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On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well.
If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all.
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On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all.
Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time.
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On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time.
You don't find it an issue if someone doesn't mature despite being around an environment where they know they have to be more mature than they are?
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Good luck to Major in Korea. I agree with Artosis and the potential that he sees in this player.
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Well now that he's headed to SK he finally got what he wanted. So maybe now he won't disrespect everyone around him?
GL MajOr
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On February 31 2012 04:18 babo213 wrote:
You don't find it an issue if someone doesn't mature despite being around an environment where they know they have to be more mature than they are?
BM != immaturity.
Some people are just way more straighforward and not afraid to speak their mind, and yes, they insult and shit. Being mature is a whole different thing.
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"No problem. I take care of you." Man I love Koreans.
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On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time.
Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation.
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he will be crushing some faces in a couple of months
more foreigners need to do the same before we fall behind
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On September 22 2011 04:22 TheChostoProject wrote:Show nested quote +On February 31 2012 04:18 babo213 wrote:
You don't find it an issue if someone doesn't mature despite being around an environment where they know they have to be more mature than they are? BM != immaturity. Some people are just way more straighforward and not afraid to speak their mind, and yes, they insult and shit. Being mature is a whole different thing.
If it was just being BM I doubt the community would be so divided on him.
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On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all.
Uh??? if a person is not mature at friggin 18, you doubt he'll ever mature??? do people marry at 14 where you live?
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On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation.
No, it isn't a decision rofl. Maturity is the physiological and intellectual development of body and mind. It does not take the same amount of time for everyone, but you can't just wake up and "choose" to be mature one day.
Edit: For reference, the prefrontal cortex continues to develop until the age of 25 in many cases. The prefrontal cortex is also key in the decision-making process.
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On September 22 2011 04:34 Enervate wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation. No, it isn't a decision rofl. Maturity is the physiological and intellectual development of body and mind. It does not take the same amount of time for everyone, but you can't just wake up and "choose" to be mature one day.
Maturity is a bunch of chemical reactions really... so is the "decision" you speak of.
Nonetheless, hopefully a regimented atmosphere will help major straighten up.
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On September 22 2011 04:26 0neder wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 04:15 Klyberess wrote:On September 22 2011 04:10 babo213 wrote:On September 22 2011 03:41 hahaimhenry wrote:
i think he'll mature, he's been really frustrated lately cause he hasnt gone to korea yet when he was supposedly told he was by artosis and his ex-team. i think he'll come out strong, i enjoyed his play while he was in NA, and it'll be even better now that he's in SK
EDIT: not to mention he's only 18, he's still a kid and there's a lot he still has to learn, i hope TSL can teach and mentor him well. If he hasn't matured by now I doubt he will in the near future. Using his age is a lame excuse. He's been around the environment long enough that he should have matured by now, but he hasn't at all. Yeah how dare someone take longer to mature than your arbitrarily set time. Maturity isn't some chemical reaction. It is a decision you can make at any age in any situation.
No it's not, maturity comes from experience, more so when it hits you hard.. I really don't know why I am wasting my time countering the wisdom of some 12 year old.. I better stop.
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On September 22 2011 04:22 TheChostoProject wrote:Show nested quote +On February 31 2012 04:18 babo213 wrote:
You don't find it an issue if someone doesn't mature despite being around an environment where they know they have to be more mature than they are? BM != immaturity. Some people are just way more straighforward and not afraid to speak their mind, and yes, they insult and shit. Being mature is a whole different thing.
And Major is not it.
It's not even his bm that has people call him immature and childish, it's his overall behaviour. Being bm and easily agitated is just part of it.
- Lying to his own team because he did not dare to own up to his fault is a sign of immaturity.
- Lying repeatedly to a tournament organiser about his identity in order to cheat his way into a tournament he had no business participating in is a sign of immaturity.
- Not being able to spellcheck his official statement on being dismissed from his team is unprofessional (which, in turn, is a sign of immaturity).
- Hopping from team to team, abusing their goodwill, disregarding agreements and signed contracts is a sign of immaturity.
The list goes on.
If you are honestly arguing that major is not immature after everything he has done in his entire BW and SC2 career... I honestly don't know what to tell you.
I personally wouldn't have given him another chance after seeing him fucking up again and again and again. The train for a successful career with a non-Korean team has probably passed already. These next months in Korea are his last chance to do a complete 180° and clean up his act. That is, if he really wants to have any chance of becoming a professional SC2 gamer.
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Lets see how he does out in Korea....
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On September 22 2011 00:19 Shockk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 00:00 ppshchik wrote:On September 21 2011 21:45 flipstar wrote:
I hope he fails horribly as I truely dislike his character. Fans caring more about one person's character instead of his dedication+ambition pretty much shows why the NA SC2 scene sucks No. Fans caring about character means they want to see decent human beings. That's why TLO is so popular; he may not have shown the best results lately, but he's simply an awesome guy. I wouldn't neccessarily agree with flipstar in actually wishing Major bad, but I share the sentiment about his character. Major is - excuse my french - an immature brat. Simple as that. His whole career is that of a person spoiled beyond salvation by his (undeniable) skill. He has internalized the belief that he is superior to other people in his line of "work" and treats them just like that: with contempt and arrogance. - Some people may argue that skill justifies that. I say it doesn't, I say there's a line that he has crossed a long time ago.
- Some will say that he's still young and will grow up and mature in the future. You know what? I was 14-18 at some point too, and I managed to not be a total jerk at that age, on- and offline. I had no respect or understanding for such people back then and I certainly don't now.
- Others might just blindly hope for a foreign player to rise to korean levels regardless of the character behind it. I'm not sure we really want our "western ambassadors" be infamous for their manners instead of being famous for their prowess.
I realize some - many - people don't agree with this opinion. I accept that; I'm not happy about it, but everyone is entitled to speak his/her mind. But I'm glad I'm not the only one to speak up in this rather large crowd of people cheering for a guy that I'd have ignored or pummeled in the school yard for his behaviour instead of applauding him.
Well said.
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Yay a Mexican in the major leagues of SC  . Hi from Jalisco brother! :D Go MajOr!
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OP is wrong.
He did not JOIN TSL.
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I'm just glad to see all this meaningless hate from random_internet_person. That will make me even happier when Juan succeeds, thanks to his constant effort and massive dedication he has on improving.
Juan's been moving only forward despite all the hate and predictions of this community, and he'll only continue to do so. Go Juan.
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