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On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old..
You can't live with someone like that.
Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating.
Community Headline
"Major slaps TSL coach"
Kid should do some research.
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Seems like he was just accepted as a practice partner with the chance/opportunity to become a full-time member depending on how he acts and performs. There's no way TSL just accepted him into their house just for him to get "free" training. Even Coach Lee was saying (in the Artosis interview) that everyone who enters TSL becomes a strong player, and its regrettable that they leave afterwards. Seems like he wants to develop Juan and make him a TSL player.
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On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous.
^Prolly not 18 yet.
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On September 21 2011 23:12 radiantshadow92 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2011 23:08 thepuppyassassin wrote:On September 21 2011 23:05 radiantshadow92 wrote:On September 21 2011 23:02 thepuppyassassin wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Major has the patience, self-restraint, and discipline of a 3 year old..
You can't live with someone like that.
Watch.. once homesickness and the cramped living conditions start to chip away at him.. there's gonna be an international incident.. and I'm not exaggerating.
Community Headline
"Major slaps TSL coach" You think a player like Major, someone who has been playing his entire childhood JUST to be as good as the Koreans, is going to get bothered by cramped living conditions? LOL His past behavior suggests.... hell yeah! if anything his past behaviors show he just wants to play -.-
As long as you pay him more than he's worth.
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I dont think he deserves this opportunity after being suche an asshole and fucking up quite a lot.
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I am a fan of Terran's play but goddamn if he fucks this up.....
He couldn't possibly fuck it up though, Artosis has given him everything he's ever wanted effectively.
Please Juan, for the sake of your fans, stay on the straight and narrow from now on.
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On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote:On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him].
he brought up a legit example of the sea tourneys rules actually making no sense, and them bending over to get certain famous players in to boost their viewership, so he thought they didnt take the sea only rule seriously. like ive said 100 times, people are just being unfairly harsh on him where other players would be forgiven.
but because its already been decided hes a bad guy, people cling to the hate and stack it up making him look like a bad guy, when hes no worse than others who are forgiven and forgotten instantly.
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On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote:On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him].
and idra and destiny does tons of bm actions to people and everyone loves them. slamming headsets and calling people derogatory names. 15k viewers they love bm.
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On September 22 2011 21:32 momonami5 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote:On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote:On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him]. and idra and destiny does tons of bm actions to people and everyone loves them. slamming headsets and calling people derogatory names. 15k viewers they love bm.
yeah but they dont cheat in official tournaments. they dont BM the people hosting those events after being caught. they dont cause trouble to the people around them. I highly doubt Idra treats the EG clan badly. In fact, Ive heard that their BM reputation is only a product of their in-game reactions to losses and that theyre actually really nice in real life. Majors immaturity extends outside to the real world
I also wouldnt say everyone loves them either. a lot of people hate on Idra and Destiny for those two things.
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On September 22 2011 21:35 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 21:32 momonami5 wrote:On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote:On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote:On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him]. and idra and destiny does tons of bm actions to people and everyone loves them. slamming headsets and calling people derogatory names. 15k viewers they love bm. yeah but they dont cheat in official tournaments. they dont BM the people hosting those events after being caught. they dont cause trouble to the people around them. I highly doubt Idra treats the EG clan badly. In fact, Ive heard that their BM reputation is only a product of their in-game reactions to losses and that theyre actually really nice in real life. Majors immaturity extends outside to the real world I also wouldnt say everyone loves them either. a lot of people hate on Idra and Destiny for those two things.
your one of those types that just like to try and hurt and bring people down because you yourself is not as successful as you want to be, so you find it better to try an dbring others down. Reminds of ppl who watch E entertainment and read tabloids and try to bash celebs.
Major is going to tsl, and he probably gonna get good results. wether you like it or not you contine on your sharade and try to tear major down but your not gonna get anything done. Your just wasting your own life away.
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On September 22 2011 22:35 momonami5 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 21:35 Supamang wrote:On September 22 2011 21:32 momonami5 wrote:On September 22 2011 07:49 nanaoei wrote:On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again. On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote:On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote:On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:
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Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him. This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet) He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year. there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to. so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect k i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself. majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content. i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word. and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him]. and idra and destiny does tons of bm actions to people and everyone loves them. slamming headsets and calling people derogatory names. 15k viewers they love bm. yeah but they dont cheat in official tournaments. they dont BM the people hosting those events after being caught. they dont cause trouble to the people around them. I highly doubt Idra treats the EG clan badly. In fact, Ive heard that their BM reputation is only a product of their in-game reactions to losses and that theyre actually really nice in real life. Majors immaturity extends outside to the real world I also wouldnt say everyone loves them either. a lot of people hate on Idra and Destiny for those two things. your one of those types that just like to try and hurt and bring people down because you yourself is not as successful as you want to be, so you find it better to try an dbring others down. Reminds of ppl who watch E entertainment and read tabloids and try to bash celebs. Major is going to tsl, and he probably gonna get good results. wether you like it or not you contine on your sharade and try to tear major down but your not gonna get anything done. Your just wasting your own life away. this thread is getting fired up... Artosis has cast the die. Let it roll and settle. Then history will be written. That is all.
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This will be a HUGE opportunity for Major, but I am still heavily concerned about his personality issues... I wish him the best of luck though!
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aside from trying to defend the analogies of a couple other people,
all i was pretty much saying, is that as fan of the game and of so many of the pro. players, whatever i've read of majOr has given me the yellow flag of 'uncool'. that's pretty much it.
equally so, i continue reading about idra, and of destiny to a greater or lesser extent.
it might be ridiculous to say this, but since what.... 80%+ of us don't know any of those players on a personal basis, nothing is entirely accurate.
for a fan like me, everything you read about a player in community news is pretty much all you get.
d.apollo posts about sixjax releasing majOr, and..... what are you supposed to think ?
'uncool' in that case, is euphemism for 'pretty damn bad'.
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Can't resist:
Artosis' relationship with MajOr is like Qui-Gon / Obi-wan with Anakin Skywalker.
Huge potential. But clearly something wrong with him.
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If prefer to call Major Anakin the hutt...
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you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy EG, not join them!!
2 days later
you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy complexity, not join them!!
2 days later
you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to ....etc
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On September 23 2011 03:39 QTIP. wrote:
Can't resist:
Artosis' relationship with MajOr is like Qui-Gon / Obi-wan with Anakin Skywalker.
Huge potential. But clearly something wrong with him.
No legs? (mind would be blown)
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On September 23 2011 06:48 Diglett wrote:
you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy EG, not join them!!
2 days later
you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to destroy complexity, not join them!!
2 days later
you were the chosen one!! you were supposed to ....etc
This can only end one way. Major has to duel with Artosis on a foreign planet and lose, getting thrown into a lava river in the process. He has to get all his limbs burned off.
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On September 22 2011 17:14 crocodile wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live? By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game. Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous. ^Prolly not 18 yet.
I lol'd.
I agree with both.
18 year olds who go through boot camp and everything else that comes after who find themselves on the field of battle... not kids.
Every other 18 year old in the world = kid.
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On September 23 2011 06:52 Utinni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 03:39 QTIP. wrote:
Can't resist:
Artosis' relationship with MajOr is like Qui-Gon / Obi-wan with Anakin Skywalker.
Huge potential. But clearly something wrong with him. No legs? (mind would be blown)
Both of them
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