is requesting internet access (incoming and outgoing).
Hope we can at least try and help you. But I doubt its a vulnerability in sc2 since you are (so far) the only one experiencing it. Perhaps it is also possible of a hardware conflict, do you install drivers for your mouse and keyboard? Have you also tried swapping it out with "regular" mouse and keyboard? I am using windows 7, and i was using Kaspersky the first time it happened and have since switched to security essentials as well as used AVG sometime in between this whole disaster. I dont think their is any remote desktop activated. Its just really wierd to me how it only ever happens when playing starcraft 2 and im actually in a game. I have never had this problem with any other game or program before =/ Hmm, I see. Well, is Starcraft installed on the same drive as you windows/primary drive? Or is it installed in a local partition not in the same drive as Windows? Reason I ask is, if in case it is a clear format of the drive for windows, it might be that if it is in fact a possible infection originating not from the clean install of windows, but rather from an unformated data/backup parition of your drive. I'm saying its possible but not that it's the answer. Also, are you on a network/workgroup? Are their other users connected in the same network or workgroup? Are you using an admin account only or a guest account when you use the computer? But it might really be just hardware, as far as I can tell. Really think you should just try using a regular usb mouse or keyboard for the meantime and see if it works. Also, once it has started does a hard reset not cure it?
No its all on one drive/ partition , ive literally formatted everything though anyways including my 2 tb external, but the past 2 times i havent even had my external connected including this time.
Hopefully this virus scan will give some insight on the problem. I use an admin account and its the only account on my computer and im the only one that uses it. The clean install of windows that i use is from the original window 7 upgrade disk as well so there is no chance that my windows install is infected.
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Try downloading Malwarebytes. It's what I use to scan my PC. I never liked the built in Microsoft software.
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