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Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
September 21 2011 22:04 GMT
#581
I recognize how far Artosis is sticking out his neck for Major's neck and can appreciate the former's earnestness. While I don't think this 'project' is doomed to failure, I sure hope Artosis doesn't get burned by Major's sensibilities, or lack thereof. Best of luck to them both, and TSL as well.
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
September 21 2011 22:06 GMT
#582
On September 22 2011 06:55 aycheff wrote:
Maybe someone can fill me in cause I've obviously missed something, but what has Major done that has got him such a negative rep among some people?


Most recently? I guess lied directly to the tournament director and smurfed to get into a regional based tournament.
Less money for casters, more money for players.
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
September 21 2011 22:13 GMT
#583
On September 22 2011 06:55 aycheff wrote:
Maybe someone can fill me in cause I've obviously missed something, but what has Major done that has got him such a negative rep among some people?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=262397
Read Statement #2 from sixjax
FluXen
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada210 Posts
September 21 2011 22:17 GMT
#584
I am starting to like MajOr now:D gl to him
"Rise and Rise Again till Lamb become Lion"-Robin Hood
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
September 21 2011 22:29 GMT
#585
hahaha killer is such an awesome guy
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
pewpew444
Profile Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
September 21 2011 22:32 GMT
#586
The first two players (Ret and Tyler) that Artosis got to come out to Korea turned out to be great. Lets hope that MajOr continues this trend. I also feel that the korean maturity and politeness will rub off on Juan and he hopefully mature (I don't care about bm).
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 21 2011 22:36 GMT
#587
I know Major is not dumb, but at 2:49 that exchange sounded straight out of Rainman.
"Having fun so far Juan?"
"Yeah, I'm having fun."
"Yeah?"
"Yeah."
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
September 21 2011 22:38 GMT
#588
On September 22 2011 07:36 Beef Noodles wrote:
I know Major is not dumb, but at 2:49 that exchange sounded straight out of Rainman.
"Having fun so far Juan?"
"Yeah, I'm having fun."
"Yeah?"
"Yeah."


His native language isn't English.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
September 21 2011 22:39 GMT
#589
On September 22 2011 07:38 TERRANLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 07:36 Beef Noodles wrote:
I know Major is not dumb, but at 2:49 that exchange sounded straight out of Rainman.
"Having fun so far Juan?"
"Yeah, I'm having fun."
"Yeah?"
"Yeah."


His native language isn't English.

I know. I'm not making fun of him. It was just really funny.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
September 21 2011 22:49 GMT
#590
On September 22 2011 05:24 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:23 Dfgj wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:
On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK

EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well.


If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all.


Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live?

By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game.

Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous.


when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story

No, they do not. This is obvious, and it was never claimed otherwise. Your point?


you're point is that 18 year olds are trusted to use deadly force

my point is that they arent

im sure you can find an example of an active serviceman who's only 18, but they have probably been in some kind of army system for 3+ years to get there. this magical line of turning 18 and actually like an old man isnt fair on people.

if you think 18 is a mature age i would argue that you dont know many 18 year olds

Who cares about this whole army issue? Were talking about a professional player being mature in a professional setting, it has nothing to do with when someone gets to hold a loaded gun.

Why do people make excuses for majors behavior? Leenock is 16/17 and he doesnt cause this much trouble for his managers. There are tons of young professional SC2 players and they arent total assholes even though "theyre still just kids". Its like people are setting Major as the standard for how kids should act. Stop making excuses for his immaturity
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 22:54:36
September 21 2011 22:49 GMT
#591
On September 22 2011 05:20 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 05:13 Dfgj wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:34 s4life wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK

EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well.


If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all.


Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live?

By 18, we're in the army and training to wield lethal force. You're arguing that 18 year olds can't be expected to act properly over a video game.

Claiming that 18 is still a 'kid' and using that as an excuse is absolutely ridiculous.


when you join the army at 18 they give you a loaded gun first day true story

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:
On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK

EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well.


If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all.

Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time.

Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation.


actually its been proven that adolescent brain chemistry makes it more difficult to be rational, try again.

Show nested quote +
On September 22 2011 04:09 nath wrote:
On September 22 2011 03:48 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On September 22 2011 02:54 nath wrote:
On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:
On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character.


Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks


No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character.

Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance.
  • Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.

  • Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.

  • Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.

I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him.


This is what people thought about idrA too in Broodwar, when he went to Korea to be a B-teamer on CJ entus and disappear into obscurity...only to come back in sc2 with much greater community support and the skills of a champion (not the mindset yet)


He didn't disappear into obscurity, he used the skills he gained in korea to win 7 tournaments and get 2 more top 4 finishes in 2009. For the record, there were only 12 foreigner tournaments that year.

there was a long period of time where he still didn't win foreigner tournaments even after being in korea for a year+ and everyone expected him to.


so what you're saying is people who hadnt been to korea, let alone lived in a pro house, decided how long it takes for the training to take effect

k



i really think you're simply pulling stuff slightly out of context for yourself.

majOr has done some uncool stuff leading up til' now. one example would be, 'mouthing off' to a SEA tournament admin to his heart's content.
i think a lot of people can put this into their own personal perspective, and say that 9 times out of 10, they would not have done the same in any way----perhaps this is where most people float that maturity word.

and yeah, there are people everywhere and at juan's age who have crazy expectations of them, and for themselves. it's not that bad to compare that to what majOr's done in the limelight, because this -is- his job

on another note, i don't remember anywhere where he apologized for anything [that was considered unprofessional of him].
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elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
September 21 2011 23:05 GMT
#592
LOL 06:11 the korean IdrA?
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
September 21 2011 23:06 GMT
#593
Cool, grats to Major
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#594
Major is young. He has time to improve both his game and his bouts of irrational behavior. Maybe IdrA can teach him to channel his negative energies into fan-creating bm rather than his current fan-destroying bm -.- I honestly love his play, and really appreciate Artosis taking him under his wing.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
September 21 2011 23:08 GMT
#595
On September 22 2011 04:57 RusHXceL wrote:
OP is wrong.



He did not JOIN TSL.


Oo..... oh oh..... well good. I don't think TSL would've appreciated a guy like him
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WardenSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada210 Posts
September 21 2011 23:30 GMT
#596
Major seems to have utmost respect for the Korean players - I only wish he held that kind of standard to EU and NA players lol. With that being said, he's an awesome player and I hope to see him compete in GSL!!!
Magorical
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia23 Posts
September 22 2011 00:16 GMT
#597
This video is awesome! I hope maj0r much success in Korea and I hope he can overcome some of the personal issues he has been having recently to be a successful team member.
'Just remember that you can beat your opponent just by having a lot of shit' - Day[9]
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
September 22 2011 00:46 GMT
#598
On September 22 2011 07:32 pewpew444 wrote:
The first two players (Ret and Tyler) that Artosis got to come out to Korea turned out to be great. Lets hope that MajOr continues this trend. I also feel that the korean maturity and politeness will rub off on Juan and he hopefully mature (I don't care about bm).


Tyler and Ret came over after major accomplishments. Ret went over after winning Dreamhack and Tyler went after his great WCG USA runs. Seems like Major finally has opportunity after winning the Latin America's Blizzcon Invitational.
Yes Juan has a very bad past with tournys and is incredibly bm. However, he is now in the position he has dreamed about for years, training and practicing in Korea. I do believe out of his own self-interest that he will succeed, improve and mature as a person and player. Best of luck to you Juan, don't let Artosis down for sticking up for you all these years.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 01:14:28
September 22 2011 01:13 GMT
#599
Could someone explain if he's going to be a part of the TSL team (as in use their tags, wear their jerseys when competing), or is he just going to be practicing in the TSL house.

Asking just cuz the title used to say MajOr joins TSL or something like that, and doesn't anymore.


Edit: srry, found my answer
Rorra
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1066 Posts
September 22 2011 02:56 GMT
#600
Time to see if Artosis's faith in major pays off I suppose, Major is now a foreigner representing the foreigner scene to the Koreans now, I hope that doesn't turn out to be a terrible terrible thing.
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