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Lack of content, flaming (of the French or anyone) and useless posts will be punished. Please keep it from being too inflammatory and keep discussion on-topic. -semioldguy (p.103) Update: Please read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=267506#1 and continue the discussion there. | ||
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nemo14
United States425 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:26 taLbuk wrote: pretty much what any thread involving an American organization will boil down to here on teamliquid True that. This thread is about to turn into a vicious argument over the merits of French and American contract law if TL's history is any judge. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:34 Ym!r wrote: Oh by the way. Is Millenium trying to do the same thing China was doing decades ago ? Trying to grow French esport and feed French esport by himself without opening abroad i dont think so. they just want a french team. | ||
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
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chestnutman
176 Posts
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gulbanana
Australia56 Posts
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Koorb
France266 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:34 Ym!r wrote: Oh by the way. Is Millenium trying to do the same thing China was doing decades ago ? Trying to grow French esport and feed French esport by himself without opening abroad That what I understood from Mille's manager stream tonight, but others French viewers understood it differently. | ||
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Myusen
Germany29 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:33 Sideburn wrote: So true. The butthurt runs deep on these forums. laughed a bit.. thats simply how french ppl are.. silly  | ||
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anGe
Belgium23 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:30 Megiddosc wrote: The contract that Stephano signed with coL is not a CDI. So can we please stop talking about that? The whole "trial period" or whatever, or "withdrawal clause"... all that is for a CDI. Jesus, finally someone brings this up. Because you can't break a CDD. Not if the company doesn't agrees too at least. Although you have a retract time for most of the contracts (at least one week). | ||
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gulbanana
Australia56 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:31 zhurai wrote: Except you're making random comments about french law. therefore you kind of are. Also Hmmm... Really..... you don't have to be french to research french law, although jason lane might disagree. | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:34 gulbanana wrote: did you just accuse me of being a card-carrying communist? like this was freaking 1950 or something? have i posted through a timewarp into the mccarthy hearings? 40 of your 50 posts have been in this thread and you keep whining about labour. And you deny being a communist. That certainly sounds like something a communist would do, doesn't it? | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:36 MightyMaexe wrote: laughed a bit.. thats simply how french ppl are.. silly i think there is a lot of truth in this | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:36 gulbanana wrote: you don't have to be french to research french law, although jason lane might disagree. If by research you mean access wikipedia... | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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ZestyPickle
United States104 Posts
On September 20 2011 07:36 gulbanana wrote: you don't have to be french to research french law, although jason lane might disagree. Still waiting for you to research US law | ||
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Goggalor
United States310 Posts
Millennium and Stephano can bet one thing, they have created many an anti-fan with this dick move. | ||
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TLUtv
Canada18 Posts
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Cyrak
Canada536 Posts
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Pisko.
United States214 Posts
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Chloroplaste
France281 Posts
Millenium said they will send him on all big tournaments all other the world where he can be, There WILL BE Stephano on MLG, IPL etc... They always said they WILL SEND Stephano to KOREA if he wants to train 1or2monthmax or specially if he won a GSL spot ! They also announce about their future Gaming house in Marseille that they have maybe found one but they are looking for answer about the connection and more, and it is a 400m² gaming house ! It will be open to players of other teams to train together and they may do a lan like Homestory Cup =) Millenium is doing a lot to develop Esport in France and in general, They develop cup with their sponsor with top EU players and will develop bigger lans tournament in future (like that one MSI Pro Cup #2 ) Millenium and Stephano FIGHTING !!! | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On September 20 2011 06:54 Koorb wrote: Since there are people who still misundertsand things...: Just to summarize what Lewellys, Millenium's manager, said tonight (Europe timezone) on stream: - There is indeed a signed legal document that binds Stephano and compLexity. Millenium's staff reviewed it, and told Stephano that there were loopholes in the contract, and that it doesn't comply with French labor law. Subsequently, Lewellys and Millenium's staff advised Stephano to ignore it, which he eventually did. - Lewellys stated that he didn't know about coL's intentions before the announcement of the transfer on TL Forum. However, he also said that he doesn't know if other people in Millenium's staff were in contact with coL or not. - He doesn't plan on answering to coL's mails. He also said that he is confident that Millenium is covered by French law on that matters. - Contrary to Cedrix's (Millenium boss) statement in the OP, there were no "disorienting actions" from coL. The so-called disorienting actions was that they signed the contract during the night (in European time zone), and that Stephano is only 18. - Lewellys stated that he doesn't plan on sending Stephano to lots of international event, and that he will focus on French events. Since there are people who post not-so-true facts.... Here is what we heard. Which is not so far, but not so close either. LwL said he wasn't aware of the negociations, and found that somewhat uncool. He said they had not answered yet to the mails, it being the night etc, but they should probably do so, since he found fighting over news releases on websites isn't the best way to deal with it. He found Cedrix's statement a bit harsh. They ARE planning to send Stephano to IPL3 and MLG Orlando at least, and Stephano plans on going for a short while in Korea. This is not exactly what you said... | ||
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